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gamble posted 09-12-2005 05:39 PM ET (US)   Profile for gamble   Send Email to gamble  
I am new to the post classic world. I have found a 1996 17'described as an "open bow" but I see "Outrage" wriiten along the gunwale.

It has a 90hp Mercury and a 9hp kicker. Looks (pics only) like it is in excellent condition.

Can I get rough values from anyone? I know it's not much info, but it's all I have so far. Ballpark??

Thanks,
David

DBOutrage17 posted 09-13-2005 08:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for DBOutrage17  Send Email to DBOutrage17     
Do you have a link to the pictures? One quick look from one of us Outrage 17 owners could probably tell if it's an Outrage or not. I don't know why someone would describe their Whaler as an "open bow" instead of a "center console" unless it was some sort of forced choice from a sell-your-boat website...
fno posted 09-13-2005 10:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
Probably a Ventura.
gamble posted 09-13-2005 12:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for gamble  Send Email to gamble     
It's on the Yacht World sale website and is in Seattle.

Link is: http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1436935&slim=quick&

Thanks for the help,
Dave

DBOutrage17 posted 09-13-2005 03:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for DBOutrage17  Send Email to DBOutrage17     
I took a look and I'd say that is not an Outrage 17 II that they began making for 1996 models. I would guess it's an Outrage 17 I, but I'm not an expert on those... I have the 17II.

Maybe its one of the last of the 17I's made that the guy bought in 1996...

Divedog posted 09-13-2005 03:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Divedog  Send Email to Divedog     
I couldn't place the exact model, but it's definitely an Outrage. If I didn't already have a Montauk I'd be up looking at that boat!
Tom W Clark posted 09-13-2005 04:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
David,

I believe the boat you are referring to is this one:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?&checked_boats=1436935

That is an Outrage 17. The motor is a Mercury 115, not a 90 and the kicker is an Evinrude 9.9.

The trailer is an all roller EZ LOader.

The boat is in Port Townsend, not Seattle.

It might be a 1996 model as the last of the classic Outrage 17s were made in 1995.

The hull has no bottom paint; looks good. That price is very good if it is in fact as clean as it appears.

Bulldog posted 09-13-2005 04:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bulldog  Send Email to Bulldog     
David, nice looking boat for a great price, I have only two concerns, #1, keel roller trailers are preferred, so check the hull for any "bumps". The second concern is , if you are considering this boat get going! Phil Tyson just drove over 1000 miles to get a 17' Outrage, and you are sort of giving free advertising for this dealer.....Jack
gamble posted 09-13-2005 06:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for gamble  Send Email to gamble     
Thanks for all the help, and for the corrections, Tom.

Seems like I'm always a bit previous in my hunting. Jack, if you would just buy the Sentry to go with your new bar b que, I could hustle north and grab the Outrage.

Seriously, you've all helped a lot.
Thanks,
David

Tom W Clark posted 09-13-2005 08:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
David,

The photos of the boat were taken at Fleet Marine at the Point Hudson Marina in Port Townsend, a great spot to cruise to.

I would be happy to travel to Port Townsend and inspect this boat for you this weekend if you like. It is a 30 gallon round trip in my boat.

Like I said, it looks like a great boat and a good buy. If it as clean as it appears (and it probably isn't) it is definitely below market value for this area. My suspicion is that something bad accounts for the low price.

gamble posted 09-13-2005 09:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for gamble  Send Email to gamble     
Thank you, Tom. Given the prices I've seen elsewhere, I've suspected the same thing. The broker allegedly has one party coming tomorrow to see the boat and if they don't buy, he is to call me.

If you feel like checking it out, I'd be happy to buy the gas. Nothing like having my own expert on site. One of the huge benefits of CW.

I appreciate the offer.
Dave

95Outrage17 posted 09-14-2005 12:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for 95Outrage17  Send Email to 95Outrage17     
Wow! That looks almost exactly like my '95 Outrage 17 I and it looks like it's in beautiful shape! As has been mentioned, the trailer is wrong for the boat and something is might be odd with the Merc. 1st, if I'm not mistaken the Merc is a pre-'95 model (older then the boat) and the throttle on the dash is OMC not Merc. That may just mean that the original engine was an OMC that died and was replaced with an older Merc, but it's something to be aware of. I would say that unless there is something very wrong with that boat it will sell very fast at that price! Our's was listed quite a bit higher then that (with an '04 Merc 90 4 stroke). We called about it the day after it was listed on Yachtworld and put a down payment on it soon after. When I flew down to inspect it I got the impression that there where already a few other people waiting in line to buy it. If you're interested, I'd get to it quickly. We love ours. If a surveyor (or other expert) says it's in good condition I would buy it in a second.

- Chris

msullivan006 posted 09-21-2005 02:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for msullivan006  Send Email to msullivan006     
That boat is not an Outrage II, it is an Outrage I. It could be anywhere from 1991 to 1995 (not the 1990 first year because of different transom). I don't believe it can be a 1996, unless it is a leftover 1995 that has been titled as of teh date of sale in 1996. Max power rating is 120, so the 115 Merc should be a fine power choice. It looks really nice, and some like me like the OR I better then teh OR II for its light tow weight, classic construction, etc. The OR I is said to be the last of teh Classic Whalers, and the OR II is post-classic (and quite different). Give it a hard look, and then get it discounted as misrepresented ;-)

Good luck
Mike ('93 OR I)

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