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CHenry posted 08-01-2005 04:17 PM ET (US)   Profile for CHenry   Send Email to CHenry  
Current Whaler is a 2000 with a 2004 Yamaha 200 four-stroke (80 hours) thinking of going to a new 21 [undecipherable] (200 or 225) with the main goal being a better rough water ride.

My 18 is perfect in every way and I love it. Trying to get a grasp on whether or not the new 21 will be all that much better in rough conditions. What do you think?

Thanks in advance


prm1177 posted 08-01-2005 04:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
Is the problem you are having taking the rough water on plane, or looking for a drier ride when in a rough sea? I had a 17 ft Outrage II on SF Bay for over three years and just moved up to a Conquest 23. The difference in ride is startling and I go out frequently on days where, with the 17, I would have been sitting on the shore waiting for the wind to die down. The 21 is a bigger boat alright, but you may want to stretch it a bit towards the 240. The beam of both the 210 and 240 is close (8'4" vs 8'6") but the increased length and weight would be an advantage in rougher conditions. The disadvantage is that you'll need more power.

My take is that the 21 would ride better than the 18, but may not be enough depending on conditions.

WT posted 08-01-2005 05:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
"My 18 is perfect in every way and I love it."

I have a few friends that have been through multiple marriages. They have told me that all it takes is "Mo money" to trade up. :)


CHenry posted 08-01-2005 07:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for CHenry  Send Email to CHenry     
Going to stick with my beloved 18. It's taken me a couple years to get it just where I want it (with the repower and all) and in the end I don't think the 21 is a big enough jump to justify the money and hassle of switching. Fun to think about but I think I'll wait until the time comes that I can go to a 24
WT posted 08-01-2005 08:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
You won't be sorry. The 18 Outrage has a cult following. Now maybe if you found a 22 Outrage with twins on a Whaler Drive....

jimh posted 08-01-2005 11:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Please don't invent abbreviation for Boston Whaler boat model names.]
TomG posted 08-02-2005 04:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for TomG  Send Email to TomG     
I think you made the right decision, Chris. I have a 1999 18' Outrage which I have repowered with a Honda BF150. I absolutely love the boat. I think it offers the best combination of big boat features and stability with easily trailerable and launchable size. Your performance with the F200 is probably a bit better than mine, but mine still runs in the 45 mph range.

As you know, the Post-Classic 18 Outrage is a huge 18-footer...and very heavy at 2500 lbs. The 210 Outrage is 2' longer, but it only weighs 200 lbs. more. If weight is a big factor in rough water handling, there isn't an appreciable difference between the two. One of the things that I am considering to improve handling in rough conditions is the addition of trim tabs. That will allow me to put the bow down into the waves when running into a head sea. Does your boat have tabs?


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