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cschorer1979 posted 06-24-2006 08:05 AM ET (US)   Profile for cschorer1979   Send Email to cschorer1979  
Well everyone, I'm posting to let everyone know that there is yet another livewell failure to report. I was out last week in my brand new 2006 190 Outrage fishing for stripers. I had a few live Macks in the livewell when hear what sounds like the heavy flow of rushing water. I look into my livewell and see that the bottom pump has totally collapsed..with the the final bit of water rushing into the bildge and one lonley mack flopping around gasping for air.

This freaked me out as I was a few miles out, but the bildge luckily pumped all the water out and I headed back into port.

First off, I will say that the boat has been fantastic thus far, but this is a MAJOR issue! Outrage/Nantucket owners have been reporting this to Whaler as a major issue for atleast 2-3 years now and it seems that Whaler has not addressed it "until" it becomes a problem.

I called my Boston Whaler dealer to explain the problem and I have to take my boat out of the water and keep it in the shop for atleast two weeks.

I know things like this happen, but it just upsets me that with this being my first boat I have come across a problem that should have been addressed awhile ago and Boston Whaler has done nothing about it.

Here in New England we have a short enough boating season as it is, does anyone have any suggestions for a quick fix I might be able to do myself? Maybe I plug the hole with a stopper of some sort?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Craig Schorer

Yiddil posted 06-24-2006 10:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I have a 2004, but have as of yet not experienced the agony as I don't use my live well much at all. The Boston Whaler boat dealer here in Maryland said if it ain't broke, they won't fix it. I was startled. So there is no recall. Just bring it if it breaks, huh? That is not a good way to do business, but I can't imagine, short of a break, that Boston Whaler wants to do anything with it. What is the fix? I can't recall. I love my whaler, but customer service is more important than anything. If I dont get that, I don't need the that model boat. My guys at Whalertown in Maryland are pretty good with customer service and being helpful. They are just busy and sometimes things take a while.

I agree that it should be a recll issue for Boston WHaler..Yikes 2 weeks! I just finished waiting two weeks for a sand blasting, prep and re-painting!

GeneNJ posted 06-24-2006 09:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for GeneNJ  Send Email to GeneNJ     
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fishgutz posted 06-25-2006 04:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for fishgutz  Send Email to fishgutz     
If your livewell is anything like the one on my Dauntless I can see how it would fail. Mine hasn't...yet. I can see replacing it someday, though. When they made it I don't believe they used any woven fiberglass. It is just gelcoat and glass from a chopper gun. Very weak, thin and cheap construction.

I bought mine from Whaler and installed it myself. I was surprised how thin the glass was when I drilled the holes for the fill and the drain. I'm guessing the first failure will be the fiberglass around the drain.

I'm lucky (unlucky) though. I never catch big fish. Dang! I usually use the livewell just for panfish and bait.

highanddry posted 06-25-2006 04:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Maybe the smart thing would be to add some glass now before it breaks. It might be possible to add several layers of glass to the inside thus making the repair much easier by removing the gell coat and applying the glass to the known weak areas.
Royboy posted 06-25-2006 05:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
What is meant by:

I look into my livewell and see that the bottom pump has totally collapsed..with the the final bit of water rushing into the bildge and one lonley mack flopping around gasping for air.

How exactly does a pump collapse? Do you mean that whatever the pump was attached to broke in some way?

If you can describe the problem better, perhaps someone here can help you deal with it. Where's Jimh and his [brackets] when we need him?


nydealer posted 06-25-2006 06:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for nydealer  Send Email to nydealer     
There have been two different types of Livewell failures that I know of(although I have not seen any on ours). Some of the first Nantuckets off the line only had the livewell bonded to the upper portion of the Seat shell. These were not screwed in. Whaler made a running change and started screwing them in. The latest as I understand it is where the drain attaches into the bottom of the shell. The drain has broken, allowing water to dump into the bilge. To fix/Reinforce this, the floor and seat base from splashwell to console has to be lifted out of the boat.
Marsh posted 06-27-2006 03:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marsh  Send Email to Marsh     
I can remember the time when Boston Whaler boats were over-engineered.

Are those days gone forever? Are Whalers of the future destined to be indistinguishable from GW or Mako (or even Bayliner)?


Mobjack posted 06-27-2006 06:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mobjack  Send Email to Mobjack     
by the look of things that is exactly the way we are heading
highanddry posted 06-28-2006 03:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
cschoer1976,you do have a choice, turn the valve handles to the off position and do without the live well until the boating season is over. You can still use it for dry storage.

This is a typical complaint thread that is legit that is now becoming just another bash the Nantucket thread by people who don't know anything. Hell, their Nontauks don't even have a live well to fail!

You can get your livewell repaired later and really, I know what the fellow said but I think I would rework mine from the inside out, remove the gell coat and reglass the interior and then apply a gell coat. Of course it would be easier with the tank removed so just wait until winter when the dealer is not busy and needs the work. Don't worry,it will be OK.

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