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GuyNole posted 03-27-2005 05:52 PM ET (US)   Profile for GuyNole   Send Email to GuyNole  
I would appreciate any experience on this make/model, a Boston Whaler CONQUEST 21.

Last night I looked briefly at a 1998 model for sale. It looks to be in very good condition and lightly used. I want to move up to a bigger, more family friendly boat.

See:

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/0/78594700.htm

Thanks in advance for you help and advise.

Guy

jimh posted 03-27-2005 08:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Well, we all think that Boston Whaler is a great make, so you probably won't hear any negatives on that question. As for the Conquest 21 model, there has been a limited amount of previous discussion:

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001176.html
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001191.html
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000653.html

I went through quite a few search results and only found those links.

The 21-foot Conquest certainly will be easier to trailer on the highway than the larger Conquest models. Some of those boats are really huge on a trailer. The larger cabin boats from Whaler in the Conquest line really need a very heavy duty truck to tow them, at least a 3/4-ton rating. This smaller Conquest 21 should be able to be hauled around with a 1/2-ton truck. If you plan on keeping the boat on the trailer, that can be a consideration.

I think that boat is well rigged with a 200-HP Mercury EFI. That is a good engine. Buying a used boat is all about condition, condition, condition. Only you can see it up close. At the asking price it should be in A-1 shape.

I think the cabin boat appeals to many "family" members, but I would caution on one point: if your family are not dyed-in-the-wool boaters, get the boat you want, not the boat they want. Often the interest of the "family" in a boat wanes after a season or two, and then you'll be the main (or only) user. So get a boat you want, too.

You gave no information about your prospective use of the boat, so it is hard to know what areas of use you would be interested in hearing about.

GuyNole posted 03-28-2005 09:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for GuyNole  Send Email to GuyNole     
Jim, thank you for the links and your thought on providing more background. Let me give everyone the 411 on how I use my current 2000 Montauk and why I think I need a bigger Whaler.

I do most of my boating in the Orlando/Titusville, Central Florida area. Mostly in the ICW, Indian River area, but also in the St. Johns River and area lakes. We take a couple family vacation trips a year and have been taking my 2000 Montauk, one trip to the keys and one to the North Georgia Mountains. One these trips, we keep the boat at marinas and fish and play between everything else we do on these summer vacations. I have always keep the Montauk in my garage, so the bigger boat will require some sort a storage.

The bigger boat is about (hopefully) doing all these things, depending on trailering, it might get left at home for the mountains trip, and adding in some ICW, St. Johns River cruising with the wife who likes seats, storage and a way to get out of the weather/sun. Along with my wonderful wife, I have two growing boys, 10 and 13. Increasingly, when my boys go “boating with Dad”, they want to bring a pal along, which if fine. This kind of outing might be to fish or play and 4 or 5 in a Montauk is a little too chummy. I have very little offshore experience, but also want to start learning to fish near-shore and off-shore in the Port Canaveral and area. That said, I love my Montauk and want to make sure I get a Whaler that is it’s equal in quality, but better suites my crew. I think your suggestion to “get what you want” is right on, and trust me I will. That said, I want to have as much “family boating fun” as I can before the boys get grown and gone.


That about sums up my current boat use and future plans. Hope this helps with the thoughts on the 21 Conquest. If anyone has other Whaler suggestions that they think would fill this bill, please feel free.

Thanks again to all for the helping hand.

Guy

dauntlass 18 posted 03-28-2005 10:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for dauntlass 18  Send Email to dauntlass 18     
My 21Conquest has been a totally trouble free boat.We have owned the boat since the spring of 2001.Our boat has a 200 hp Optimax for power, again no problems with the motorWe tow the boat with a old Dodge 1/2 ton pick with good results.I bought the 21 over the 23 Conquest because I felt the 23 was too large to tow on a regular basis.Ck one out with a factory hardtop it really gives the boat a nice look.
GuyNole posted 03-31-2005 06:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for GuyNole  Send Email to GuyNole     
I really could use some thought on the 21 in the link above....

Thanks...

phatwhaler posted 03-31-2005 08:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
Here's my random thoughts,

1. Your gonna use way more fuel than you do in the Montauk.
2. The 200 EFI 2.5L Merc is basically one of the best engines ever made. Basically the small block Chevy of outboards.
3. The 21 Conquest shouldn't porpoise too bad with the weight of the console up front. In comparison to a 21 Outrage which really needs trim tabs.
4. That is more boat than a new 205 Eastport for half the price of a new boat.
5. I didn't notice a bimini top, your gonna need some shade.
6. The galvanized trailer is no selling point.
7. How "in" to boating is your wife? I see a lot of guys buy family boats, then the wife doesn't end up doing all that much more boating. I'm a firm believer that if the wife hardly ever boats then get what you and boys will use.
8. Would you let the boys use the Montauk when they get older. Because the 21 is a little big for a kid to use.
9. Your gonna need a decent sized truck. All gassed up with four people with you is gonna put your weight at over 5000 pounds boat/motor/gas/gear/crew.

phatwhaler out.

phatwhaler posted 03-31-2005 08:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
ps: I'm a proud graduate of Jackson Heights Middle school.

later

ivansfo posted 03-31-2005 08:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for ivansfo  Send Email to ivansfo     
Before I bought my 23 Conquest, I looked at a 21 footer. It's about the ideal size boat I'm comfortable towing and priced much cheaper than a 23. However, what killed the idea was how little cockpit space the 21 Conquest has to offer for a boat it's size. For fishing, it seems you can fit no more than 2 people back there.

My only reason to buy the boat was for fishing with friends and family so I chose the 23 for the extra cockpit space. How about something like a 21 Outrage? That would offer much more room for 4-5 people.

Ivan

HawaiianWhaler posted 04-03-2005 10:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for HawaiianWhaler  Send Email to HawaiianWhaler     
The boat in the ad looks very clean. It has a bimini stowed ahead of the windshield and the optional bait cutting table with additional rod holders in the center of the motor well rail, and the add mentions a 20 gallon water tank and a porta-potti, all of which add value to the basic boat. One discrepancy in the add is that the claimed length is 21'6" if I read it correctly, whereas the actual length specified by Whaler (without the anchor pulpit which this boat doesn't seem to have) is 20'7". The 200 hp outboard is plenty and should give good performance.

My own 1999 Conquest 21 has been troublefree and almost everything I could want. I've had the rated 10 people on it for a short trip inside our local bay and been able to get it up on plane with a Honda 130 at rated rpm (took a while though). We don't run at WOT much outside of the bay because the water is normally too rough, so the 130 hp is more than adequate. Mostly we troll with 2 or 3 on board and there's plenty of cockpit space in my opinion for running a Chinese fire drill when fish are on. The cockpit only begins to get crowded when we have the 7' fish bag out and 'occupied' or maybe have a marlin laying on the deck. The ride is good in our normally rough Hawaiian water at trolling speed. The family loves spending nights anchored at the local sand bar and there's plenty of space for the 3 of us. The instrument panel is small so I use combination electronics and remote mic-controlled radios. The only minor complaint I have is that the euro transom makes for difficult access to the batteries under the motor well.

If that boat in the ad had a 4-stroke outboard on it and was located about 5000 miles further west, I'd buy it if I didn't already have one.

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