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2006 Outrages with non Verado 4 strokes?
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posted 10-05-2005 03:15 PM ET (US)
I drove by my local Boston Whaler dealer and saw a few 2006 Whalers in the yard. One was a 205 Conquest w/ 150 Verado, another was a 210 Outrage with a 2006 225 4 stroke and there was also a 190 Outrage with a 2006 115 Mercury 4 stroke.
According to Boston Whaler, no such combination exists for either the 210 or 190 Outrages. I was going to ask a salesman about it, but there were none around. In the 2006 Whaler catalog, the 190 Outrage can only be fitted with a 135/150 Optimax or 135/150 Verado and the 210 Outrage can only be fitted with a 175/200 Optimax or 175/200 Verado. I wonder what gives?
posted 10-05-2005 03:19 PM ET (US)
I bet the dealer is trying to clear some motors out of inventory, presumably motors that came bolted onto 2005 boats that customers had taken off as part of the deal. If that is so, it's too bad, as they have to know, for example, that the Merc 115 4 stroke is not right for that hull. Maybe they are hoping for someone like me to come along and buy it.
posted 10-05-2005 04:15 PM ET (US)
Yea Sal, I thought the same thing but the motors had "2006" model year stamped on them and also, new Whalers come pre-rigged from the factory.
posted 10-05-2005 06:08 PM ET (US)
Hello.. I am new to this site, however,I have been reviewing the comments for a couple of months. I down sized from a "99" 208 Grady with a Mercury 225 EFI to a "2005" 19 Nantucket with a 115 Mercury EFI 4 stroke. With the Grady (Great Boat) I was getting about 1.6 MPG. With the new Boston Whaler I installed a Floscan and now I average over 5.6 MPG (27 hours). I cruise at 4600 rpm which gives me 25/26 MPH. Top speed at 6000 RPM is about 38/39. The Grady would cruise at 30 MPH @ 4200 rpm. Top speed about 46 MPH. But your can only cruise comfortably as fast as water conditions will allow. Most of the time the Bay has 2 foot chop. The 115 gets up on plane in 2/3 seconds its quiet,great mileage,and no smoke. I don't think it needs Tabs as its Balance is great with the engine weight at 386 lbs. Had tabs on the Grady, used them all the time(heavy motor). I "single hand" fish a lot in Barnegat Bay,the inlet and run out to the Ridge (15 miles off shore) on nice days. With 3 or more people on the Nantucket w/115 4 stoke,its probably a dog. But its great for me and my wife and i'm saving a bunch of money on fuel.
"My 2 cents"
posted 10-05-2005 08:36 PM ET (US)
I had the same boat. And I boat in Barnegat Bay also. The difference for me was that I frequently had 6 people n the boat, pulling a tubey, with a cooler of water and samiches. I could see that someone such as yourself (ie just you and your wife) would find that combination adequate. I repowered my boat with a Yamaha F150 after one season, still got about 5 mpg, and the engine was so much quieter. I also felt more comfortable going out of the inlets.
I am happy you enjoy your new purchase, and hope our chatting on his forum didn't give you any remorse; it sounds like you have a rig that fits your needs real well.
posted 10-05-2005 08:37 PM ET (US)
should be "chatting on this forum"
posted 10-07-2005 02:09 PM ET (US)
Mercury is still showing the Yamaha built 225 4-stroke in the 2006 catalog. I have no idea what this means, in the light of the fact that I read their deal with Yamaha was for 4000 of those engines.
I'm only guessing, but I am assuming they still have some of those left to move? With the Verado being available now, I can't see any other reason for this 4-stroke duplication.
For someone wanting a new F225 Yamaha, this might be a cheaper way of getting one as Mercury attempts to unload them. I recently saw a brand new 30" version for $11K even
posted 10-07-2005 10:28 PM ET (US)
Yea, they might be unloading the rest of the black Yamaha's at a good deal on the 2006 boats. I agree with you Larry, I would rather have a Verado.
Another interesting note is that the 190 Outrage had a plate that claimed the maximum motor weight to be 510 lbs. This is what the plate says on my Nantucket. According to their web site, Boston Whaler increased the weight to 530 lbs. accommodate the new heavier Verado. Kinda strange huh?
posted 10-09-2005 01:21 PM ET (US)
"Another interesting note is that the 190 Outrage had a plate that claimed the maximum motor weight to be 510 lbs. This is what the plate says on my Nantucket. According to their web site, Boston Whaler increased the weight to 530 lbs. accommodate the new heavier Verado. Kinda strange huh?"
Does anyone recall the recent thread on this subject. Many were convinced major changes had occurred, scuppers moved, structural stregthening and all sorts of majic. Others of us just figured they would change the data plate and that would be the extent of the changes and now we find they did not even change that. Perfect example of people jumping to conclusions based on nothing more than speculation. That is why I simply called them up and asked them and was told exactly what we now know---no changes.
posted 10-09-2005 05:54 PM ET (US)
If they didn't change the plate to increase the maximum motor weight from 510 lbs, how can they put on a 530 lb Verado? I've seen photos of new 190 Outrages with Verados on the transom. Do they only change the plate to increase the max motor weight on the Verado equipped 190 Outrages?
posted 10-11-2005 04:41 AM ET (US)
"If they didn't change the plate to increase the maximum motor weight from 510 lbs, how can they put on a 530 lb Verado?"
Real easy, they just push the lift with the Verado hanging from it over to the transom and bolt her on. No one but folks on this forum would quibble over 20 lbs, lol. When they run out of the old plates mayeb they will print up some new ones with the 20 lb increase or maybe not because somehow I figure they don't care about the 20 lbs and we should not either. Maybe when and if they do they will change the scupper positions just to fool us, not move the up or down but instead side to side, the distance we could go with that would be enormous.
posted 10-11-2005 09:25 AM ET (US)
Who worries about capacity plates? The legislators in some states, for example, Ohio. They have laws which prohibit operation of a recreational boat when any of the capacities on the builder's capacity plate are exceeded.
If the motor exceeds the rated capacity, you could be operating illegally in some waters, depending on the local regulations.
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