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jimh posted 09-28-2005 12:02 AM ET (US)   Profile for jimh   Send Email to jimh  
It seems like there is interest in discussing the short-lived DEFIANCE 34 model, but the discussion keeps getting initiated in all the wrong places.

If anyone has comments about the DEFIANCE 34, post them here.

I've only seen one:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage39.html#39-7

As I recall, the skipper didn't even return our wave when we passed him.

jimh posted 09-28-2005 12:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Previous comments posted in various other places:

[Sorry for the totally ugly presentation here, but it is too much work to painstakingly move all these threads that get started up in the wrong forum.]

TomG
 posted 09-27-2005 09:49 AM ET (US)            
I've never actually been out on the water on a Defiance, but I did crawl all over them a couple of times at boat shows. While they seem nice enough,these boats don't seem to have been all that popular...as demonstrated by their brief manufacturing period and their relatively low prices in the market. And I don't think the Defiance is going to hold its value very well over the long-term.

If I were you, I'd consider another competitive brand of express boat in that size range...specifically Tiara or Pursuit. Especially if you are shopping in the Midwest, these boats are plentiful and there is generally a good selection to choose from. A late-model Pursuit 3400 or Tiara 3500 with diesels will be in the same price range as the Defiance ($200-275K). And it's common to find gas 3400's or the somewhat older Tiara 3600's for $150K or less. These are great riding boats that thrive in difficult Great Lakes conditions. I have been out fishing in 10-12-footers this year with no problems. Also, the resale value of these boats is proven...they hold their value far better than most of the competition.

Of course there are many advantages to buying a Great Lakes boat: freshwater...the short season...often indoor heated storage...less UV damage...limited corrosion. Remember that Florida boats are subjected to a lot of environmental stress in a short time...you need to factor that into your assessment.

When we were buying our Tiara (1990 3600 Open) last year, we were able to look at 6 similar boats within a 200 mile radius. We picked the one we liked the best...had it surveyed...made a deal...and had it transported from Lake Erie to Lake Michigan. All for less than $130K. Even though it is a 15 year old boat, it is in much better shape than most Florida boats that are 1/3 it's age. Just my .02...

Tom
pglein
 posted 09-27-2005 02:00 PM ET (US)            
I love the Defiance, but I just can't get over the utterly miniscule interior accomodations. At 34' it's too big to be a fishing boat, yet lacks the interior space to be a proper cruising boat.

COINJAM posted 09-29-2005 07:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for COINJAM  Send Email to COINJAM     
re; 34 Defiance - Bought my 34 in April, put 2400 miles on it traveling from Seattle to Sitka, Alaska this summer. A most enjoyable summer. Have made the same trip many times in my 31 Whaler. Very little difference in the two boats except for size. The Defiance is a superb boat. Had to swat the bystanders off each night. Met a salmon charter in Sitka, also with a Defiance. He loves the boat, as do his charter partys. We are both using Yanmar 420's Only negative I have is that the nose rides a little high for the Northwest U.S. - We have a few logs still floating, not wise to use the auto pilot. Fuel consumption about 1.3 miles per gallon. flawless performance. Prices have been dropping rapidly on this boat - have seen one in Traderonline for $185.000 - Absolute giveaway.

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