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Offset posted 06-14-2005 12:23 AM ET (US)
My wife an I had some family down to the shore house this weekend for a day out on our new 170 Montauk. The girls packed the truck up and headed to the beach while my brother-in-law and I went to the marina and brought her through the canal into the DE. bay and anchored off at our favorite beach. Smooth as could be.We hung out for awhile, till the wind kicked up.Out of the south with the tide going out, time to get home. We decided to all go back in the boat to the marina. 5 TO 6 foot seas against the wind.Alot of chop. My wife had just mentioned she has not been wet at all on this boat. She won't be saying that again. WE were soaked! Got to the canal an everything started to calm down even my wife.I told her it's a Whaler!
TightlinesPE posted 06-14-2005 01:12 PM ET (US)
17ft boat and 5-6 foot seas? I'd be happy to have my boat floating upright than to be wet! 5-6 foot seas are huge for a 17 foot boat and you should be thankful that nothing else worse happened than a good ol' salt down.
How fast were you going?
Offset posted 06-14-2005 01:57 PM ET (US)
The wind blew up pretty quick out of nowhere.WE were doggin along around 3,000 rpm's if that with the weight of four. I did'nt let anyone know but I was a little nervous to say the least, whaler or no whaler. It was only about a mile down to the inlet of the canal. I should have stayed in but like I said it got nasty real fast. I need to keep a better eye on the wind instead of shooting the breeze on the beach.
Bulldog posted 06-15-2005 06:43 AM ET (US)
Rosevelt Inlet into Delaware bay can be fun at times, I know it well. Striper fishing at the mouth of the bay at the eight bouys can be very, unsettling drifting through the rips! You might have been a little scared , but tell us the truth , after a little bit it was fun wasn't it?........Jack
Offset posted 06-15-2005 02:13 PM ET (US)
Thinking about it now I was more nervous for my passengers, more so for my wife. I would'nt want to ruin boating for her. Being in that type of situation will surely do it. Well its four days later and 'm still yapping about it. Yeah your right it was fun...just a little. Bye the way I did'nt mention, I'm on the Jersey side of the bay.
bspencer posted 06-16-2005 11:18 AM ET (US)
Wow, you guys must have really calm waters out there if 5 to 6 foot seas with chop are considered huge for a 170.
Out here in California that is a typical summer afternoon, and my 160 does fantastic in it. Just need to find that "sweet spot" between speed and being wet. Personally, I like speed and getting wet, but thats why the boats name is "Daddy's Prozac" :)
Take care,
Brent
Buckda posted 06-16-2005 12:40 PM ET (US)
Brent - do you mean 5 foot, well timed ocean swells, or 5 foot windblown waves with chop? There is a HUGE difference.
Offset - did you mean windblown waves that reached 5-6 footers? That was the impression that I had.
On the Great Lakes, very rarely do we get gentle 5 foot swells. A truer definition of "waves" on the big lakes is what you would call "chop." Perhaps 5-6 foot chop provides a more accurate picture of the situation in the minds of our West Coast members. We're talking fast moving, very steep 5 foot waves, typically breaking into whitecaps on the top.
I may be the one in the wrong here, but that's the picture I had in my mind from this tale, and believe me - true 5-6 foot chop even in the 18 can make for a long day, especially with a significant other who may not be very comfortable in the water aboard.
For instance, when I said last fall that I was out in 9-11 footers on lake Michigan in November, I meant that the waves were that tall, fast moving, windblown and breaking. That is about "all I want" in my 18. I'd be much more comfortable in 9-12 foot swells if the lake were simply rolling that day (which it rarely does).
Offset posted 06-16-2005 01:44 PM ET (US)
Riding the swell's would have been swell. These babies were breakin, in front, starboard...port...starboard...front, you get the picture. Like I mentioned, I was more concerned for my passengers. Did'nt need anyone tossed over. That would'nt have been a good day.

bspencer posted 06-16-2005 04:07 PM ET (US)
Buckda - No, I'm sorry I meant a 5 foot breaking windwaves. On a typical summer afternoon I'll encounter a 7 to 9 foot swell with 5 foot wind waves mixed in. The swell is not bad at all, but the windwaves catch you at the wrong angle at times.
This is why I just take the wife to inland or protected waters. Or, I take her in the fall when the Ocean is a mill-pond and the weather is at its best.
bigjohn1 posted 06-16-2005 09:06 PM ET (US)
5 foot breaking wind waves would truly not be fun in a 170. We get large well-timed swells quite bit here from distant typhoons and they are no sweat to navigate - actually fun at times but those damn wind waves are a different animal.

