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MickP posted 01-30-2005 04:22 PM ET (US)   Profile for MickP   Send Email to MickP  
I am interested in buying a new 170 Montauk. What is a ballpark price for a basic package boat motor and trailer? I live in Ohio. I appreciate any and all comments.
Thanks Mick P
soup posted 01-30-2005 04:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for soup  Send Email to soup     
In Georgetown, SC, the 170 MONTAUK with a four-stroke 90-HP and trailer will go for about $27,000.
JFM posted 01-30-2005 04:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Mick,

Now is a good time in Ohio. The dealers all still offering the "Boat Show" pricing. You should be able to pick up a 170 Montauk with a 90-HP two-stroke and trailer for under $22,000.00.

Regards, Jay

POPEYE176 posted 01-30-2005 04:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for POPEYE176  Send Email to POPEYE176     
I was at the Los Angeles boat show 1-29-05. 170 Montauk with 90-HP four=stroke Mercury, trailer, $23,900. Mark
jimh posted 01-30-2005 08:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I don't know who is selling Boston Whaler boats in Ohio these days. There was a long-time Boston Whaler dealer in northwest Ohio who had some financial and legal problems. I don't know if they are still a Boston Whaler dealer, if they're a dealer at all.

As a general policy you will find that Whaler dealers are not encouraged to try to steal customers from another dealer's "territory." The Whaler notion is you buy the boat from your local dealer and he gives you good serivce. Of course, it doesn't always work out that way. The local deal could be a crook--which is what happened in Ohio more or less--or you and he might not be on speaking terms from something in the past. So you can buy the boat down the road a ways, if necessary.

You can get the MSRP for the boat from the Whaler website. To that price you will have to figure the freight, and the cost of any dealer supplied accessories. Then the dealer will throw in a few things--life jackets or fenders.

The fellows couldn't really help you out with a consistent price because you didn't really give enough information. I'd go to the Whaler website, use their nice web interface and build a boat with the options you like, and come up with a total package MSRP. Go to a dealer or a boat show with that figure,
and see what a salesman can do.

By the way, Boston Whaler has somewhat "official" boat show prices--at least they did last year--and you can find out what these are. It is not like each dealer gets to cook up his own boat show special. The factory usually has a plan with certain incentives.

The 170 MONTAUK is still a very popular model, and I don't think there will be huge fire-sale pricing on them, so don't be surprised if the quoted price is not too far off list. The MSRP is really a rather aggressive price to begin with.

[I moved this from another forum because you probably didn't understand that this POST-CLASSIC forum is here to concentrate the discussion on the newer boats.]

JFM posted 01-30-2005 08:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
These guys have been selling Whalers since at least 1964. I know this for a fact as Jamie’s 1964 Nauset has one of their original brass name plates affixed to the console.
http://www.flerlage.com/aboutus.html

Regards, Jay

Joe Kriz posted 01-30-2005 09:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
I bought a used Whaler from Flerlage and had it shipped to California.
They were very pleasant to deal with and the transaction went very smoothly over the phone.

The Whaler was just as they described and exactly what their photos showed. This is the Whaler I purchased from them which was still under warranty at the time.

http://users.sisqtel.net/jkriz/Outrage17/outrage17.html

I thought this was the boat I wanted to keep but found that I prefer the Classics...

Moe posted 01-30-2005 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
According to the Whaler dealer locator, it appears the dealer in the Port Clinton/Sandusky area is now Clemons Boats. http://www.clemonsboats.com/

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Moe

prj posted 01-31-2005 09:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for prj  Send Email to prj     
According to several posters who have commented
on 170 Montauks that people were offering for sale
in the Marketplace section in the mid twenty-thousand range,
you can buy these boats all day long at $17,995.

Where are these armchair purchasers now?
Chime in folks.

