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gutsandglory posted 09-23-2005 09:51 PM ET (US)   Profile for gutsandglory   Send Email to gutsandglory  
Like to hear if any one has [a Boston Whaler 235 CONQUEST] boat and any opinions they might have on it, Thanks.
bluewaterpirate posted 09-25-2005 09:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Here you go ..... good info

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002223.html

Tom

BarryGreen posted 09-26-2005 12:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for BarryGreen  Send Email to BarryGreen     
Tom - Not to hijack the thread, but did you eventually replace your 17P prop with a Rev4 15P? How much did your revs go up at WOT. As you know I got my 235 CONQUEST with a Rev4 17P, and, like you, max revs are 5700/5800. My dealer has a Rev4 15P for me as a swap, but I haven't gotten a chance to get the boat over to him yet.

Curious to know how the 15P worked for you.

Barry

bluewaterpirate posted 09-26-2005 01:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
I did ....

WOT 6250 rpms .... the sweet spot is 4500 rpms 32.5 mph 11.7 gallons per hour (4 people/120 gallons of gas/10 gallons of water/300 - 400 lbs of ice/fishing gear, sea/safety equipment). Hole shot about the same. Went 55 miles off shore last week 110 miles at 32 transit & approx 38 miles at trolling speed 7 mph (1.4 gallons per hour). Used a total of 60 gallons of gas underway 11.9 hours. Not bad at all. WOT burning right at 27.1 gallons per hour at 44.1 mph (GPS).

My wife & I are enjoying our Conquest. We fished it last week in 4 - 6' waves about 9 second intervals. Solid as a rock!

Tom

BarryGreen posted 09-26-2005 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for BarryGreen  Send Email to BarryGreen     
Tom - Thanks for the info. Just what I was hoping for, and just about what the 200 rpm/inch formula would suggest. Hopefully I'll get the prop swapped next weekend.

My experience with the 235 CONQUEST is like yours overall, although our uses are a lot different. About the most solid boat I've owned; not a squeak or shudder. I run on a big lake in NH, and between the wind and boat traffic on weekends we get a short period, tall chop that can rattle even the 40 footers. Often much worse than the tall, long rollers I'm used to on Long Island Sound. The 235 takes it all in stride. And nobody can believe the mid-range acceleration of that Verado.

By the way, I always worried about someone lifting and then letting the lid on the port transom live well go over backwards and busting up the hinges because of the weight and big overhang, so I installed one of those spring-type hatch supports on it. Set it up so it locked the lid in the dead vertical position; just nudge it out of column and the lid closes back down. Works like a charm. One of the few items BW missed.

Barry

bluewaterpirate posted 09-27-2005 07:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
That's a terrific idea ...... I've really been impressed with our Verado you can sit right next to it & carry on a normal conversation. Your right on the mark about the mid-range acceleration. I just think Whaler has to figure out the correct prop configuration for each boat. I trailer my boat and haven't had any difficulties. I have Kodiac disk brakes on both axles. Again Barry thanks for the info. I bet the lake is beautiful this time of year with all the colors. It's my favorite time of the year on the ocean the sky & sunsets are spectacular.

Tom

freboat posted 10-05-2005 11:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for freboat  Send Email to freboat     
I am also a proud owner of a 235 CONQUEST . I live at Tampa bay and was wondering about venturing off shore about 50 miles to fish. Crazy idea in a single engine? Advice or experience would be appreciated.

prm1177 posted 10-06-2005 06:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
The boat is capable of the 50 mile trip outside, but I would suggest that you always go out in the company of other boats. I have a CONQUEST 23 (1998) with twins and I still make sure I am either travelling with another boat or within radio contact of other boats in the area. It's only prudent.
defender posted 10-11-2005 02:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for defender    
I took one out this past weekend. Ride was excellent in 2-3 foot chop. Verado is soooo quiet. Seems like a great package in this size boat. My hang up on it is the open/slotted transom. In the NW, in cold water, it just seems like you are asking for it. really prefer the euro transom more. Whats some of your takes on this? Is the open transom something I should worry about, or should I just get over it?
diveorfish posted 10-11-2005 05:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for diveorfish  Send Email to diveorfish     
Defender:

I don’t think there is anything to worry about. Usually when a wave comes from behind, the stern goes up with it. It would have to be a fairly steep and large wave to get past the splash well. For Whalers, I think the open transom serves as a bit of a safety feature to help the water get out should a near swamping take place.

