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guido19 posted 01-19-2005 06:43 PM ET (US)   Profile for guido19   Send Email to guido19  
Do the fish boxes on the 21-foot Outrage drain while under way without water coming in? Or, do you just use a pump to get the water out? Thanks, JC
fno posted 01-20-2005 08:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
They usually do [drain while under way without water coming in]. On my 2004 210 they do. They will fill up at rest and then drain out while under way.
tully_mars posted 01-20-2005 01:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for tully_mars  Send Email to tully_mars     
They would drain while underway in my 1996 21 Outrage.

Capt. Tully Mars

Poppy posted 01-18-2006 03:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Poppy  Send Email to Poppy     
I have a 20 Outrage and my fish boxes fill up at rest, too. I don't want that [unrecognized] as the constant in/outflow of sea water quickly melts my ice and kinda defeats the purpose of having an 'insulated' fish box.

Why don't they drain overboard at rest? Do I need pumps?

rtk posted 01-18-2006 09:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for rtk  Send Email to rtk     
I have a 1997 21 Outrage. Same as everyone else- if you leave the hull plug out on the fishbox they fill up at rest and drain while underway.

They fill up when you wash the boat or it rains. They always seem to have water in them.

I do have the factory fish box pump out system. The problem is the drains located at the aft vertical wall of the box are about a good inch or so above the bottom of the box. So a fair amount of water is left in the box that will not pump out. If you run the boat at a very bow high attitude, the pumps are more effective in draining the water.

If you want to drain them dry you have to pull the plugs and run the boat. While the boat is still on plane, have someone open the fishbox and put the thru hull plug in each box after the water has drained out. Or, keep a little plastic hand pump on board and pump the water out that way at the dock.

This is a project that I hope I have enough time for this winter- making the fishboxes a bit more usable.

I would like to find a thru hull for the fishbox drain that has some type of "check valve" built in that will let water out but not in.

Relocate the electric pump out pickups lower in the box to pick up more water.

I would like to split the deck lids to the fishbox. It's a real long lid that has a habit of closing itself if left open. Not good for toes, fingers and all that stuff.

They are big, just need to make them a bit more functional for easy use and cleaning.

Rich

YorkHarbor posted 01-19-2006 01:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for YorkHarbor  Send Email to YorkHarbor     
On our 2004 210 Outrage we get it on plane and we pull the plugs and let them drain.
Backlash posted 01-19-2006 08:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
My 21' Walkaround has similar fish boxes - with plugs out they fill with water and drain while underway. With plugs in they fill with water when washing or from rain. There was no factory pumpout option.

IMO, the hatches are a very poor design and should have had a lipped edge so water would not drain into the boxes.

To solve this problem I installed Rule 500 Automatic bilge pumps in each box just forward of the thru-hull drain. These are wired to a single Rule OFF-MANUAL-AUTO switch. Normally this switch is left in the OFF position when the boat is on the trailer and in the AUTO position when in the water and washing the boat or expecting rain when overnighting. These pumps cycle on every 2-1/2 minutes and leave only a 1/2" of water in the recessed aft portion of the boxes.

Here is a photo of the installation:
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phatwhaler posted 01-19-2006 09:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
I have a 20 Outrage and I have done the following little mods to my fish boxes.

1. I have put a 3" wide piece of 3M nonskid tape down in the fish box. This helps me walk in the box without busting my arse. Seems like I always need to step down into the thing to clean in.

2. I have extra live well plugs that I put in the scuppers so not as much water gets into the fish box.

I noticed that the later model boats with in deck fish boxes have little stainless struts to hold the lid up. I can't decide if I want to install them though.

phatwhaler out.

handn posted 01-19-2006 10:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for handn  Send Email to handn     
I had a similarly designed fishboxe in my 23 Conquest.
To drain the fish boxes while at the dock, remove the drain plug and stick a hose with a nozzle near the drain. The water in the box will siphon out. When the box is empty quickly replace the plug.

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