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New 285 Conquest
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posted 12-02-2005 02:57 PM ET (US)
Has anyone seen the new 285 Conquest yet? I am looking at purchasing a new Conquest soon and trying to decide between the 285 or the 305. The earliest I will be able to see the 285 is at the Seattle boat show in mid January. The only info. I have on the 285 is from Whaler's website but it does not yet have the performance data which I am really interested in. Has anyone heard any comparisons of the 285 vs. 305? Any idea if 2 adults be able to fit in the back berth? Thanks very much for any info.
posted 12-03-2005 06:59 PM ET (US)
I have a 305 Conquest with a back berth. It is possible for two small adults to sleep there but it wouldn't be a pleasant nights sleep. The headroom is not all that much and the access is awkward around the stairs leading down to the cabin.
The small adult with the biggest bladder should sleep on the inside because the person on the outside will have to get out before the one on the inside can get out and pee.
A single child might put up with sleeping in the "rear stateroom" and the area is handy for storage but two adults would be better off sleeping in the cockpit.
posted 12-03-2005 10:14 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the info! What are the things you like about your 305? Anything you don't like?
posted 12-05-2005 01:00 PM ET (US)
I like my 305 very much. It has a very good ride in most sea conditions and the hull is a good fishing platform and is remarkably stable even when the boat is getting beamed. I have been on friends much bigger boats and the 305 is more comfortable than most. It will plane as low as 13 knots and we have had to slow down below planing speed only once when running into very tight four foot chop. The cockpit is large and uncluttered.
My wife and I can fish it offshore for tuna, sails and marlin without additional crew and that is why we like the size of this boat.
We took an 800 nautical mile cruise last year and the living arangements though small are well thought out and I was a lot more comfortable than I thought I would be. If you are going to be out longer than overnight, I would not consider a smaller boat.
Fit and finish is typical of BW, you are paying for something when you buy this boat.
Fuel economy with 225 YamaMerc 4-stroke efi's is acceptable.
The only downside is that the boat is wet. You can put the hammer down going into a headsea without a session with the chiropractor but you will put more than spray over the top. It is drier when you slow down, put the bow up and mush along at sub planing speeds. My previous 23 Conquest was a bone shaker but remarkably dry.
The luxury car ride of this boat is due to the fact that all of the hull is in the water. All that displaced water has to go somewhere and the spray rails can't handle all of it. Perhaps it would be possible to get a drier ride with a bigger bow flare and bigger, higher spray rails. BW are you listening? No boat is perfect but the 305 would be close if it were drier.
posted 12-05-2005 05:09 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all the info. I appreciate it.
To make my long story somewhat shorter --
I have always admired Whalers but never owned one. I had a 24' Searay which I took from Vancouver to Alaska back in 1989. Great trip but I swore off ever owning a boat with legs again! I now live on the waterfront near Vancouver and have a dock and anchoring buoy in front of my house which could just barely fit a 305.
Started seriously looking at Whalers in the Spring and was thinking of the new 255 for day trips etc. but then thought that maybe I should look at something I could use for overnight trips for the family (wife, 2 kids ages 5&8).
Saw a used 305 and my wife fell in love with the interior. Said there is no way she is going overnight on 255 if she has to move seat cushions to get at toilet plus all 4 of use could never go overnight on it.
Then I learned about the new Verados and went for a test drive on a new 305 with Verados which was beautiful but I was still very hesitant with the price and also size. I would really like something that I feel comfortable with on my dock and also I would like to haul it out for a couple of months every winter which the 305 is a bit big for.
In the summer my dealer informed me that Whaler was designing the 285. I am thinking this may be the ideal boat for me - designed for Verados, bit smaller than a 305 but hopefully similar interior cabin size and comforts (to keep my wife and kids happy). The only info. I am able to get about the 285 has come from Whaler's site. It is hard to get any info. from my dealer! No idea when the 1st 285 will be up here in Canada so I think the 1st time I can see one is at the Seattle boat show in mid January. I guess once I see the 285 in person I will know almost immediately if it seems right for me but it is hard waiting!
If anyone sets eyes on one before me I would love to hear their feedback and see any pictures.
posted 12-05-2005 07:35 PM ET (US)
I have a trailer for my 305 and I haul the boat out for the summer and store it on the trailer when I leave.
A 3/4 ton truck or suv is needed. Four wheel drive is helpful when dealing with a heavy boat and slick ramp. Low range is helpful. My house is at the end of a very steep hill and my diesel 4x4 Excursion handles boat and trailer just fine in low range.
The 305 manuevers very well for docking. With one engine forward and one in reverse, I can put the boat just about anywhere where there is space and I am not that good.
If I were looking at boats, it might all boil down to price. If the used 305 has what you want and is priced fairly, it might be the way to go. I doubt the 285 will be much easier to either trailer or manuever and you know you aren't going to get a good deal on a new model boat.
posted 12-18-2005 10:54 PM ET (US)
Well - it looks as if the Seattle Boat Show may have to be rescheduled due to the Seahawks needing the stadium. If anyone is at any boat shows before Feb. (Vancouver Boat show is Feb and may be the 1st chance I get) and can snap any pics of the new 285 Conquest I sure would appreciate it!
posted 12-23-2005 06:07 AM ET (US)
I own a 28 Conquest.. i,m 6.3 and am able to sleep in the aft berth it really isn't too bad.
posted 12-27-2005 09:51 PM ET (US)
Can you post some photos of your 305 in the water and on trailer?
posted 12-28-2005 09:10 AM ET (US)
I know I am a little off topic but would somebody give me a primer on where to post photos.
posted 12-29-2005 10:27 PM ET (US)
I just received some wonderful photos from 'sideshow' in Queensland Australia.
Before I knew he was from Australia I was trying to figure out the reason for the weird LARGE boat registration numbers.
The boat is beautiful in photos!!
posted 12-29-2005 10:59 PM ET (US)
Are the photos of the new 285?? If so, if you can post them here, link to them or e-mail them to me email@example.com I would REALLY appreciate it!!!
posted 12-31-2005 03:37 PM ET (US)
No, the photos are of the new Conquest305 with twin Verados!
It is awesome. I would like to order one next winter.
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