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Jimm posted 07-15-2006 07:11 PM ET (US)   Profile for Jimm  
I was wondering if anyone has owned both Montauk hull configurations and if so what differences diddo you see in ride, space, manuerability, etc.
Chuck Tribolet posted 07-15-2006 11:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
While I've only owned the 16' 7" Montuak, I've spent a fair
amount of time on a buddy's 170.

Ride: 170 is a bit better in chop.
Space: a wash. The 170 is bigger on the outside, but has
thicker sides.
Manueverabily: A wash.
Gas mileage: His four stroke and my carbed two-stroke get
about the same gas mileage (several 90 mile trips together),
so the class gets better gas mileage.
Speed: the class is just a touch (< 1 knot) faster with the
engines above.
Size: The classic fits in my garage. The 170 would not.
That's a show-stopper for me.


Chuck

erik selis posted 07-16-2006 04:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Jimm,

I own a 170 Montauk (almost 4 years now) and I have restored a 17-ft Guardian. I also restored and briefly owned a 1984 17-ft Montauk.

17-ft Guardian:(same hull as the classic Montauk)

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/erik069/Guardian%20Restoration/

1984 Montauk

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/erik069/ 1984%20Montauk%20Restoration/

I have spent many hours on all of these boats and have found the following:

The 170 Montauk has quite alot more inside room. Yes the sides are thicker but the rails are mounted on the gunnels. This gives you the more room than in the classic Montauk.
The console of the classic is higher and wider. This gives a better feel than the (too) low console of the 170. However, the wider console also restricts your passage to the front of the boat in the classic. The 170 also has a higher freeboard. About 2-inches when docked beside each other.

The 170 Montauk has a softer and drier ride, no doubt. They both handle about the same at speed but the classic Montauk is less sensitive to side winds and is easier to manoeuvre at slow speeds (docking). At higher speeds the 170 Montauk pounds much less than the classic. This is a major difference IMO.

Performance is totally dependant on the type of engine, props, set-up... on both boats.

I.E.: I have the classic 90-hp ELPTO, 2-stroke Mercury on my 170 Montauk. It has a 21-P alu prop. My boat runs exactly the same speed as the 1984 Classic Montauk that has a E-TEC 90 on her with a 17-P alu prop. Approx 42 MPH with approx. the same load. Both at WOT (although we both say we have some throttle left over when racing each other :-) )
The 17-ft Guardian has the 70-hp Suzuki DF70 on her. It's a great engine, very quiet and efficient. Although it takes a very long time to get on plane compared to the others. To me it is a rather heavy engine for this boat but that's just my opinion. Others here are very pleased with the DF70 on a Montauk hull. I guess it's just a matter of opinion.

Hope this helps.

Erik

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