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SeaBiscuit posted 03-22-2005 11:52 PM ET (US)   Profile for SeaBiscuit   Send Email to SeaBiscuit  
This will sound strange to most, but I am hoping will ring a bell to someone. I own a 1999 23 foot Outrage. No paint on bottom. Recently noticed slight gellcoat stress cracks in hull bottom. It appears that a viscous red tinted liquid leaks out of such cracks running down the bottom V for several inches in places. This material is crytaline to the touch (like wet sugar) and smells slightly acidic.
Has anyone noticed any similar cracks (I expect the answer would be yes) and especially any similar reddish discharge like the one I described coming from such cracks? If yes, any ideas or expert oppinions ?
Thank you much
Nick (SeaBiscuit)
SeaBiscuit posted 03-22-2005 11:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for SeaBiscuit  Send Email to SeaBiscuit     
I forgot to mention the boat has always been kept on trailer, never in the water. Has not been launched in a couple of weeks, possibly giving this event time to develop.
Nick
Speedo66 posted 03-23-2005 07:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for Speedo66  Send Email to Speedo66     
Any chance it could be hydraulic fluid from either a power steering unit or tilt and trim unit that ran down to where you found it?

Maybe gritiness is dirt or sand picked up along the way?

jimh posted 03-23-2005 07:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
You can get a reddish brown discharge from soft or rotting wood. The acidic nature is probably added by some uncured resin.
bsmotril posted 03-23-2005 10:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
I would suspect a void in the laminate which is more common along the strakes where it is common to fill them with putty behind the gelcoat. Because the gelcoat is brittle and not bonded well to the substrate, it cracks there. Water gets in, and you get a reaction like that with bottom blisters. The oozing liquid is the end resultof that reaction. I had this problem with an older Searay Laguna I used to own. When they started grinding off the gelcoat, the void was obvious, and it extended well beyond the length of the 20" crack visible on the outside of the hull. It was an obvious hull defect, and the dealer fixed it with no long term damage or negative results from the repair. Since Whaler has a 10yr hull warranty, I'd take it to the dealer for repair. Suggest you take a set of pictures as detailed as possible before the dealer gets it should you later need to escalate your case with Whaler for resolution.
BillS
SeaBiscuit posted 03-23-2005 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for SeaBiscuit  Send Email to SeaBiscuit     
Thank you for the timely replies.

speedo,
no chance it could be hydraulic fluid. Leaks directly at the cracks near front bottom of boat.

jimh,
I was afraid it looked some like rotting wood disscharge.

bsmotril,
I think you may be right on. All cracks (they are hairline size mind you) appear to relate to the lower left side strake, just forward of the trailer bunk. I would guess this is an area of major stress when loading the boat onto the trailer? No similar issues on right side strakes. I also appreciate the advise re: documenting the damage evidence. I would hate to find myself in a contentious situation with Whaler or their local dealer. Avoiding such conflicts is a big part of my decision to always try to buy the best (this is my fourth whaler)

Please keep potential feedback coming and I will updtae on resolution.

Thank you
SeaBiscuit

prj posted 03-24-2005 09:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for prj  Send Email to prj     
SeaBiscuit:

I believe this very condition, or one similar with
a reddish discharge, occurred on a 170 Montauk
and was discussed within the last year or so.

If I recall correctly, it was on or near the transom.

I wish I could help with some key search words
to uncover the previous thread, but alas, no idea
what it was posted under.

I do recall that there were some confident responses
on both the make-up of the discharge and the reasons for it.

Good luck and
GO UW-Milwaukee PANTHERS!

AQUANUT posted 03-24-2005 10:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
I am with jimh,
doesn't sound good
terry

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