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drd posted 08-04-2005 10:12 PM ET (US)
I'm thinking of putting in a stereo in my 1998 outrage 20. Does anyone know the original factory location and speaker size used? I'm planning on going with a clarion head unit. The kind speakers are up in the air until I find the best location. Thanks in advance.
Chuck Tribolet posted 08-05-2005 01:04 AM ET (US)
In the catalog, I don't see "Stereo" as an option for the '98
Outrage.

Chuck
BarryGreen posted 08-05-2005 08:13 AM ET (US)
drd -
For what it's worth, I bought a pair of PolyPlanar rectangular "box" speakers for my 20' Outrage. I believe they were about 5 1/2" wide (the critical dimension) by 7" long, and come with an adjustable mounting bracket. I mounted them up under the gunnels as far forward as possible, pointing downward.
Mounted this way they are completely out of sight (unless you get on your hands and knees), won't get wet when you wash the boat down, and still sound really good. A side benefit is that the sound tends to stay in the boat even at higher volumes, and you aren't as likely to disturb other around you at anchor.
Barry
phatwhaler posted 08-05-2005 09:20 AM ET (US)
drd,
I mounted some cheap West Marine box speakers to my T-top with some hose clamps. I bought some Anchor 16x3 wire and removed the wire from the white jacket. I slipped the white insulation over the hose clamps so no steel is touching aluminum. This install looks great and works well. I want to mount some speakers under the gunnel as Barry described so I have four in total. I don't think there was a factory stereo offered in 1998. Nothing brings down the value of a boat quicker than drilling a bunch of holes in it.
phatwhaler out.
ps: if you don't have the tackle box in the console you could mount them there.
bsmotril posted 08-05-2005 09:20 AM ET (US)
Do you have a "T" or Hard Top on the boat? If so, getting the speakers mounted up in the top will make them less likley to get wet, and add to their life. If you have an electronics box and a top, you can mount them flush on the bottom of the box. Without a box, the Bose outdoor bookshelf speakers can be mounted from the top framework. Those sealed box speakers also work well tucked up under the gunnel caps on center consles, pointed down to the floor. BillS
drd posted 08-07-2005 09:54 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the responses.
Unfortunitly I do not have a T-top on the boat. However it is in the plans down the road. I think without the T-top Barry's idea under the gunnel will work best. I like the idea of having them hidden and out of the way.
damian
NYGuy posted 08-07-2005 06:55 PM ET (US)
Barry Green
Your speaker mounting sounds very interesting. One question - where is your stereo and how did you run the wiring. Thanks.
BarryGreen posted 08-07-2005 08:39 PM ET (US)
NYGuy -
On the '98 20' Outrage there is a large compartment in the console with a smoked plexiglas cover that opens. Initially I mounted the stereo in there, with the DIN size mounting shell fitted through a vertically mounted piece of whaleboard. Easy to get both power to the stereo and speaker wires down into the tunnel and out to the speakers. Being well protected, any good car radio/CD player works and survices well.
Later I added an electronics box under the T-top, and moved the stereo and a 6-cd changer up there along with my VHF. That opened up the console compartment for charts, etc. Again, the radio was well protected from the weather, and pulling wires through the t-top legs was easy.
Barry
NYGuy posted 08-08-2005 08:14 PM ET (US)
Thanks Barry, I have a 99 23' OR and I need to ponder the running of speaker wires from the the T-Top electronics console to the gunwales. I'm not 100% sure of the 'plumbing' Thanks again.
John
Whalerider posted 08-08-2005 08:51 PM ET (US)
Maybe this is what Barry was talking about. Looks like a nice setup too me.
http://www.polyplanar.com/products/ma9020.asp
BarryGreen posted 08-08-2005 11:37 PM ET (US)
Whalerider - nice catch. I have never seen that shot, but that's exactly right. Simple and clean.
NYGuy - there should be a pull-cord in your T-top tubing. Mine started in the hole at the front center of the T-top frame viewed from the top, and ended inside the center console where the downtube bolts to the side of the console. Your starting point for the line may be different, of course, especially if you have the factory electronics box. If you get stuck, Whaler can tell you exactly how the the line was routed when your boat was built, it's actually shown on the BW assembly drawings.
Pulling the wires should be easy, with you pulling gently and a helper feeding them from the other end.
Barry
jimh posted 08-09-2005 08:19 AM ET (US)
When boating I find putting the loudspeaker in your ear is the most effective. When I do listen to music aboard it is generally via ear bud style headphones.
Whalerider posted 08-09-2005 12:31 PM ET (US)
AMEN Jim...and it doesnt bother the other boaters that are on the water to enjoy nature! Sound carries a LONG way on the water.

