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Royboy posted 04-25-2006 05:15 PM ET (US)   Profile for Royboy   Send Email to Royboy  
I assume the washdown pump would have to be in the fish box in the deck because that's where the through hull is. How did they do it as an option from the dealer on a 17 foot Outrage II? What pump was typical?

Roy

aubv posted 04-25-2006 06:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Royboy,

I'm not sure but I think one of the rear quarter seats may have been the location for the live well on the 17' Outrgae II.

Royboy posted 04-25-2006 07:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Both of the aft quarter seats have drains, but they're above the waterline, albiet slightly. I guess I was assuming that a washdown pump would want its intake below the waterline. Same for a livewell pump come to think of it. Did they install an elbow outside the hull to reach the water? Doesn't seem quite right.

Roy

Mambo Minnow posted 04-25-2006 07:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mambo Minnow    
I have a 21' with freshwater washdown from a 20 gallon onboard tank. The hose line is also tied in to the livewell, which has a intake strainer on port quarter bottom of the hull. Internal plumbing there is a cutoff valve to isolate if required/desired.

Perhaps something similar on your smaller boat of same vintage.

aubv posted 04-25-2006 09:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Royboy,

I went back and check the catalog. It appears that the live well was in the Super leaning post, which was an option.

I may have a spare set of catalogs for your 17 Outrage II if you need them. Did you get a copy of the wood location diagram with your boat?

A fellow 130 Sport and 17 Outrage II owner.

Royboy posted 04-25-2006 09:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
aubv, I have a copy of the wood locating diagram from the Whaler website. I'm not terribly interested in a live well, since I mostly fish for walleyes and they get the bat and an ice bath when they come aboard. What I'm trying to find is how to rig a raw water washdown so I can spray down my deck to rinse off the fish blood before I come in.

In my 130, I just doused the deck with a bucket, and then pumped it out with the bilge pump. But now that I'm in an Outrage, I want something a bit more civilized.

Roy

aubv posted 04-25-2006 10:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Royboy,

Sorry, about my confusion. Many boats use one pump both for the raw water wash down and the live well. The flow is controlled by a Y-valve. You could put a Y valve on the discharge side of the pump located at the bottom of the in deck storage locker. However, this would not solve the pickup problem, you would have to pull the plug.

Personally, a bucket still works for me as I hate wrestling with a hose and it always seems to be in the way.
fwiw

tmatt posted 04-26-2006 09:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for tmatt  Send Email to tmatt     
I was doing some work on my Dauntless 18 and took a look at the raw-water washdown plumbing because a buddy of mine is thinking about installing one. Maybe this will give you some ideas.

My water supply is from a port on the livewell pump, on the intake side. I think there is a knockout or port there. The water line then runs to the washdown pump which has a pressure switch. (It only runs when I'm spraying water, then cuts off when the water demand stops.)

The pump itself is mounted below deck on my starboard side, just ahead of the transom. From there it is a short run to the hose-port in my engine well.

Maybe whalerparts.com shows the layout for a washdown pump on your whaler.

I've seen washdown pumps with the pressure switch for ~$100.00US at various marine stores.

Regards,
tmatt.

Royboy posted 04-26-2006 04:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Matt, Now we're getting somewhere. You said:

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The pump itself is mounted below deck on my starboard side, just ahead of the transom. From there it is a short run to the hose-port in my engine well

I'm a little confused as to the location of the pump; is it in the splash well?

Roy

DBOutrage17 posted 04-26-2006 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for DBOutrage17  Send Email to DBOutrage17     
Royboy,

I have a 1996 Outrage 17II and have the original brochure from back then. Looking at the options listed, the fishbox pumpout was not offered on the 17, if that's what you are looking for. However, it also said that the bilge pump was in the storage locker. So what's the difference between a fishbox and storage locker on the 17 is one question that remains.

The fiberglass leaning post with livewell and washdown was an option as well as a 11 gallon fresh water shower.

Where they put this stuff, I don't know but according to my brochure, that's what was available.

Good luck with the boat this summer.

Royboy posted 04-26-2006 09:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
Thanks DB,

My bilge pump is in my storage locker, otherwise known as the fishbox in the deck. I wonder if models with the Super Leaning Post had an additional through-hull? I'm guessing they must have.

I'm going to pay closer attention to the proximity of the vaiours drains to the waterline next time out to see if there are options for a pick-up for a splashwell mounted washdown/livewell pump.

Roy

tmatt posted 04-27-2006 09:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for tmatt  Send Email to tmatt     
Ponyboy,

On the dauntless, my raw-water washdown hose-bib is located in the engine spash-well. It's a SS male hose connector with a SS cap when not in use.

The pump itself is below deck. The dauntless has a hatch on the starboard/aft. The battery, my trim-tab pump, and other various wiring is located down there. (The hatch on the port side, accross the splash-well is my livewell).

I suspect, if you have a livewell, you can take water off the input side (toward the pickup) and run it to wherever you want to mount the pump. Then plumb it to where you want the hose hook-up.

You should be able to find a drawing of the option on whalerparts.com.

HTH

Regards,
tmatt.

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