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poker13 posted 11-14-2005 10:45 AM ET (US)   Profile for poker13  
The Whaler website has some new pictures of the actual Montauk 150 (the first pics were photoshopped "artist's renderings"). One picture shows two guys trying to sit together on the tiny RPS--you can tell they're really squeezed in there. Good-looking boat though.
Moe posted 11-14-2005 12:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
From the best I can tell, the 150 Montauk uses the same console (with different dashplate) and RPS as the 170 Montauk. Keep in mind, it's only 4" narrower than the 170.

I once did a "concept" drawing of a 150 Montauk, using the 170 components:

http://www.engr.udayton.edu/staff/lriggins/Whaler/150MT.gif

I moved the 72 quart cooler over as well. Looks like Whaler is putting the console and RPS further forward than I did, necessitating a smaller cooler. That's too bad. We have one of those 36 quart coolers and they're pretty useless for keeping ice. Too bad they didn't use a 54 quart.

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Moe

David Livingstone posted 11-16-2005 04:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Livingstone  Send Email to David Livingstone     
Except for being a foot shorter than my 1998 Montauk, the 150 is near the same size. Also have to agree that a 72 qt cooler would be more useful.

Does anyone have a price on this boat yet?

David

Perry posted 11-16-2005 06:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
Nice boat, I'd like to get one and repower it with a 90 Hp 2 stroke Yamaha but I don't have room for another Whaler.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/perrycl/150MT_main.jpg

poker13 posted 11-16-2005 07:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for poker13    
Would be perfect with a 90 E-Tec!
LHG posted 11-16-2005 08:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Finally, they did it. We've been talking about it here for sometime now. It's a sharp looking boat, I think, about the size of the original Montauk, actually. It should be a real big seller. I'll bet it will get 7 or 8 miles to the gallon with that EFI 60 4-stroke
Sport130 posted 11-16-2005 08:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sport130  Send Email to Sport130     
I went to the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show a couple of weeks ago and took some pictures of the new 150 Montauk.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/t/a/tat-fl/Boston_Whaler/index.htm

Pretty nice!

tat

Jeff C posted 11-16-2005 08:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff C  Send Email to Jeff C     
Although I have been following this site for several months, this is my first post. I have wanted a Whaler for probably 20 years, and this winter my wife says I can pull the trigger. A few years ago, part of the family vacation was a stop in Edgewater FL to tour the factory. I have a beat up old BW cap, that I will not toss until I have my boat. In preparation of this historic event, I have tested 3 boats. Two are made by builders in RI (Stagepoint 17 & Bristol Skiff), and the other was a Sport 150. After I tested the 150, my comment was this would be a perfect boat if it had a center console. I have talked to two dealers in Connecticut, and one was able to provide a price sheet with a sell price of $18,000 even for a boat, motor (60 hp 4S) and trailer. Add a few goodies and I'm at about $20,000 out the door. Alot of dough for a 15 foot boat. The other dealer said that he still has not received pricing from Boston Whaler, and because the production line just started, BW wants to track manufacturing costs before they set the suggested retail price. Dealer #1 stated that a 190 Montauk is in the works. By the way, this site is awesome.
LHG posted 11-16-2005 09:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
Wow - I'm betting a 190 Montauk could be an awful lot like an old 18 Outrage.
home Aside posted 11-16-2005 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Last August at the Kelley's Island Owners Event, the Product Development/engineering guy from Boston Whaler (Can't think if his name at this moment) said the Montauk 190 was in development....he sounded excited about the project...

Pat

Moe posted 11-17-2005 07:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
Sport130, thank you for the pictures! The URL worked by cutting and pasting. When you post a URL, you can put [url] in front of it and [/url] behind it and it will become clickable here. Just make sure there are no spaces anywhere in the string of text, and that there's no punctuation, such as a comma or period at the end. For example,

http://bellsouthpwp.net/t/a/tat-fl/Boston_Whaler/index.htm

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Moe

poker13 posted 11-17-2005 10:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for poker13    
Wow, a 190 Montauk! That would be nice. I'd like to see a 170 Sport for those who prefer a sit-down family boat.
davej14 posted 11-17-2005 11:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for davej14  Send Email to davej14     
I don't think many people will be happy with the 60 Hp max rating. When compared to my Dauntless 14 foot, the Montauk 150 is 11" longer, 2" wider and weighs just 50# less than my Dauntless which has a 75 Hp max nameplate. I don't think 60 Hp is going to make the 170 a very exciting performer, especially when loaded with gear. It also looks like the steering doesn't tilt and the console is low. The big advantage vs. my Dauntless is the floor space behind the RPS but it looks crowded forward of the center console just like mine.

