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gerryb posted 02-27-2006 11:24 AM ET (US)   Profile for gerryb   Send Email to gerryb  
Hi

I am new to boating and I am considering purchasing a 1998 Rage 15 which has been imported to Ireland from the States.It would be my first boat. I intend to use it as a general fun boat with the kids and also for fishing. From reading different topics on this site there are a lot of very different points so view regarding the Jet boat option and handleing.Also, i am uncertain about the availability of spare parts etc. Any help in making the deceision would be appriciated....

bsmotril posted 02-27-2006 03:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
A lot will depend on which engine is in the boat. There were two different options at various times, an OMC 115 hp jet, or a Merc 175hp jet. The OMCs have a history of problems (from what I've read on this site), and the Merc's have a better history. You may want to search old threads for "Sportjet" or "OMC Jet" or "Rage" to get more information. BillS
gerryb posted 02-27-2006 06:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for gerryb  Send Email to gerryb     
Thanks Guys,

the Rage 15 that I'm looking buying has a Merc 175hp jet with about 115 hours on the clock.

tuna1 posted 02-27-2006 07:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for tuna1  Send Email to tuna1     
Check the oil drive for the oil injection system.The Mercury 175 Sport Jet has a problem with the plastic gear attached to the crankshaft it drives a metal worm gear shaft that drives the oil injection pump.There is a bushing that lies between the shaft and the oil pump,that connects them- that swells and creates too much of a load and strips teeth from the plastic crankshaft gear.Mercury had a recall to replace the bushing with a smaller size one.Both my 175 Sport Jet Rages did not have the recall work done.One had the engine replaced under warrenty and did not have the parts replaced and stripped the crankshaft gear again.Also jet the impeller and stator for damage.
tuna1 posted 02-27-2006 07:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for tuna1  Send Email to tuna1     
Thats check the jet drive impeller and stator for damage.Check the clearance between the impeler's tips and the ID (inside diameter)of the wear ring,It should be under 0.050".Those 3 parts are app. $1500.00 in the states and are commonly damaged by misuse.
gerryb posted 02-28-2006 08:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for gerryb  Send Email to gerryb     
Thanks Tuna1,

Now I know why they that buying your first boat is the "best day of your life and the worst day of life", so many pitfalls. I'v no machcanical experence, so I would need to get someone to check these things out. Do you think I would do better to consider a boat with an outboard insted of the Jet.

tuna1 posted 02-28-2006 09:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for tuna1  Send Email to tuna1     
No, i have 2 of the Sport Jet Rages.I now prefer a jet for for the things it can do that any other drive system can't and there is no going back for me.It's just like everything else in life,there is no one thing that does everything,and life is about compromize.I will not go back,to outboards for what i use the Rages for.But then again i have a 25' Mako with twin outboards for offshore fishing.
gerryb posted 02-28-2006 12:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for gerryb  Send Email to gerryb     
I had this respose from the dealer selling the boat which refers the work he had done since inporting it from the States on foot of advice from the seller over there.

"the plastic worm gear on the crankshaft and drive bushen was replaced on the engine, after I bought it by a local mechanic. Some people just mix the oil & fuel when being filled, which is a better idea with all 2-strokes as oil mixing systems can give lots of bother on all models.

As regards the impeller wear, I do not know! It runs fine and there are only approx 115 hours on the system. The water pressure was checked and is fine, so all should be ok."

What do you think ??

tuna1 posted 02-28-2006 06:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for tuna1  Send Email to tuna1     
Again you need to do the things i stated to do!!!!!

I have now over $14,000.00 in my first one because i trusted,did not know,and paid the price the hard way(i did all the work myself)and it was purchased from the Largest Boston Whaler dealer in the northeast states,if not all of the USA.

But,I still went and purchased another from a private party,As Is - after i learned the facts-the HARD Way!!!I went to many dealers and found they had the Old /Wrong parts in stock and were not aware of it!!!! Sport Jets are a rare breed,Dealers that know anything about them evan rarer.Best to get and read the manuals so you know about them yourself.Email me for a online copy of the manual.

Dealers/Stealers,need i say any more.There all horse traders and we are horse's asses if we beleive what they tell us ! Oh,Yeah i NOW get free tickets from the dealer to the Boston boat shows if i ask for them !!!,but not worth the price I paid for them!!!,SURE Do Wish someone had clued me in at the time!!!!!

gerryb posted 03-01-2006 05:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for gerryb  Send Email to gerryb     
Thanks for the offer of the online manual, please send it on to me. I had a test drive in the boat today, very enjoyable, seems to be very clean and supplied with 3 covers incl consol and Full cover. As I have no other recourse for support I think I will just have to take a leap of faith and buy it.!!??

tuna1 posted 03-02-2006 10:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for tuna1  Send Email to tuna1     
AGAIN,your not following what i am trying to get across!

A jet's pump efficiency is base on the Condition of pieces that make it up.The only real way to check them is to remove the parts and examine them.If this is not done,your leaving yourself open for a BIG/Costly Surprize.

Any knowledgeable jet drive preson knows this,and must examine these parts;impeller,wear ring,stator,and the oil in both the stator and the right angle input gearcase-and their oil seals.If the seals are damaged in the gearbor,the engine/drive must be removed from the hull to repair the condition.

You must have the jet inspected by a knowledgeable person,it can be yourself,if it's all apart so you can view them-before you purchase the boat!!!!

gerryb posted 03-04-2006 06:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for gerryb  Send Email to gerryb     
I now have the advice of a local mechanic who is capable of stripping down and rebuilding an engine, so I should be able to check things out fully. Can I get a copy of the online manual.
Many Thanks Tuna1 for your help.
gerryb posted 03-07-2006 11:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for gerryb  Send Email to gerryb     
I would really appricate a copy of the Rage 15 manual, if it could be emailed to me.

Thanks, Gerry.

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