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SeaBiscuit posted 01-20-2005 03:33 PM ET (US)   Profile for SeaBiscuit   Send Email to SeaBiscuit  
Recently purchased a '99 23' Outrage with twin 150 fuel injected Yamahas (2000 models). I did some research prior to buying this Whaler (my fourth) but did not discover this web site until today. I am interested in feedback from other owners of this boat, in particular performance, range and fuel economy. My experience so far has been great (with the exception of fuel economy). Ride is good (hard but dry) speed great (50 mph) average fuel consumption high (1.6 mpg)
Thanks in advance for any feedback
SeaBiscuit
where2 posted 01-20-2005 07:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
When you find that the ride is "hard" ease the throttle back some and it will likely become "softer".

Welcome to the club...

Ed Stone posted 01-20-2005 07:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
I am suprised with your fuel burn.in the mid 30's
I am getting 2mpg and more with twin 135's.
I have been out over 60 miles with my 23 and
it only took 70 gallons to top it off.

I like to trim the bow down in the rough stuff
to break the waves with the sharp entry of the
23 Outrage.

Let me know if you have any questions about the
23 and I'll do my best to answer.
Ed Stone

SeaBiscuit posted 01-20-2005 07:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for SeaBiscuit  Send Email to SeaBiscuit     
Ed Stone,
thanks for your reply.
Are your 135s optis ?
I have fished the new boat a few times and have tried trimming it for comfort and fuel burn with motors and trim tabs. I cruise in the 30's as well. I guess I have not found the sweet spot yet, but working on it.
Any ideas on how to increase dry storage on the boat?
Thanks again
Nick
SeaBiscuit

jimh posted 01-27-2005 12:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Moved from another forum. The POST-CLASSIC forum concentrates on discussion of boats first designed after 1990.]
Ed Stone posted 01-28-2005 12:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
Sea biscut,
Sorry about the late reply,
My motors are the 135 opti's with smart gauges.
You are right about limited dry storage.Do you have
the leaning post with cooler?If so there is alot
of dry storage under the seat.Try one of the fish
boxes in the floor.With the plug in most water
should drain in the water channels not into the
fishboxes.

My most fuel efficent speed is right at 30mph.
Thats just over 2mpg.

Ed Stone

aubv posted 01-28-2005 09:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
SeaBiscuit,

We own a 2001 w/225 HP Mercury. I find the range on the boat to be very good. An average of 2.1 MPG on long trips when cruising in the mid 30's is the norm. Top speed is 48MPH(GPS). I've done a trip of 185 miles and used 85 gallons.

Performance- provided the engine is trimmed all the way down the boat gets up on plane very quickly. I don't use the trim tabs very much but do use the motor trim a great deal. When cruising at any speed, on plane, I trim the motor up quite a bit. When doing so you can see the difference it makes in increased RPM, if you go to far you will see the rpm's start to decrease.

As far as dry storage, I removed the port-a-potti from the CC and use a Rubbermaid container to transport items to and from the boat. This includes an insulated bag for things like sandwiches, etc. I simply put it in the CC and get items if/when they are needed. Our boat has the leaning post and we use the under seat storage all of the time. We also have the seat mounted in front of the CC but a smaller cooler mount there would be a good place for additional dry storage. The cooler under the leaning post is used for fish.
Another thought for dry storage, use a Dry Bag. We have one but use it only as a ditch bag.

Best of luck with the boat.

SeaBiscuit posted 01-30-2005 11:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for SeaBiscuit  Send Email to SeaBiscuit     
Thanks for the replies. Since my last post, I have fished two more times. 100 mile trips each time. Being careful about trim and fuel burn, I have averaged 1.75 mpg. I think I can live with that. I am max powered with two strokes thus cannot expect the economy of twin 135 optis or a single 225 four stroke. If I keep the boat for a long time, I think she'd be fantastic with the new 4 cylinder yamaha 150 four strokes.
I continue to be very happy with the boat's performance. Either one of you ever get water inside the console compartment? Any ideas where that may be coming from?
Thanks again
SeaBiscuit
aubv posted 01-31-2005 08:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
SeaBiscuit,

When you ask about the water in the CC, are you talking about ounces or gallons?

The bow storage compartment as well as the rod and cup holders in the bow, drain into the sump in the CC.

SeaBiscuit posted 01-31-2005 04:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for SeaBiscuit  Send Email to SeaBiscuit     
aubv,
I was talking about ounches not gallons. Thanks for the explanation. You are probably right. I have had water (ounches again) under there though on sunny and dry days, which surprised me.
SeaBiscuit
diveorfish posted 02-03-2005 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for diveorfish  Send Email to diveorfish     
SeaBiscuit: I have a 23 Outrage with twin 135’s. I get about 2 mph at 30 mph so 1.75 mph doesn’t sound too bad. (I have 17’ pitch props)

Here are few things I have noticed over time:

Banging hatches: Banging hatches used to be a big pet peeve of mine but I found a solution. I just got some of the sticky sided white weather stripping from Home Depot and taped it down on the edges of fish boxes where the hatch touches leaving some gaps so water can drain. Now, my boat is quiet as a church mouse no matter how rough it gets and makes the ride seem smoother. When the hatches bang, the noise promotes the notion that the boat pounds when it is rough. When the boat is quiet, the boat seems to just swoosh through the head seas and doesn’t seem to be pounding as much.

Ride: My boat, with twins, full of gas and large passengers sitting in the back is very stern heavy. When I am in seas more than two feet, I get the best ride with the motors fully trimmed down as well as the trim tabs down all the way. Trimmed this way, the bow is able to cut though waves and the ride in head seas is very respectable if not better than most. You definitely have to have the trim tabs to get the best ride though.

Dry storage: I get very little water in the console. What little comes in is pumped away by the sump pump at the bottom. I’ve never had a problem with items getting wet. My front fish box also stays very dry as well. It is usually where we put our tackle and bag lunches.

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