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GreatBayNH posted 06-13-2006 09:35 PM ET (US)
I bought a new 2006 170 Montauk in April 2006. I noticed that my bi-color navigation lamp has condensation inside the lens after washing, after rain, or after using the boat. Is this normal?
I tested my navigation lights today for the first time in a couple weeks. I get nothing. They worked just fine before. The anchor light works fine. I'm hopping it's the just the bulb. Is the bulb an easy replacement or should I call the dealer and have them look into it since I just bought the boat? Is this something I should get used to as a boat owner?
Thanks!
Barney posted 06-13-2006 09:53 PM ET (US)
This is a common problem:
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001769.html
Several threads in the Post-Classic section.
Mine will light back up by pushing down of the plastic globe. I also use O-ring lube on the seal:
http://www.123ponds.com/plumbing-supplies-o-ring-lube.html
Jim
jimh posted 06-13-2006 10:17 PM ET (US)
I would read your warranty to see if there is coverage against burned out electrical lightbulbs. Boston Whaler does cover the hull for ten years, but I don't know if they cover lightbulbs for ten years.
If the lamp fixture is leaking, and water is getting inside the lamp and corroding the electrical components, that is definitely a problem that should be fixed.
HawaiianWhaler posted 06-13-2006 11:41 PM ET (US)
Here's another continuouswave thread that may have bearing on your problem: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000850.html
bigjohn1 posted 06-14-2006 09:14 AM ET (US)
GreatBay, I had the same problem on my '05 model. I cured it by removing the round metal cover (3 small screws), then removing the bi-color plastic lense. I treated the bulb and contacts with dielectric grease and also applied some grease to the o-ring on the lense. I still had intermitent problems so disassembled it all again and found the problem was the metal cover did not "push down" on the bi-color lense with enough pressure to ensure good electrical contact between the bulb and the lense (there are very small metal contacts in the top of the lense).
I cut a small rubber spacer out of tire intertube and placed it in between the metal cover and the top of the lense. This fixed it and I have had no further problems. The design of the bow light is not that high-end but it should be an easy fix. If course if your bulb is blown replace it but I am betting its just losing electrical contact.
GreatBayNH posted 06-14-2006 08:20 PM ET (US)
I tested the bulb with a 9V battery - it worked fine.
I unscrewed the cover and lens and dried off all the connections as best I could. No luck. I tried to push down on the lens cover to see if I could force a better connection. Still no luck.

I broke out my volt meter to see if there is even a current making it to the bow. Too bad my volt meter was broken.
I'll have to try all your excellent advice tomorrow when the sun comes back up.
Thanks for all your postings. Once I have the wires tested for current I'll have plenty to try. Thank you!!
-Seth
GreatBayNH posted 06-16-2006 08:01 AM ET (US)
I called the dealer. They will take a look at it.
Until then...
I tried to get the bulb going by taking the wires out of the sockets and touching them directly to the bulb, no light. I'm pretty sure no juice is making it to the bow. The fuse on the console has not popped. Is there another fuse in the console I have blown? I don't understand how such a dumb piece of equipment could fail on a new boat after a few weeks of use. I'll have a short list of issues for the dealer.
1) Bow light issue
2) Marks on hull under the transom that resembles missing gell coat/wear possibly from factory or marina removal of shrink wrap?.
3) Paint chip off the new Merc.
4) Weather stripping loose on center console behind the cooler seat.
5) Intermittent use of trailer port side lights. They seem to work only when wet. ??
Barney posted 06-16-2006 08:52 AM ET (US)
Try the switch, mine was getting hung up and would not allow current. You may have to adjust the switch install in the console. Jim
Chuck Tribolet posted 06-16-2006 08:54 AM ET (US)
Check the connections on the back of the switch.

Chuck
Barney posted 06-16-2006 09:12 AM ET (US)
As far as the trailer lights. Oh bad ground connection at the trailer lights themselves. jim
GreatBayNH posted 06-16-2006 11:16 AM ET (US)
UPDATE:
I called the dealer and setup an appointment to go over my "squawk list". They seemed very eager to take care of these issues ASAP and expressed great interest in "making it right". I have warm and fuzzies all over. I'll let y'all know how it turns out. The boat goes in Tuesday.
-Seth
GreatBayNH posted 06-20-2006 09:29 PM ET (US)
Update:
RE: Scuffs on hull
I took the boat to the dealer today. They said it looked like paint that may have been on the lifting hoist straps when they took my boat out of the water prior to delivery. They are cleaning it as we speak.
RE: Bow Lamp
The bow lamp is being fixed as well as the loose molding around the bottom of the center console.
As long as I don't see a bill when I pick her up I'm happy.
-Seth
GreatBayNH posted 06-22-2006 08:34 PM ET (US)
UPDATE:
Picked up the boat today. All squak points resolved. No bill. Happy camper!
-Seth
TSouchek posted 07-11-2006 09:26 AM ET (US)
Thanks BigJohn1, I have a 2005 also and ran into the same problem. Tried your fix and it worked like a charm!!
divefan posted 07-11-2006 01:40 PM ET (US)
Ditto what bigjJohn1 says on my 2004 170.