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Author	Topic: speaker location
drd	posted 08-04-2005 10:12 PM ET (US) I'm thinking of putting in a stereo in my 1998 outrage 20. Does anyone know the original factory location and speaker size used? I'm planning on going with a clarion head unit. The kind speakers are up in the air until I find the best location. Thanks in advance.
Chuck Tribolet	posted 08-05-2005 01:04 AM ET (US) In the catalog, I don't see "Stereo" as an option for the '98 Outrage. Chuck
BarryGreen	posted 08-05-2005 08:13 AM ET (US) drd - For what it's worth, I bought a pair of PolyPlanar rectangular "box" speakers for my 20' Outrage. I believe they were about 5 1/2" wide (the critical dimension) by 7" long, and come with an adjustable mounting bracket. I mounted them up under the gunnels as far forward as possible, pointing downward. Mounted this way they are completely out of sight (unless you get on your hands and knees), won't get wet when you wash the boat down, and still sound really good. A side benefit is that the sound tends to stay in the boat even at higher volumes, and you aren't as likely to disturb other around you at anchor. Barry
phatwhaler	posted 08-05-2005 09:20 AM ET (US) drd, I mounted some cheap West Marine box speakers to my T-top with some hose clamps. I bought some Anchor 16x3 wire and removed the wire from the white jacket. I slipped the white insulation over the hose clamps so no steel is touching aluminum. This install looks great and works well. I want to mount some speakers under the gunnel as Barry described so I have four in total. I don't think there was a factory stereo offered in 1998. Nothing brings down the value of a boat quicker than drilling a bunch of holes in it. phatwhaler out. ps: if you don't have the tackle box in the console you could mount them there.
bsmotril	posted 08-05-2005 09:20 AM ET (US) Do you have a "T" or Hard Top on the boat? If so, getting the speakers mounted up in the top will make them less likley to get wet, and add to their life. If you have an electronics box and a top, you can mount them flush on the bottom of the box. Without a box, the Bose outdoor bookshelf speakers can be mounted from the top framework. Those sealed box speakers also work well tucked up under the gunnel caps on center consles, pointed down to the floor. BillS
drd	posted 08-07-2005 09:54 AM ET (US) Thanks for the responses. Unfortunitly I do not have a T-top on the boat. However it is in the plans down the road. I think without the T-top Barry's idea under the gunnel will work best. I like the idea of having them hidden and out of the way. damian
NYGuy	posted 08-07-2005 06:55 PM ET (US) Barry Green Your speaker mounting sounds very interesting. One question - where is your stereo and how did you run the wiring. Thanks.
BarryGreen	posted 08-07-2005 08:39 PM ET (US) NYGuy - On the '98 20' Outrage there is a large compartment in the console with a smoked plexiglas cover that opens. Initially I mounted the stereo in there, with the DIN size mounting shell fitted through a vertically mounted piece of whaleboard. Easy to get both power to the stereo and speaker wires down into the tunnel and out to the speakers. Being well protected, any good car radio/CD player works and survices well. Later I added an electronics box under the T-top, and moved the stereo and a 6-cd changer up there along with my VHF. That opened up the console compartment for charts, etc. Again, the radio was well protected from the weather, and pulling wires through the t-top legs was easy. Barry
NYGuy	posted 08-08-2005 08:14 PM ET (US) Thanks Barry, I have a 99 23' OR and I need to ponder the running of speaker wires from the the T-Top electronics console to the gunwales. I'm not 100% sure of the 'plumbing' Thanks again. John
Whalerider	posted 08-08-2005 08:51 PM ET (US) Maybe this is what Barry was talking about. Looks like a nice setup too me. http://www.polyplanar.com/products/ma9020.asp
BarryGreen	posted 08-08-2005 11:37 PM ET (US) Whalerider - nice catch. I have never seen that shot, but that's exactly right. Simple and clean. NYGuy - there should be a pull-cord in your T-top tubing. Mine started in the hole at the front center of the T-top frame viewed from the top, and ended inside the center console where the downtube bolts to the side of the console. Your starting point for the line may be different, of course, especially if you have the factory electronics box. If you get stuck, Whaler can tell you exactly how the the line was routed when your boat was built, it's actually shown on the BW assembly drawings. Pulling the wires should be easy, with you pulling gently and a helper feeding them from the other end. Barry
jimh	posted 08-09-2005 08:19 AM ET (US) When boating I find putting the loudspeaker in your ear is the most effective. When I do listen to music aboard it is generally via ear bud style headphones.
Whalerider	posted 08-09-2005 12:31 PM ET (US) AMEN Jim...and it doesnt bother the other boaters that are on the water to enjoy nature! Sound carries a LONG way on the water.