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Holy Cow posted 03-11-2005 03:41 PM ET (US)   Profile for Holy Cow   Send Email to Holy Cow  
Does the new Brunswick 1998 Haul with a 1998 200hp Yamaha factory Rebuilt Power Head with 3 year warranty have any advantages over a pre 1998 21 ft Outrages?

The Pre 1998 models I am looking at are 1994, 1996, and 1997. They all have older Johnsons and Evinrudes on them. I believe the 1997 has a 225 hp OMC with 400 hrs, the 1994 has a 200 hp Yamaha with 871 hours, and the 1996 has a 200 Evinrude Ocean Runner rebuilt in 2004 with a few hours. The 1998, 1997, 1996 and 1994 all have custom leaning posts and rig stations for bait and fish packages.

Is the 1998 or the pre 1998 a better Haul? Thank you to all proud Whalerman. HC

gf posted 03-11-2005 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for gf  Send Email to gf     

I'm afraid I don't know what the Haul you are talking about!
Holy Cow posted 03-11-2005 10:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Holy Cow  Send Email to Holy Cow     
Its the '98 and newer Euro compared to the pre 98 like the 97 and 96 Hauls!
Holy Cow posted 03-12-2005 12:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Holy Cow  Send Email to Holy Cow     
OpppS I Should have said "HULL!"
Looking for the better one? Is it the 1998 or the 1996/7?
What Hull-form proves to be extremely stable in a following sea!
andygere posted 03-12-2005 12:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
tully_mars posted 03-12-2005 07:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for tully_mars  Send Email to tully_mars     
Can't comment on the the 98's other than they have less room than the earlier models you have referred. Though I can say being a former owner of a 1996 21 Outrage that it is a great boat and very sea worthy. Rides great, very dry, lot of range, and lot of space with the two deck boxes and large front deck box.

Capt. Tully Mars

Holy Cow posted 03-12-2005 09:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Holy Cow  Send Email to Holy Cow     
Thanks Tully_Mars:

What do you feel about a new Power Head 200 hp Yamaha Salt Water Series II on the back transon of that 1998 fish mobile?
I assume a 225 hp Johnson was the origial motor.
Why was there less space on the 1998 last year? Was it that a larger console was installed?
After six years I assume that many of the issues I read about on an on line report were corrected. Thanks HC

tully_mars posted 03-15-2005 01:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for tully_mars  Send Email to tully_mars     
Just a little less room because of the Euro Transom, but not a big deal. The 21 Outrages with the head in the console really are the ones that eat up the room in the boat.

I think a 200 would be fine on the boat. Mine was powered with an Evinrude 225hp and it would run 48mph, a 200 wouldn't run much less if any at all. From the drawings on the console on the 98 seems to be the same console I had on my 96 model.

I think it would be a fine boat.

Capt. Tully Mars

Holy Cow posted 03-15-2005 05:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Holy Cow  Send Email to Holy Cow     
Capt. Tuly Mars:

I have a Purchase Agreement on the 1998 and am waiting on a Sea Trail and history of the Yamaha 200 rebuild! I was told the rebuild is a new Yamaha Power head from factory, but the work was done by a Florida Marine shop? I will have to look them up and ask for their creditials. I am waiting on documents, receipts, and history. A dual axle Continental with I believe four 14 C tires/wheels come with the Boat. It has a capacity of 5000lbs. Does that seem like it will do it? I have a list of equipment, titles, and insurances I am going to put into place before I tow her back to Delaware. 1200 miles. I will check the bearings and make sure Buddys are on the trailer too. I am told she comes with brakes. Thank you Captain. HC

tully_mars posted 03-15-2005 11:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for tully_mars  Send Email to tully_mars     
I hope it works out for you. On trailer weight you should be ok. Motor: 500lbs. Boat: 2600lbs Fuel: up to 900. This is under the 5000 so should be ok unless you fill the boat up with a ton of stuff. The power head if new ought to not have signs of corrosion or scuffed bolts if new. Regardless, I have a friend running a rebuilt 1992 250 Yamaha and is not having any problems.

Best of luck,

Capt. Tully Mars

6992WHALER posted 03-15-2005 11:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for 6992WHALER  Send Email to 6992WHALER     
If I were you I would have the old owner have the bearings repacked before you get there. Find out if the trailer has a spare tire. Nothing like trying to find a tire when your stuck on the side of the road. Don't forget the lug wench. A lot of Boat owners don't care about the trailer. I bought a used boat last summer on the east coast and brought it back to MN. I knew I should have had the seller do the bearings but things happened to fast. I made it 50 miles, had to replace two hubs and all four sets of bearings on a two year old trailer.
I had to spend two days sitting in a hotel waiting to get the parts.

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