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HuronBob posted 06-05-2005 03:41 PM ET (US)   Profile for HuronBob  
We never used the ladder last summer (we use the pontoon when we're swimming), but today I decided to try it out. I was very disappointed when the first time I tried to board the boat using the ladder it pulled the screws out of one side of the mounting bracket. I'm not exactly thin, but at 180 lbs I felt it ought to hold my weight.

I took the boat back to my lift to inspect this. the two bolts on the left hand side of the ladder would not tighten.

In order to get my boat on a trailer I have a 1/2 hour trip to the boat launch. Being unwilling to go that far with no screws in these holes under the waterline, I decided the best bet was to remove the ladder and fill the holes with Marine Silicone Sealant. While removing the two bolts on the right hand side I discovered that the top one was a machine bolt (as were both of the bolts on the left), but the bottom is a wood screw.

All in all, I'm disappointed that the mounting for this ladder is so poor. I'm also suspecting that the wood screw indicates that the installation was incorrect to begin with?

Has anyone had any experience with this happening, and what repair is necessary?

Thanks in advance for any help with this.

Bob

bigjohn1 posted 06-06-2005 09:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigjohn1  Send Email to bigjohn1     
Bob, very sorry to hear of your problems. The ladder on my 170 is all screws into the hull (no bolts). I weigh 225 and use it from time to time when taking a dip on really hot days. It has been very sturdy and secure thusfar without the slightest sign of fatigue. I wonder if the screws were properly bedded during installation - ? If there is no weight limit stipulated in your manual, I would presume then that this is a warranted item. Good luck!
HuronBob posted 06-06-2005 09:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for HuronBob    
BigJohn, thanks for the input..

I'll add some information to this (now that I've spoken to the dealer, Laughing Gull Marina in Michigan), in case someone runs into this in the future.

According to the dealer all four of the bolts should be the same (he couldn't understand the one wood screw, they should all be machine bolts).

The bolts go through the outer hull into whaler board which has been drilled and tapped, the dealer stated that they work with it like aluminum. They speculated that the hole might have been tapped incorrectly. FYI, he also said that it is very easy to snap off a wood screw while inserting it in the whaler board because it is so hard.

They plan to drill and tap in the same location for a bigger bolt (I'll be curious to see what they find when they drill where the wood screw was), and then drill the mounting holes on the ladder bigger to accommodate the bolt. He also confirmed that I don't need to go on a diet, the mount should have held my weight!

The Boat goes in next week to get the repair, they plan to do it while I wait if they don't run into any unknown issues. So far, I'm impressed by the response.

If there is any additional info to add to this after the repair, I'll update this thread.

Bob

Royboy posted 06-07-2005 09:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Bob, which side is your ladder mounted on? Silly question, I know, but for reasons unknown to me, BW decided some time after they made my boat that 130 owners might want a way to get back into their boats from the water. They therefore thought it would be good to put some Whalerboard into the port side ONLY of the transom for this purpose. Unfortunately, unless one refers to the wood locating diagram AND notes the change column, a ladder could be installed where there is nothing to hold it.

Roy

HuronBob posted 06-07-2005 09:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for HuronBob    
Roy...thanks for the response.. the factory mounted ladder is on the port side, as you mentioned....

Bob

chopbuster posted 06-10-2005 08:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for chopbuster  Send Email to chopbuster     
HuronBob:

Be wary of your dealer's quizzical response. My dealer has told me that certain options on a 170 are installed by some DEALERS, not the BW factory, to upgrade the package.

Tom

HuronBob posted 06-11-2005 02:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for HuronBob    
Tom, thanks.... I'll be interested in what they have to say. Chuck at BW didn't indicate that it was other than a factory installation when he responded to me, but I would guess that it wouldn't have been very professional of him to blame the dealer when talking to a customer (better for him to talk to the dealer directly if it was a quality issue at that end).

Boat goes in tuesday to get the ouchie fixed!

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