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MickP posted 02-20-2005 03:34 PM ET (US)   Profile for MickP   Send Email to MickP  
For the people who bought a new 170 Montauk with the two stroke engine do you have any regrets of not going with the four stroke.
Jimm posted 02-20-2005 03:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jimm    
Nope, not at all. Noisy compared to 4 stroke but it sure is a proven engine that will last nearly forever with just a little maintainence. The big plus for me was the $2000 plus savings. We'll have to wait and see how resale value affects it though.
MantyMonty posted 02-20-2005 06:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for MantyMonty  Send Email to MantyMonty     
At first I had second thoughts, now, no way. I am going to put on a nice four stroke kicker in spring, and I won't be over the transom weight limit. I confirmed this with Chuck Bennett at BW. This little motor will be my salmon trolling motor and my get home safe insurance policy, seeing as though we don't have a service like Boat US here. Starts fine, easy maintenance, no filters etc. I also like the quickness it has from zero to mashing the throttle. You won't regret. Don't worry about high tech. They are far from foolproof too. Have a good day!
Divedog posted 02-20-2005 09:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Divedog  Send Email to Divedog     
I agree with the other two posts. I have no regrets with the 2 stroke and plan to put on a kicker motor for trolling. I can pull the kicker off when I go water skiing and have a much more responsive throttle. I see it as the best of both worlds.
Rich M posted 02-20-2005 11:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rich M  Send Email to Rich M     
No regrets here. Great hole shot (very quick to plane), no need for a stainless steel prop, lighter weight, slightly less maintenece and substantially less money.

Of course it's smokey and a bit louder, but as they say "boat building is a series of compromises".

Whalen posted 02-21-2005 09:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalen    
I was so poor when I bought mine that I had to go with the two stroke. I had a major windfall and tried to get back to the four stroke (was 4 stroke from factory). Dealer said there was no way he was going back into the shop and asking the guys to put the four stroke back on. I was bummed. Any way I have been glad I got stuck with the two sroke. Great hole shot, easy to start, not that loud, and easy to maintain. I just wish it was an E-Tec 90 now. It will be someday!
BigMoney posted 08-14-2005 07:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for BigMoney  Send Email to BigMoney     
I have to agree. I love my Merc 2-stroke. At 90 HP, the extra fuel efficiency of the 4-stroke over the 2-stroke is pretty minimal... I use my boat a lot, but it would have taken several years for the savings in fuel to equal the extra price of the motor.......
fishinchips posted 08-14-2005 07:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for fishinchips  Send Email to fishinchips     
I own the 90hp 4 stroke and I tell you, the 4 stroke doesn't have the PUNCH that the 2 strokes have.
I sure do miss the PUNCH !

Ken

gorji posted 08-14-2005 09:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for gorji  Send Email to gorji     
I love the responses.
I have a 2 stroke and have had NO Problems in 110 engine hours over 4 years/

I am planning on changing to synthetic oil next year.

erik selis posted 08-15-2005 02:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
I like my 2-stroke Mercury as well. In the beginning I had some problems with her but once they were solved, and once I found a good mechanic to fine-tune her, it became a mighty fine engine. The hole shot on the 170 Montauk is amazing. Fuel consumption seems to be great if you stick to around the 4000 rpm mark. All in all a great, powerful engine. I'm glad I didn't spend the extra money on the carburetted 4-stroke. Although I like Mercury engines I think the next one for this boat will again be a 2-stroke. (though it will be hard to wear down this Merc to the point I will need to repower)

Erik

jmontani posted 08-15-2005 11:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for jmontani    
Just bought my Montauk on a '05 close out.

I will need to look at my notes, but the 4 stroke was going to take something like 7 years to make up the additional cost through fuel savings. Similar to BigMoney's post.

Given the price of my package vs. other dealers across the country and the dealer getting out of new boat sales, the 4 stroke was not a realistic option for me.

During the sea trial the engine would not get the right rpm for wide open. It was down in the mid to upper 4000 on the rpm.

The dealer traded out the prop for the Laser II Stainless at no charge. Went back this weekend and that made all the difference. I don't know the story with the original prop but the new one sure worked well. 5400rpm at wide open was pushing me at 42mph with a head wind.

The part number is 48-16990A46 this is a LaserII 13 1/4 x 20 pitch. Thank you MantyMonty for the information!!

All that being said, at this point I have no regrets.

Also, here is the link to the discussion on prop choice...

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001940.html

Just my thoughts.


whalerdude posted 08-22-2005 06:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerdude  Send Email to whalerdude     
Just got my 4 stroke EFI montauk last week.

I love the quiet engine, turn key starting, and NO SMOKE!!

That is really great!

I do miss however the throttle response both accelerating and DECELERATING of the 2 stroke. It is going to take me a while to adjust to this!

Also, docking I am having trouble which I never had before.
It's either because its a Merc ( I have had Yamahas on the last 3 boats) or because it's a 4 stroke.

It's hard to tell what gear I'm in while docking and it's hard to add little squirts of power when your docking going forward and backward. This is where you see the benefits of a two stroke.

Overall I still would take the 4 stroke. Its fun to experience the new and more modern technology.

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