On the contrary, it is probably harder to get water in the 235 than it would be to get it into a euro-transom Whaler with a transom door. On my euro-transom Whaler, the transom door can let some water in during sloppy conditions. In fact, it always cracks me up when my fishing buddies with tennis shoes on stand buy the transom door. If the conditions are bad enough, they will always get the equivalent of a glass of water dumped on their shoes if they stand there long enough. On the other hand, if water does get past the splash well on the 235, someone is sitting on the back seat at the time is going to have a chill on the small of their back when the water hits them.

I too prefer the euro-transom if only for getting on and off the boat, especially with awkward gear on.

BW23 posted 10-11-2005 09:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for BW23  Send Email to BW23     
I like the transom door on my 23 Con. I keep it open 75% of the time.

It is not unusual to fill the motor well while drifing some tidal rips. The door is strong and latches well.

BarryGreen posted 10-15-2005 04:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for BarryGreen  Send Email to BarryGreen     
Tom - Since I planned to run the 235 CONQUEST over today to haul it for the winter, I picked up the replacement 15P Rev4 prop from my Whaler dealer yesterday to check it out. Even with the Verado tilted all the way up there's no way you could replace a prop from inside that boat, so (picture this) I dropped my aluminum stepladder into the water at the slip, wrestled it over next to the raised lower unit, and proceeded to pull the old 17P off and put the 15P on while sitting on top of a stepladder in about 5 feet of water. Good thing the marina was deserted!

Anyway, ran the boat over to the dealers today with the 15P Rev4. Raining so hard you could barely see, wind blowing about 15. Anyway, WOT went from 5750 and 40.1 MPH (fairly clean bottom) with the 17P to 6200 and 42 MPH (dirty bottom at end of season) with the 15P. 4500 RPM = 29.9 MPH cruise. Conditions were so lousy it didn't make sense to fool with engine trim or tabs, but I'm happy. Lost a little speed at cruise, but I feel better about not overpropping the engine.

Barry

bluewaterpirate posted 10-15-2005 10:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Ur the man Barry ...... are you keeping inside or undercover outside?

Tom

jimh posted 10-15-2005 10:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Corrected model name of Boston Whaler CONQUEST; was some absurd abbreviation.]
BarryGreen posted 10-16-2005 11:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for BarryGreen  Send Email to BarryGreen     
The boat will be stored outside, shrink wrapped, blocked at the keel and with jack stands to the hull. I've always built a frame and completely covered previous boats, but that's a luxury you give up storing in most boat yards.

You have a good rest-of-the-season, Tom, and I'll avoid using any more ABSURD abbreviations.

Barry

freboat posted 10-21-2005 08:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for freboat  Send Email to freboat     
Barry. were you referring to a 2005 Conquest with the 250 Verado? I currently have the same top speed as your older prop.
BarryGreen posted 10-24-2005 08:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for BarryGreen  Send Email to BarryGreen     
Freboat - Yes, I'm referring to my 2005 235 Conquest with a 250 Verado. Bluewaterpirate and I have been comparing notes on performance of our 235's w/different props, and specifically about changing out the original 17" pitch Rev4 factory props with the recently available 15" version. The 17" prop just barely made the bottom (5800 rpm) of Merc's WOT range for the Verado while the 15" prop gets you to 6200/6250 or so, right where it should be.

Barry

defender posted 11-04-2005 11:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for defender    
I totally have the boat bug right now. I have been able to fight it off since I moved to Seattle from Florida, but I am afraid that the case I have now is not going to go away. While my family (read wife) is trying to get me to focus on a bigger “family” boat and they love the 305, I have really been impressed by the new 235.

The local dealer in our area took delivery of a total of 5 of them this past year, and they still have 3 of the ‘05s left. Good situation for getting a deal on them. They are currently pricing them at almost 8k off the boat show price. Which puts it pretty well equipped just under 70k.