I will bet that most people will opt for the 170 as they did with the Dauntless 16 instead of the 14 which only had a 2-year production run. Is this history repeating itself?

nydealer posted 11-17-2005 04:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for nydealer  Send Email to nydealer     
Dave, your comments of your boat vs. the new montauk are the exact comments we get about the 160 Dauntless and 170 montauk. Most upgraded items come on hte dauntless and not on the montauk ie built in tank, tilt wheel, extra storage. The reason for the extra horsepower available on yours is the same as on the 16'. It just takes more power to plane a Deep V hull. The Montauk/Sport hulls are faster to plane with less bow rise than the Dauntless series. A larger engine would be nice but being that it shares the 150 sport hull i'm not supprised it carries the same max HP. The console as stated earlier is the same as the 170 montauk. I always thought it to be a good size on the 170 until I drove the 150 Montauk. The console and RPS are a good fit for the 150 but now seem small for the 170. I think this should be a popular model as long as they don't over do what it offered. The big problem was all the features on the 14 dauntless made it expensive for a 14' boat.
Sport130 posted 11-17-2005 04:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sport130  Send Email to Sport130     
As to price, there was a show special sign on the 150 Montauk (might be visable in the pictures). Here's the text from the sign:

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New for 2006
150 Montauk

o Mercury 60 ELPT EFI Four Stroke
o Galvanized Trailer

Other Notable Options
o Swim Ladder
o Fishing Package

$19,460*
Show Special

* Price includes Freight and Prep. Boat must purchase at the 2006 Fort Lauderdale Boat Show in order to receive the Boston Whaler Boat Show special price. Price does not include tax, tag and title.


<< Boston Whaler logo here >>

========================================================

The typos on the sign are theirs.

tat

Perry posted 11-17-2005 09:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
nydealer, have you heard anything regarding a 190 Montauk?

Is there really a market for such a boat with Whaler already making the 190 Outrage?

nydealer posted 11-17-2005 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for nydealer  Send Email to nydealer     
I saw a line drawing of the 190 Montauk at the dealer meeting. It appears to have a similar hull and style to the 150/170. If I remember though, it will have a built in tank. It would be tough to get good range out of portable tanks. I think it will compete more with the 180 dauntless than the outrage. The 190 outrage is designed as an offshore model with a definate fishing(trolling)appeal to it. The 180 Dauntless is more inshore designed with family in mind. More seating, lower freeboard. The 190 Montauk will have a similar relationship with the 160 DA and 170 Montauk. I don't have much info beyond this. I think the planned release is for Miami. Production shippments will most likely start in July/Aug '07 model year.
chopbuster posted 11-24-2005 11:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for chopbuster  Send Email to chopbuster     
Sport130; read your post.

"New for 2006
150 Montauk

o Mercury 60 ELPT EFI Four Stroke
o Galvanized Trailer

Other Notable Options
o Swim Ladder
o Fishing Package

$19,460*
Show Special"

Not a very "SPECIAL" price

$17,200.00 here in the East

Sport130 posted 11-24-2005 12:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sport130  Send Email to Sport130     
Chopbuster,

Agree, but it's the first official price I have seen for the new 150 Montauk. The Whaler site still doesn't have any prices for it and I wanted to see it as well as get a price.

I like your price much better, is that with the same options? Where (about) in the "east" it this price from? Once the local dealers start to get them in maybe I can do a little better on the price.

Anyway not in too big of a hurry, I still need a vehicle with more towing capacity.

tat

chopbuster posted 11-25-2005 11:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for chopbuster  Send Email to chopbuster     
Sport130:

Quoted that price from a dealer in great State of Delaware,
it included a pared down version of the fishing package that does not include the rod holders or tackle box.

I would expect the "Boat Show" prices to close to that number. Don't rollover for the dealers because its a new product, they'll expect buyers to pay what ever is being asked just so they can be the first on the block to have one. Negotiate!

CB

rbmurray1 posted 11-26-2005 10:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for rbmurray1  Send Email to rbmurray1     
Greetings,
Thanks for the pictures. Nice boat
I'd wandered into a whaler dealer to ask some questions about a 1963 Whaler that was for sale that I'd just seen..and the dealer mentioned the new 15' montauk..

A couple questions about the Montauk 15..where does the white light install when it is not being stored ?
What is the cover/well on the starboard stern ?

Also what would be the result of powering this boat with a Honda 4 stroke 50 hp. (Since the honda is considerably lighter than the mecury, max 212 lbs, versus the mecury is 264 lbs) would the resulting fuel consumption be significantly less ?

Sport130 posted 11-26-2005 12:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sport130  Send Email to Sport130     
rbmurray1,

The anchor light mounts(plugs) in the connector in the top of the center console (see picture BW_150-Montauk07.jpg). The cover/well in the stern is the sump where the bilge pump (and float switch) is located.

