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BLUEWATERHUNTER posted 02-10-2005 01:37 PM ET (US)   Profile for BLUEWATERHUNTER   Send Email to BLUEWATERHUNTER  
Guys
I am looking for my first whaler, have a friend who has a
1998 20' outrage , with a 200 hp johnson , and its asking 14,000 for it,
Its got no trailer, and the fuel tank is leaking,dont know whats the resale value of this particula model/year ,how it handles, ect, will test the boat in the water soon.

please, any advice would be greatly apreciated.

Robert

skred posted 02-10-2005 01:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for skred  Send Email to skred     
Your first reference might be www.boattraderonline.com
plug in the specs, and see what shows up...
Jerry Townsend posted 02-10-2005 03:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
BlueWater*** -- Welcome to the site.

First Whaler ? - I would have a thorough review by a reputable marine surveyer. Have a reputable marine mechanic check the engine over. Get a signed statement from each of these regarding their findings. In your case, I would suspect that there might be a lot of hours on that boat and engine. ----- Jerry/Idaho

BLUEWATERHUNTER posted 02-10-2005 07:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for BLUEWATERHUNTER  Send Email to BLUEWATERHUNTER     
I have read everything here on the whaler forums,and is just incredible how many of you are real experts on most of this boats.
I am a mechanic, not of boats, but cars, I will take compression on the cilinders, and do the regular check up, but there is no way I can find anywere else, the knowledge you guys have.
I have already check on boattrader.com, and the one my friend have looks like a good buy, and Jerry , you seems to think is too good to be true, so maybe you are right.
But all the older whalers have many hours on hem, and they are still running strong.
I have no idea what you guys think about the price on this one, or if the tank problem is a regular one on this model, or what else I might expect from it.
I was looking at the olders 18' outrage, 1981-1991, because I like the fact that they are light and can handle better the waves than the Montauk or earlier models, but this one seems to be a much better buy, since the older 18 in price is more or less the same.
Robert
Robert
phatwhaler posted 02-10-2005 08:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
BWH,

I have basically the same boat you are looking at and I think it's a fine boat. $14,000 (depending on condition and options) could be a good buy. How do you know the fuel tank is leaking? It may just be a leaking hose or fuel sending unit etc... The tank can be removed from the boat by removing the console and the deck. Based on what I see on the boat trader most 1998's go for well over $20K.

phatwhaler out.

Jerry Townsend posted 02-10-2005 11:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Robert - I was not implying that the price was too good to be true. There is no way I am going to comment on the price of something I have not seen and evaluated.

I thought that from your questions that you were unfamiliar with boats and engines. But, your being a mechanic, check the compression on all cylinders and check those numbers against the specifications. The compression should be relatively the same on all cylinders. Check for shifting problems in the lower unit - check the grease in the lower unit - et.al. ----- Jerry/Idaho

Royce posted 02-11-2005 06:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royce  Send Email to Royce     
BWH-- I owned the same boat for a year and fished in the Pacific off of SF. There is no way that the tank should be leaking-- I agree that you should first check hoses and their connections. The boat needs trim tabs as it tends to porpoise. The boat is very seaworthy--but watch that the bilge pump is working properly as the deck scuppers tend to leak water back in and ends up in the bilge. My boat was a 1996 with under 100 hrs. on it. During the course of the year I re-powered it with a new Yamaha 2000 HPDI, installed SeaStar steering, and had a custom T-top made. It was near perfect condition when I sold it. I got $32,000 from the first person to see it (he had seen others and had been in the market for a while). Condition dictates what it is worth. If that boat was advertised in Calif. for $14,000. I would have a look. I sold mine when I decided that I really like the classic whalers better. My 1985 Outrage Cuddy 25' is a far superior handling boat and my 1988 Outrage 18'is a much smaller boat and will be harder on you in choppy seas. If you would like to see a photo of the classic 18' parked next to the 1996 Outrage 20' I can email one to you.

Royce

Royce posted 02-12-2005 12:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royce  Send Email to Royce     
BWT- I received your e-mail and tried to send photos, but my emails came back as undeliverable.--

Royce

BLUEWATERHUNTER posted 02-12-2005 05:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for BLUEWATERHUNTER  Send Email to BLUEWATERHUNTER     
Royce, sorry about that, I received too many fish pics this weekend, email was full.
You can use this other one:
roberto.apneapre@gmail.com
I know the old 18 outrage had a 63 gallon tank, the 1998 20 outrage has a 93 tank, but is 93 enough for a 200hp engine, long trips offshore?

Robert

David Thomas posted 02-16-2005 01:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Thomas  Send Email to David Thomas     
You are looking at a great model. I own a 1998 20 outrage with 175 Merc EFI. I have been in all type of seas and find it very solid. Our family loves this boat and the size serves many needs. This boat retailed over $50,000 new and I consistantly see them offered between $20-$30,000. It could be drier, and shorter for garage storage. The center console is enormous and provides great electronic space and storage. I also find the pedestal seats comfortable and versitle.
Swellmonster posted 02-26-2005 11:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Swellmonster  Send Email to Swellmonster     
Bluewater,

FWIW, the 20 brochure for that year says 87 gallon fuel tank.

I have one and absolutely love it! The more I use it, the more I appreciate it. The size is just right!

BLUEWATERHUNTER posted 02-27-2005 07:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for BLUEWATERHUNTER  Send Email to BLUEWATERHUNTER     
Swellmonster
You are correct, I saw the tank specifications on top of it, is 87 gallons.
Thanks
Robert
BLUEWATERHUNTER posted 03-16-2005 10:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for BLUEWATERHUNTER  Send Email to BLUEWATERHUNTER     
Ok Guys, I got the boat today, it feels great.
Just wanted to thank everybody for their time and knowledge, pics and everything else, this list rocks.

Robert
San Juan
Puerto Rico

Sheila posted 03-16-2005 11:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sheila  Send Email to Sheila     
Congratulations, Robert! Enjoy her for a long, long time.

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