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205 Conquest engine choice
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posted 01-24-2006 11:45 PM ET (US)
I have an opportunity to buy one of three either new (2006) or leftover 205 (2005) Conquests at relatively comparable prices with one of the following engine choices: a 150 Verado(2006), a 175 HP Optimax(2005) or a 200 HP Optimax(2005).
As can be expected, the 2006 Verado is the higher price unit but that is not a limiting factor. From my perspective, the 150 Verado is nice with all the bells and whistles but it seems small for a 2800 pound boat. The 175 Optimax seems very nice, possibly ideal, but that engine power choice is now discontinued for that model and I have not located a 205 with the 175 Verado in my area. The 200 HP is probably going to be very fast (it will be primarily used as a bay fishing/family cruising boat) but the BW specs show an almost 20 dB noise increase over the Verado. Do those who have this engine identify the engine noise as a troublesome concern. Which would you choose and why?
posted 01-25-2006 01:46 PM ET (US)
My Mercury people tell me the 200 Optimax is a quieter running engine than the 135-175HP 2.5 liter version. But I can't confirm this, but nor was this in connection with any sale. The 200 is just one powerhouse of an engine, and is what I would get if want speed and performance. If you can live with 150 HP, the Verado would be your best bet, and an overall finer rig. BUT, test drive a boat with 150 HP first, to make sure it's enough for you and not leaving you underpowered, the biggest disappointment of all in a new boat purchase.
I will say this. Cabin model boats tend to be noiser running, since the windshield and cabin contain engine noise. So there is no doubt the quiet Verado would improve your boating enjoyment. A 175 or 200 Verado is what you wantideally! Just because a dealer has a boat in stock, doens't mean you have to take it. I have purchased 3 Boston Whalers new, and I have found there is no difference in price to get EXACTLY what you want compared to taking a showroom model with what you don't want. Shop around a little. A specially ordered boat takes about 3 months, if I remember correctly
posted 01-28-2006 12:59 PM ET (US)
And don't forget, the 200 Optimax can be had with DTS, just like the Verado.
posted 01-28-2006 04:28 PM ET (US)
I don't mean to be rude, but would you mind sharing what kind of price quotes you are getting right now for the 205 Conquest?
posted 01-28-2006 11:36 PM ET (US)
For a 2,800 pound hull, 150-HP seems a bit on the low side. I have a 2,600 pound Whaler hull and have a 225-HP motor--and my hull is rated for 300-HP!
The Verado 150-HP engine is small displacement on top of that. It only has 1.73-liter displacement. The OptiMax 200-HP engine has 3.0-Liter displacement. I'd think it would be a better performer on that boat. Apparently the hull cannot tolerate the addition 140-pounds of added weight with the 200-HP Verado (compared to the 200-HP OptiMax).
posted 01-29-2006 09:15 AM ET (US)
I think going with either the 150 or 175 HP engines on this boat would be a big, big mistake. These post-classics need to be maxed out (HP-wise) for best performance.
The 200 HP on my 21' Walkaround (2600#) gives all around good performance, but I have been kicking myself for 13 years because I went with the 200 (dealers advice) instead of the max 250 HP. When I repower, it will definitely be with a 250.
A good friend of mine recently repowered with a 150 Optimax and I was actually shocked at how noisey it was at cruising and WOT.
Take Larry's advice and shop around.
posted 01-29-2006 11:12 AM ET (US)
Take a look at the Whaler performance data. As I said, (and Bass & Walleye Boats confirmed with their testing) the 200 Optimax is one strong engine, with best in it's class on fuel economy. They also said is was a tie with Evinrude on quiet running sound (both quieter than Yamaha HPDI), and Evinrude has been advertizing how quiet their 3.3 liter's are at speed. So the only way you'll get quieter running is with a Verado. For an engine that will give you an impressive 51 MPH on this boat, and cruising fuel use at a super impressive 4.89 MPG, I think it's where I would go, at least, if THOSE characteristics are important to you.
I would not buy any pre-powered Whaler these days without a test drive with the engine you want to buy, Try them all out, even if you have to do this a different shops, and see which engine you like best.
posted 02-04-2006 10:25 PM ET (US)
Thanks to everyone for the very insightful and thoughtful replys. I found a good deal. I ordered a 205 with a 175 HP Verado. Outside of the trailer and the cockpit cover, I ordered everything else on the option list. Goodbye 170.
The performance data of the 200 HP Optimax is much better than the 175 HP Verado, except for the noise level. However, as a safety professional, I am not going to discount the effect to our hearing of an exposure to an engine that normally operates at a deafening 95-108 dBA noise level. After all, this is supposed to be fun for the occupants, and we buy Whalers to be safe.
posted 02-08-2006 06:43 PM ET (US)
Be sure to let us know how like your new rig. Anxious to hear about the 175 Verado, as that's something I've been looking at also.
posted 02-06-2007 05:56 PM ET (US)
I own a 2005 Eastport 205 (same as the Conquest 205) powered with a 200 Optimax.
The engine is noisy at WOT, but it significantly outperforms the 150 which I tested before settling on the 200.
The 150 would have been ok, but the 200 is notably quicker.
posted 02-21-2007 09:01 PM ET (US)
I have a 2005 205 with a 175 optimax (6 yr extended warranty) that has never been in water. Needs to go through break in period. Has all options except the electronics package listed in brochures. Taking Offers.
posted 02-22-2007 12:26 PM ET (US)
The Verado in my opinion is the way to go.
Digital throttle controls with a powerplant engine that doesn't shake and is quiet running. I just wish that my 190 Nantucket came with the 150 Verado instead of the 150 Optimax when I bought the boat (The boat was a left over, brand new and still factory shrink wrapped when I bought it last April 2006).
It was a great deal $$$.
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