As to different power options I believe that requires special ordering to get the boat without an engine (if possible?) and the issue of different wiring and cabling.

tat

rbmurray1 posted 11-26-2005 06:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for rbmurray1  Send Email to rbmurray1     
Thanks for the location of the light explaination.
My question about the cover/well in the starboard rear of the 15 Montauk is about the upper round cover/lid, not the slotted rectanngular sump cover..I knew what the slotted cover was for..but do not know about the solid cover
Thanks
PMUCCIOLO posted 11-26-2005 11:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
I like the new Montauk 150. The boat's appealing lines, uncluttered layout, and fuel efficient engine make her a manageable package which can be stored in a standard garage with ease. That's essential to Floridians, whose waterfront marinas and storage facilities are falling prey to condominium developers and hurricanes.

The off-center drain sump reminds me of the classic 15' Whaler hull. Although she doesn't have the potential for the "lift off" and rocket-like performance which made the classic 15 Whaler famous, I think 35MPH is adequate for most folks. The Montauk 150 should provide a more comfortable ride in windy and choppy waters with her weight, beam, and freeboard. (By the way, rbmurray1, I think the cover to which you're referring accesses the rigging tube.)

At first I was dismayed by the inability to select the engine, trailer, and accessories of my choice when Boston Whaler was purchased by Brunswick. The research, development, engineering, and testing Boston Whaler has performed under Brunswick's tenure have produced incredible boat/motor/trailer packages. The refinement, features, and comforts of the new Whalers such as the Montauk 150 have renewed my enthusiasm for the brand to which my family has remained loyal for over thirty years.

That being said, I think a few more options are worthy of consideration: SmartCraft gauge, compass, stern light to complement the bow chock, and cushion set for the stern quarters. I am not fond of the all-around stern/anchor light protruding from the top of the console.

The Montauk 150 I saw had a flawless finish and was very neatly rigged. I trust the Montauk 150's performance on a sea trail will be equally as impressive.

rbmurray1 posted 11-27-2005 12:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for rbmurray1  Send Email to rbmurray1     
thanks for the reply...i'm sorta dumb about whalers/power boat in general
what is the "rigging tube" ? what's the purpose..I could guess, but I'd reckon without reason..thanks
Moe posted 11-27-2005 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
On a side console boat, like the 150 Sport, the big bundle consisiting of heavy steering and lighter shifting cables, wiring harness, and fuel line, run aft along the side of the boat, and turn toward the motor at the transom, as in this picture:

[Hyperlink: www.whaler.com]

On a center console boat, these all run down into a "rigging" tube under the cockpit sole (floor) that runs aft to the starboard side, then they have to curve both up and back toward the motor, as shown in this picture:

[Hyperlink: bellsouthpwp.net]

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Moe

Sport130 posted 11-27-2005 11:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sport130  Send Email to Sport130     
rbmurray1,

Sorry, I misunderstood your questions about the cover/well on the stern, thought you meant the sump.

PMUCCIOLO,

Since you mentioned the off center drain sump. At the show I was told that the mysterious optional livewell will be located next to the bilge pump sump in the cockpit sole (thanks for the education Moe). Seem like kind of a strange place for it. I was expecting it to be located in one of the stern steps maybe with a hinged cover so you could still use it as a step.

And you are right on the money this boat appeals to partly because it will fit in my garage and as a Floridian that is important. If my garage was just a couple of feet deeper I'd be looking at the 170 Montauk.

tat

jimh posted 12-15-2005 11:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Revived this thread for more recent comments.]
Sport130 posted 12-16-2005 05:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sport130  Send Email to Sport130     

Ok, some new information. A few days ago Boston Whaler posted the Manual for the new 150 Montauk on their website. So now there's a lot more information on it, for one the mysterious livewell's location isn't anymore. It appears to be a rather large assembly added to the stern area that also forms sort of a motorwell. Seem to take up a lot of space. But it does look like it has two more cup (or rod) holders!

tat

poker13 posted 12-17-2005 08:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for poker13    
Yeah, I saw that the other day. Still no MSRP, though.
WT posted 12-17-2005 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
I am looking for a classic or used 170 Montauk. So I called my Boston Whaler dealer to find out what a new 150 Montauk was selling for. He told me around $20,000 for the new 150 Montauk.

I don't feel that they will sell many 150 Montauks if the price is $20,000. That's a lot of money for a 15 foot boat.

Warren


nydealer posted 12-17-2005 11:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for nydealer  Send Email to nydealer     
I just received the 1/01/06 pricing. I don't have it with me but I seem to remember base boat no options at about $18K. We have one on order with Livewell, fishing package, bow rail and cushion, bimini. I roughly figured it would be ~$21-22K. Also no winter Show promo on the 150 MT. Not that much money when you figure a 16' at ~$30k. Although it does make the 17 Montauk look like a good price.
poker13 posted 12-19-2005 01:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for poker13    
OUCH!!!
george nagy posted 12-19-2005 07:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for george nagy  Send Email to george nagy     
I wonder if they will add the livewell option to the mt170.

I for one am looking forward to seeing this mt190. I wonder if it will have a max hp rating of 115 or 135?

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