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Marsh posted 01-24-2006 10:26 PM ET (US)   Profile for Marsh   Send Email to Marsh  
Any theories as to why Whaler does not factory pre-wire the 170 Montauk (nor any other models) with wiring and connections for trolling motors?

Precluded because of manufacturing process complexity?
Hull warranty concerns?
Too much added cost?
Too few fishermen among customer base?

I cannot come up with a theory that makes any sense at all. It's the one thing I would really like to change about my Whaler: having to drape the heavy-gauge electric cable across my deck, from the console-mounted batteries to the bow-mount troller. Pre-wired connections would make a much neater (and safer) package.

Marsh

WT posted 01-24-2006 10:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
The Dauntless models have a trolling motor hook up.

Warren

nydealer posted 01-24-2006 10:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for nydealer  Send Email to nydealer     
The sport/Montauk series does not include these because of cost. The limited options on these models help keep the price down. If you add all the little options, you end up at a 160 Dauntless for ~$30K.
Jkcam posted 01-25-2006 04:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jkcam  Send Email to Jkcam     
I would think it is because they can "get away with it" in the market place. I agree that it is amazing that a $2. piece of pvc and a end cap/plug would not be standard on any skiff made these days.

I previously ownd a Scout 175Sportfish, (a very nice boat) that did not have the prewiring for a bow mount trolling motor. It is an inexpensive option when ordered on the Scout. I contacted the best trolling motor shop and was quoted a price of approximatley $1000 to retrofit the Scout with first class wiring. The way Scouts are made makes after the fact installation difficult because of the addition of foam after the hull components are bonded. I skipped the trolling motor.

If I were installing a trolling motor on a boat that was not pre wired, I would just run the cord to a plug on the console and try and not trip on it.

It (170 Montauk) is still a very nice boat. Enjoy.
jkc

lurkynot posted 01-25-2006 09:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for lurkynot  Send Email to lurkynot     
On my 18 Dauntless they molded in a tube to snake the wiring up to the bow where an area was molded in for your connecting point. Because I like to do all my own rigging on my boat I preffered it this way. You can run the gauge appropriate wire for your setup and choose the connection to use in the case of the hardware. Also they molded in a backup board in the area where the troll motor is attached to the bow. Awesome is all I can say about the thought that went in to these 2 areas. For the guys who would rather buy and fly not a great choice, but then again there are options. I have had 2 other boats and neither came close to these features. I ended up with something I was never satisfied with and dredded it every time out. Actually found myself spending the off season trying to improve the mounts or wiring issues. Then I bought a Whaler and have absolutely no regrets - except that I did not buy it back in 1988 when I purchased my first boat.
jimh posted 01-25-2006 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
This has to be a cost decision. Why drive the cost higher of every boat built when only a small percentage of owners will be using a trolling motor.

I do understand how the closed hull structure of the Boston Whaler Unibond™ construction can make it difficult to add concealed wiring.

Marsh posted 01-25-2006 10:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marsh  Send Email to Marsh     
Jim:
"Why drive the cost higher of every boat built when only a small percentage of owners will be using a trolling motor?"

I would have agreed with you 20 years ago. But I truly believe the market is different nowadays. I suspect that the market for trollers is much more substantial that we might think. My very unscientific survey of boats launched at the places I launch (coastal Louisiana, and the inland lakes of the Tennessee River)shows a substantial number of trolling motor users among those with Montauk-like boats: center consoles of 15 to 22 feet. I would suspect that the ratio is well over half, and perhaps approaches 100% at certain times of the day.

I am puzzled that Whaler would offer the pre-wire feature on the Dauntless, but not the Montauk. There is no similar reluctance in offering costly electronics or engine options. There is no reluctance to offer the "fishing package", or the bow cushion, or the Bimini, any of which would seem to be more expensive than the pre-wire kit.

My conclusion is that it's due to a failure to understand today's fishermen and their needs.

Marsh

WT posted 01-26-2006 12:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
I think the fishing package for the 170 Montauk should include:

1) A tunnel for electric trolling motor and fishfinder hook-up on the bow.
2) Pedestal seat at the bow.
3) Livewell.

Warren


swist posted 01-26-2006 07:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for swist  Send Email to swist     
"My very unscientific survey of boats launched at the places I launch (coastal Louisiana, and the inland lakes of the Tennessee River)shows a substantial number of trolling motor users among those with Montauk-like boats:"

But here in the coastal Northeast, you see very few electric trolling motors on the same kind of boats (also unscientifically determined!)

Royboy posted 01-27-2006 04:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
The very best way to voice these types of opinions is to the manufacturer. If they get enough feeback from actual owners, there is a much better chance of seeing these features show up on future models. I know from experience that Whaler appreciates any feed back they can get.

Roy

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