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Sheepscot Sailor posted 06-15-2006 03:18 PM ET (US)   Profile for Sheepscot Sailor   Send Email to Sheepscot Sailor  
I am looking for advice on the best small, easy-to-trailer Whaler to be used primarily near Boothbay Harbor in Maine, but also to explore other parts of the New England coast/lakes/rivers.

Important qualities:

Seaworthy, dry in chop, comfortable for wife and 2 daughters

Not important:

Speed, fishing, going offshore.

Likely candidates seem to be Ventura 16, Dauntless 17, and Montauk 17. Maybe a Montauk/Sport 15, but I am concerned they would be small for the load/weather.

The Ventura and Dauntless seem very similar - is there anyone out there who has tried both and can give some guidance on the differences?

gorji posted 06-15-2006 06:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for gorji  Send Email to gorji     
Hi:

Welcome to the forum.
I would go wtih a Montauk 170 or Dauntless. But its really a personal choice.

Gorji

Casco Bay Outrage posted 06-15-2006 06:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Casco Bay Outrage  Send Email to Casco Bay Outrage     
I had a 1987 Montauk and now run a 1991 Outrage 17 in Casco Bay. Boat is trailered 100% and I do several trips to Piscat and Merrimack Rivers as well as Lake Winn in NH with guys on this board.

Given what you don't fish (I don't either) have kids, don't fish etc., I would look hard at a Dauntless 180 or Montauk 170.

With 2 kids, I would not go for 16' boat. You will soon outgrow it. Both the Montauk and Dauntless have a great bow area, mid ship and rear seats.

Both are -

-easy to trailer and launch/retrieve yourself.
-Do not require a huge tow vehicle.
-good ride in most conditions, lakes and near shore.
-not a ton of HP necessary.

Just one opinion.

jbtaz posted 06-16-2006 06:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for jbtaz  Send Email to jbtaz     
190 Outrage is a great boat!
YorkHarbor posted 06-16-2006 10:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for YorkHarbor  Send Email to YorkHarbor     
I have run a classic 13 sport, 16 dauntless, and now a 21 foot outrage. The 16 was more than ocean worthy and was very well setup. However CascoBay is correct, our family of four quickly outgrew it. I would suggest the 17 foot montauk or the 18 foot dauntless if possible.
Dave Barnard posted 06-17-2006 11:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dave Barnard  Send Email to Dave Barnard     
I boat in Casco Bay and have run the ICW from Morehead City, NC to Southwest Harbor, ME in my 1987 17' Montauk with a 50 Honda. CB does not allow many opportunities for water skiing due to rough water. At 18 to 20 Knots I am comfortable, burning about 2 gal/hr and can tow it with my Toyota Camry easily.

You can buy bigger, the new Montauk 17' has a flatter bottom than the classic models and is harder riding. None of the Whalers will right like a Cat or a Seacraft. But you can do allot of things with the boat just up on a plane and working the water.

Good luck.

aubv posted 06-18-2006 08:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Sheepscot Sailor,

Not sure if you are looking at used boats but the 1995-1998 17' Outrage w/a RPS might fit your requirements. Very sea worthy boat, with storage and built in fuel tank.

fwiw

15ss posted 06-20-2006 08:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for 15ss    
1996-1999 17 outrage II/ w/ 150 hp.
Sheepscot Sailor posted 06-21-2006 10:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sheepscot Sailor  Send Email to Sheepscot Sailor     
Thanks for all the tips.

I am pretty focused on boats in the 16-17 range for the ease of trailering and so my wife can be comfortable taking it out without me. On days when we outgrow this boat we have access to a 27' lobsterboat style inboard (nice to have retired parents) plus a smattering of sailboat options.

My concerns with the Montauk are the rough/wet ride and the lack of good seating. Is the Dauntless drier than the Montauk, even forward of the windshield? Has anyone found creative ways to seat kids in the Montauk?

DoTheMath posted 06-21-2006 01:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for DoTheMath  Send Email to DoTheMath     
I have a 2006 170 Montauk w/ the 90hp 4S and I love it. I bought it as a second boat, primarily to get my wife comfortable with handling a boat and something to just tool around in and have some fun with. We have a house on a big lake in NH, and it stays in the water at the house all season. With a 14mo. old, I wanted a boat that was safe, dry that he could go out in, and easy for her to use and learn on. The 170 gives a dry (and soft) ride, and I've had it out in some sloppy water, it has good seating all-around including forward of the helm, and is a snap to manuver. It is great to have it set up as a package with the trailer and it will fit in the garage for storage, off-season. I would go for the 170 without question as I feel for the money, it is a great value.
BKANE posted 06-25-2006 03:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for BKANE  Send Email to BKANE     
Sheepscott , I live in Boothbay Harbor and if you look around its hard not to see Montauk's galore around the area. I had a 1992 17' Outrage for a couple years and was very happy with it. I have a 20 ft' Outrage now. There are time that I miss the 17 for its ease of trailering, fuel ect. But the family grew and so did the boat. Frome what you say I would look for the Outrage as it is perhaps a drier ride in the chop. Good luck
BKANE
PeteB88 posted 07-03-2006 12:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for PeteB88  Send Email to PeteB88     
17 - 18 Outrage is one sweet boat. For trailering alot we are heading for a Montauk - Outrage would be second choice that size.

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