Moe posted 01-31-2005 11:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
If you can find a stripped one with carbed two-stroke on the floor, or a dealer who will order a stripped one for you, you can probably still buy it for $17,999 given the $18,672 nationally advertised selling price. That's plus probably $500 or so shipping and/or dealer prep, $631 for trailer brakes if bought in Ohio, and 7% or more state sales tax (typical for Ohio), putting it close to $20,500 out the door.

Of course, the option to buy it with the dirty motor probably goes away next year, and the 4-stroke is another $3,000, even if including sales tax in that. Not sure about the OptiMax premium.

And buying off the floor usually will include $2,300 for the swim platform, bow cushion, fishing package, and bimini, if not the new $1,200 electronics package or $800 stereo.

With everything, maybe $28,000 out the door, or $10,000 more than $17,999.
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Moe

prj posted 01-31-2005 12:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for prj  Send Email to prj     
Agreed Moe.

That's why I strongly believed that the critical commentary
regarding middle 20's asking price for slightly used,
FULLY outfitted with 115 EFI 4 strokes 170 Montauks,
was way out of line and unreasonable.

JoJo posted 01-31-2005 12:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoJo  Send Email to JoJo     
As of January 31, 2005, the Boston Whaler Dealer in Northern Ohio is/are: Clemons Boat, Inc. 8009 Barret Road, Sandusky, Ohio 44870 800.686.5365.
DBOutrage17 posted 01-31-2005 01:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for DBOutrage17  Send Email to DBOutrage17     
Joe Kriz-

Is that some sort of optical illusion on the bimini top on the Outrage 17? How did that thing go up, it looks like it is blocked by the bow rail?

Just curious.

kingfish posted 01-31-2005 02:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
DBOutrage17 - Good eyes!

Joe - inquiring minds want to know - how do that work?

John

bigjohn1 posted 02-03-2005 08:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigjohn1  Send Email to bigjohn1     
PRJ, I agree with all your observations stated above. I think the folks who made those comments (especially about Ray's "Tabasco" boat recently for sale) were out on "cloud 9".
Big John
Joe Kriz posted 02-03-2005 11:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
DB and Kingfish,

Both of you have great vision...

Yes, I mounted that way because of the way the new style hulls are designed. The only other option is to leave the top in the upright position, either in the boot or extended, or, folding it to the rear in the down position.

I don't use a Sun Top that often, so, I had quick releases on the gunwale mounts and just moved the top, over and out in front of the bow rail, just like the 90's Montauks. This way the top was out of the way until I needed it. It only took about a minute longer to put the top up and it way very easy.

If the top was down and resting in the rear, it would cover the rear quarter seats and the fishing station that I had. Couldn't stand that... It was much too much in the way back there.

The only other way was to leave it at home... Then, I wouldn't have a top if I needed it for rain or whatever...

20/20

PFSQUAN posted 02-03-2005 03:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for PFSQUAN  Send Email to PFSQUAN     
At the Atlantic City Boat Show running now through Sunday, there is a 170 Montauk with a 90-hp two-stroke Mercury outboard and trailer (and no frills) priced at $19,999. And the more I look at it, the more I like it. In fact, it made me rush home and peer under the winter cover of my 1985 Montauk. I still like this one, too. Peter
kingfish posted 02-03-2005 03:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Thanks Joe-

Thought there for a minute you had figured out a way to manipulate the space-time continuum or something like that...

baybug posted 02-03-2005 10:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for baybug  Send Email to baybug     
Cleveland Boat Show - $19,600 offered by Clemons with the 90 2-stroke saltwater, trailer, and fishing package. Pretty good deal if you ask me. As Jim said, the old Whaler dealer in Catawba had some "legal issues" and isn't around anymore. I'm not sure if Marine Max is carrying the Whaler line out of Cleveland or not but they weren't at the boat show - as a whaler dealer. Last Sept I stopped in their shop in the Flats and they were really trying to deal their inventory and indicated that they were expecting to pick up the Key West line.


That's what I picked up for the N. Ohio area.

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