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Conquest 205 Hull design
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posted 07-24-2006 01:41 PM ET (US)
I tested a Conquest 205 on an inland lake. I am considering an upgrade the to 205 or Outrage 21.
I like to fish Lake Michigan. My Dauntless 18 is stable but the ride is not comfortable. Even at lower speeds, the ride can be pounding.
I cannot determine if I will be ok with the Eastport 205 or should I only consider the Outrage?
Your feedback is appreciated.
posted 07-24-2006 05:07 PM ET (US)
Compare the deadrise angle - that is going to have the biggest impact.
posted 07-24-2006 06:51 PM ET (US)
What is the deadrise angle?
Where will i find the specs?
posted 07-24-2006 07:06 PM ET (US)
Boston Whaler says in their literature that the Dauntless and Conquests share the same hull entry design. The 205 should get you more stability with its additional length, but I think the dead-rise should be similar (Whaler doesn't publish any spec for dead-rise). The Outrage will have a deeper V and will accommodate rough water well.
As for a pounding ride, I found my Outrage 17 to be troublesome in 1-2 foot chop until I raised the engine 2 holes. That lowered the planing speed and gave me more trim range and better handling.
posted 07-24-2006 07:13 PM ET (US)
Boston Whaler makes two style of hulls, Twin Sponson disign (stable) for the 11 ft. sport thru 17 ft Montauk, then the Accurack Deep-V hulls for the Dauntles-Ventura-Outrage-Conquest modles. To get a soft ride in the your Dauntles try lowering the bow and run at a speed thats comfortable.
posted 07-24-2006 07:50 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the responses.
I will check the engine height and maybe I will move it up one if possible.
I did a search on the Eastport deadrise. A forum posting regarding the 12/2004 article in Boating written by Larry Rudow claims the deadrise is 20 degrees.
My Dauntless will plane at a relatively low speeds and seems to ride better when loaded.
I too noted the Whaler page about the Dauntless and Conquest hulls being the same or similar.
Not sure what action I will take. Wife wants the cuddy. Few opportunities when the wife wants the same new toy. I am choking on the cash price of the conquest with desired options.
posted 07-24-2006 08:33 PM ET (US)
David, you might also wish to look for a 21 Conquest from the 1999-2000 time frame. The price should be quite favorable compared to a new 205 Eastport/Conquest.
I checked out an Eastport last fall, and found that the cuddy cabin really wasn't quite big enough for me (I'm about 6'1"). Other than that, it looked like quite the nice boat.
posted 07-24-2006 10:27 PM ET (US)
I have seen several reviews that state the transom deadrise is 18 degrees.
posted 07-25-2006 12:25 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the information.
18 degree deadrise. I don't understand what deadrise is or how that number is an indication of performance. I will do a search on it and compare to my 2001 Dauntless 18.
My 135 Opti is mounted in the middle hole. I could move it up two which might help get the bow down.
Still considering Eastport. Dealer claims canvas pricing/options escalated 30% from 2005 to 2006. I am looking at other dealers. What is a good price for this boat with 200 optimax?
posted 07-25-2006 03:39 PM ET (US)
Well, it is a done deal. Dealer sharpened pricing a bit and I had to take it. On the payment plan......
Eastport 205 with 200 Optimax. Dealer changed EZloader to a Karavan trailer, model 5000-SB-78-10-ST. Not sure that makes much difference or not.
Thanks for the postings/information.
posted 07-25-2006 03:45 PM ET (US)
Short answer -- deadrise is the angle of the hull bottom, measured from the centerline to the chine with respect to horizontal. In other words, the larger the deadrise angle, the deeper the V-bottom of the boat.
Larger deadrise angles improve the ride in chop, at the expense of requiring more power to plane and reducing stability in roll.
Congratulations on your purchase!
posted 07-25-2006 03:54 PM ET (US)
I think the eastport deadrise is around 18 or 20, not sure which.
I believe it will ride better than the 18 Dauntless.
posted 07-26-2006 11:44 AM ET (US)
When comparing to the Dauntless, lets not forget about the weight of the boat. The Dauntless is lighter than the boats you are comparing it to....thus another reason why it will not handle the chop as well.
I would go with the Conquest.
posted 07-26-2006 12:04 PM ET (US)
Pick up the new baot tomorrow. Excited to try it out.
Dealer gave $3k less for my trade than I paid for it 5 years ago. Makes me feel better about price tag of this boat.
posted 08-08-2006 03:52 PM ET (US)
Boat rides well. 200HP Merc Optimax motor has been nothing but grief. Twin Cities Marine or BW did not rig oil lines correctly.
posted 08-08-2006 08:59 PM ET (US)
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posted 08-17-2006 06:46 PM ET (US)
Eastport Hull definitely outperforms the Daunt 18 on Lake Michigan (ride, comfort).
With 200 Opti, flat water, 2 persons, 40 gallons, rig will do about 52.
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