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Author	Topic: 170 Montauk, no dry ride today!
Offset	posted 06-14-2005 12:23 AM ET (US) My wife an I had some family down to the shore house this weekend for a day out on our new 170 Montauk. The girls packed the truck up and headed to the beach while my brother-in-law and I went to the marina and brought her through the canal into the DE. bay and anchored off at our favorite beach. Smooth as could be.We hung out for awhile, till the wind kicked up.Out of the south with the tide going out, time to get home. We decided to all go back in the boat to the marina. 5 TO 6 foot seas against the wind.Alot of chop. My wife had just mentioned she has not been wet at all on this boat. She won't be saying that again. WE were soaked! Got to the canal an everything started to calm down even my wife.I told her it's a Whaler!
TightlinesPE	posted 06-14-2005 01:12 PM ET (US) 17ft boat and 5-6 foot seas? I'd be happy to have my boat floating upright than to be wet! 5-6 foot seas are huge for a 17 foot boat and you should be thankful that nothing else worse happened than a good ol' salt down. How fast were you going?
Offset	posted 06-14-2005 01:57 PM ET (US) The wind blew up pretty quick out of nowhere.WE were doggin along around 3,000 rpm's if that with the weight of four. I did'nt let anyone know but I was a little nervous to say the least, whaler or no whaler. It was only about a mile down to the inlet of the canal. I should have stayed in but like I said it got nasty real fast. I need to keep a better eye on the wind instead of shooting the breeze on the beach.
Bulldog	posted 06-15-2005 06:43 AM ET (US) Rosevelt Inlet into Delaware bay can be fun at times, I know it well. Striper fishing at the mouth of the bay at the eight bouys can be very, unsettling drifting through the rips! You might have been a little scared , but tell us the truth , after a little bit it was fun wasn't it?........Jack
Offset	posted 06-15-2005 02:13 PM ET (US) Thinking about it now I was more nervous for my passengers, more so for my wife. I would'nt want to ruin boating for her. Being in that type of situation will surely do it. Well its four days later and 'm still yapping about it. Yeah your right it was fun...just a little. Bye the way I did'nt mention, I'm on the Jersey side of the bay.
bspencer	posted 06-16-2005 11:18 AM ET (US) Wow, you guys must have really calm waters out there if 5 to 6 foot seas with chop are considered huge for a 170. Out here in California that is a typical summer afternoon, and my 160 does fantastic in it. Just need to find that "sweet spot" between speed and being wet. Personally, I like speed and getting wet, but thats why the boats name is "Daddy's Prozac" :) Take care, Brent
Buckda	posted 06-16-2005 12:40 PM ET (US) Brent - do you mean 5 foot, well timed ocean swells, or 5 foot windblown waves with chop? There is a HUGE difference. Offset - did you mean windblown waves that reached 5-6 footers? That was the impression that I had. On the Great Lakes, very rarely do we get gentle 5 foot swells. A truer definition of "waves" on the big lakes is what you would call "chop." Perhaps 5-6 foot chop provides a more accurate picture of the situation in the minds of our West Coast members. We're talking fast moving, very steep 5 foot waves, typically breaking into whitecaps on the top. I may be the one in the wrong here, but that's the picture I had in my mind from this tale, and believe me - true 5-6 foot chop even in the 18 can make for a long day, especially with a significant other who may not be very comfortable in the water aboard. For instance, when I said last fall that I was out in 9-11 footers on lake Michigan in November, I meant that the waves were that tall, fast moving, windblown and breaking. That is about "all I want" in my 18. I'd be much more comfortable in 9-12 foot swells if the lake were simply rolling that day (which it rarely does).
Offset	posted 06-16-2005 01:44 PM ET (US) Riding the swell's would have been swell. These babies were breakin, in front, starboard...port...starboard...front, you get the picture. Like I mentioned, I was more concerned for my passengers. Did'nt need anyone tossed over. That would'nt have been a good day.
bspencer	posted 06-16-2005 04:07 PM ET (US) Buckda - No, I'm sorry I meant a 5 foot breaking windwaves. On a typical summer afternoon I'll encounter a 7 to 9 foot swell with 5 foot wind waves mixed in. The swell is not bad at all, but the windwaves catch you at the wrong angle at times. This is why I just take the wife to inland or protected waters. Or, I take her in the fall when the Ocean is a mill-pond and the weather is at its best.
bigjohn1	posted 06-16-2005 09:06 PM ET (US) 5 foot breaking wind waves would truly not be fun in a 170. We get large well-timed swells quite bit here from distant typhoons and they are no sweat to navigate - actually fun at times but those damn wind waves are a different animal.