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Author	Topic: 2006 170 Montauk Navigation Lamp Not Burning
GreatBayNH	posted 06-13-2006 09:35 PM ET (US) I bought a new 2006 170 Montauk in April 2006. I noticed that my bi-color navigation lamp has condensation inside the lens after washing, after rain, or after using the boat. Is this normal? I tested my navigation lights today for the first time in a couple weeks. I get nothing. They worked just fine before. The anchor light works fine. I'm hopping it's the just the bulb. Is the bulb an easy replacement or should I call the dealer and have them look into it since I just bought the boat? Is this something I should get used to as a boat owner? Thanks!
Barney	posted 06-13-2006 09:53 PM ET (US) This is a common problem: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001769.html Several threads in the Post-Classic section. Mine will light back up by pushing down of the plastic globe. I also use O-ring lube on the seal: http://www.123ponds.com/plumbing-supplies-o-ring-lube.html Jim
jimh	posted 06-13-2006 10:17 PM ET (US) I would read your warranty to see if there is coverage against burned out electrical lightbulbs. Boston Whaler does cover the hull for ten years, but I don't know if they cover lightbulbs for ten years. If the lamp fixture is leaking, and water is getting inside the lamp and corroding the electrical components, that is definitely a problem that should be fixed.
HawaiianWhaler	posted 06-13-2006 11:41 PM ET (US) Here's another continuouswave thread that may have bearing on your problem: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000850.html
bigjohn1	posted 06-14-2006 09:14 AM ET (US) GreatBay, I had the same problem on my '05 model. I cured it by removing the round metal cover (3 small screws), then removing the bi-color plastic lense. I treated the bulb and contacts with dielectric grease and also applied some grease to the o-ring on the lense. I still had intermitent problems so disassembled it all again and found the problem was the metal cover did not "push down" on the bi-color lense with enough pressure to ensure good electrical contact between the bulb and the lense (there are very small metal contacts in the top of the lense). I cut a small rubber spacer out of tire intertube and placed it in between the metal cover and the top of the lense. This fixed it and I have had no further problems. The design of the bow light is not that high-end but it should be an easy fix. If course if your bulb is blown replace it but I am betting its just losing electrical contact.
GreatBayNH	posted 06-14-2006 08:20 PM ET (US) I tested the bulb with a 9V battery - it worked fine. I unscrewed the cover and lens and dried off all the connections as best I could. No luck. I tried to push down on the lens cover to see if I could force a better connection. Still no luck. I broke out my volt meter to see if there is even a current making it to the bow. Too bad my volt meter was broken. I'll have to try all your excellent advice tomorrow when the sun comes back up. Thanks for all your postings. Once I have the wires tested for current I'll have plenty to try. Thank you!! -Seth
GreatBayNH	posted 06-16-2006 08:01 AM ET (US) I called the dealer. They will take a look at it. Until then... I tried to get the bulb going by taking the wires out of the sockets and touching them directly to the bulb, no light. I'm pretty sure no juice is making it to the bow. The fuse on the console has not popped. Is there another fuse in the console I have blown? I don't understand how such a dumb piece of equipment could fail on a new boat after a few weeks of use. I'll have a short list of issues for the dealer. 1) Bow light issue 2) Marks on hull under the transom that resembles missing gell coat/wear possibly from factory or marina removal of shrink wrap?. 3) Paint chip off the new Merc. 4) Weather stripping loose on center console behind the cooler seat. 5) Intermittent use of trailer port side lights. They seem to work only when wet. ??
Barney	posted 06-16-2006 08:52 AM ET (US) Try the switch, mine was getting hung up and would not allow current. You may have to adjust the switch install in the console. Jim
Chuck Tribolet	posted 06-16-2006 08:54 AM ET (US) Check the connections on the back of the switch. Chuck
Barney	posted 06-16-2006 09:12 AM ET (US) As far as the trailer lights. Oh bad ground connection at the trailer lights themselves. jim
GreatBayNH	posted 06-16-2006 11:16 AM ET (US) UPDATE: I called the dealer and setup an appointment to go over my "squawk list". They seemed very eager to take care of these issues ASAP and expressed great interest in "making it right". I have warm and fuzzies all over. I'll let y'all know how it turns out. The boat goes in Tuesday. -Seth
GreatBayNH	posted 06-20-2006 09:29 PM ET (US) Update: RE: Scuffs on hull I took the boat to the dealer today. They said it looked like paint that may have been on the lifting hoist straps when they took my boat out of the water prior to delivery. They are cleaning it as we speak. RE: Bow Lamp The bow lamp is being fixed as well as the loose molding around the bottom of the center console. As long as I don't see a bill when I pick her up I'm happy. -Seth
GreatBayNH	posted 06-22-2006 08:34 PM ET (US) UPDATE: Picked up the boat today. All squak points resolved. No bill. Happy camper! -Seth
TSouchek	posted 07-11-2006 09:26 AM ET (US) Thanks BigJohn1, I have a 2005 also and ran into the same problem. Tried your fix and it worked like a charm!!
divefan	posted 07-11-2006 01:40 PM ET (US) Ditto what bigjJohn1 says on my 2004 170.