However, I am concerned about resale and why they haven’t been able to move the 235s well in this market. The dealer seems to have pretty good turn on the 305s and the smaller whalers. And the Grady Dealer here spins through its inventory like there is no tomorrow. Any thoughts on why the 235s aren’t catching on?

freboat posted 11-08-2005 06:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for freboat  Send Email to freboat     
I purchased my 2005 Conquest 235 after evaluating almost everything in its class. MarineMax of Florida seems to have turned their 235 inventory fairly well. Better than their 255's, however I don't have other comparisons. When I bought mine in August they only had two 235's in their network.

The boat is somewhat pricy in but I believe I got a good value in the boat. Mine was fully loaded with the 250-HP Verado, without trailer, before electronics and before tax came in slightly over $70,000. Probably could have pushed for more of a discount but believe I made a fair deal.

So far I have been very happy with the boat. Gets to plane very quickly, has descent cruising speeds and top end. The best surprise is how well it handles rough water, much smoother/better than I expected. No complaints.

jimh posted 11-09-2005 12:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I have admired the CONQUEST 235 since I saw the first sketches of it. It is about the right size for a cabin boat that you can also trailer. If there is anything missing on the boat it might be twin engines. This may be especially significant in the Pacific Northwest. That is an area where many folks going offshore may have a preference for twins.
bluewaterpirate posted 11-09-2005 04:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
But remember from my eariler pictures it is a breeze to add a kicker the fuel tank is already rigged for that contingency.
LHG posted 11-09-2005 04:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Is anybody ordering the 235 Conquest with the Optimax engines, or are they only available with Verados? Is the Rev-4 the prop of choice, or are some coming with Mirage Plus?

Sounds like the Verado is being very well received.

tesija posted 11-09-2005 06:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for tesija  Send Email to tesija     
You guys are ignoring the Conquest 21' option (used, since BW doesn't make this size any longer). Not much difference in cabin or deck layout, runs great with a single engine, lighter for trailer ability, fuel use etc,not to mention the all important sizeable price differential. I think there's a comparison between the two on CW somewhere, which found them to be close on all major points.
bluewaterpirate posted 11-09-2005 06:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
U'd have to special order Optimax Power. Ours came with the Mirage Plus 17P and I traded it in for a Rev 4 15P. Never looked back. I have a 250 Verado.

I don't know if you taken a Verado equipped Whaler for a spin but if you haven't you need to. It's not your average outboard package. When you put the hammer down you'd better be hanging on because if you don't you'll be in the back of the boat.

Fuel economy is great under 5000 rpms above that 23 - 27 gph. At 4500 rpms (full bag of gas, fishing equipment & 4 souls on board) 32.8 mph 12.1 gph.

You can wheel & deal with your dealer for year end discounts. Absolutely terrific boat. I fish mine 50 miles offshore on a regular basis. Great on gas plus handles changing conditions with ease.

Tom

BarryGreen posted 11-09-2005 10:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for BarryGreen  Send Email to BarryGreen     
When I bought mine it was also available with Opti's, but I was told very few went out that way. I did consider the 225 Verado, but only briefly. The price difference to move up to the 250 is pretty small, and I suspect many dealers throw it in to close the deal. And as Tom says, when you bump the throttle at any midrange speed, you'd better be hanging on.

Mine came with the 17P Rev4, now swapped for the 15P version.

Barry

LHG posted 11-09-2005 10:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Thanks for the info. It appears with the new Whaler packages, the prop is selected by the dealership?

Yes, I have driven a Verado, and I agree, that after "experiencing" one or two, a DTS Verado is likely to be in one's future. For me, it will be a 150 or 175.

freboat posted 11-15-2005 09:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for freboat  Send Email to freboat     
Hit new topic by mistake:

After reading the posts about the prop, checked mine and it is the 15P. Took delivery at the end of August. Guess Whaler or dealer caught on and fitted the 15 on later versions. Top RPMs coming in at 6000 -6100 and 42 MPH.
Great boat, the more I admire it's perforance and build quality.

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