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wbullwin posted 08-07-2006 01:13 PM ET (US)
I just purchased a 2003 170 Montauk from a non-Whaler dealer. They aren't much help explaining the features. I did talk to one dealer a while ago when I was out looking and he said if I leave the boat in the water uncovered, to pull the main drain plug in the hull and let it float with a little water in it. He said it would only come up to the top of the resevoir and not come any higher because of the foam in the hull. That way, if it rains, it will run right out.
I tried this on Saturday during my first time out on a Whaler. By the way, the 170 was great. As soon as I pulled the plug and the water came in, the bilge pump came on. (At least I found out it works) No matter what I did with the switch, I could not make it stop pumping. Even "OFF", it still ran.
Was I told wrong? Or is there a way to rewire the pump to really turn the it off?
Jimm posted 08-07-2006 04:50 PM ET (US)
The switch on the console is a 3 position switch -
Top is ON always
Middle is AUTOMATIC (pumps when water level in bildge reaches a certain height and the automatically turns off and goes to sleep until again needed.
Bottom is always OFF.
bigjohn1 posted 08-07-2006 05:25 PM ET (US)
Yep, something is not right, if the switch is in the lowermost position, the pump should not come on at all.
jimh posted 08-08-2006 09:04 PM ET (US)
[This article was originally posted to THE GAM but has been moved to this discussion area because this discussion area is specifically designed to discuss this topic.]
swist posted 08-12-2006 08:04 AM ET (US)
I'm on a mooring all Summer. I don't pull the plug. I don't need saltwater crud accumulating in the rear of the boat. The bilge pump works fine to keep the boat dry, even if unattended for several days of heavy rain.
nydealer posted 08-12-2006 09:26 PM ET (US)
On the 170 Montauk you do not need to pull the plug. With the auto bilge it keeps the boat cleared out. If it is left for an extended period with a lot of rain it may run the battery dead. Pulling the plug while on mooring is helpful for the 130/150 without a bilge area.
swist posted 08-13-2006 08:45 PM ET (US)
"Extended period" seems to be pretty extended. We have had tons of rain in the NE this Summer - my 170 has been unattended on a mooring for up to a week during which there were 6-8" of rain. If you can believe the voltmeter, the battery hardly noticed (it was still at about 12 volts).
jaccoserv posted 08-16-2006 02:22 PM ET (US)
Not so fast...
The pump on my 170 could no be shut off either. I think it was a safety thing. Even in "OFF" the float switch would still activate the pump.

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Author	Topic: '03 170 Montauk on a mooring
wbullwin	posted 08-07-2006 01:13 PM ET (US) I just purchased a 2003 170 Montauk from a non-Whaler dealer. They aren't much help explaining the features. I did talk to one dealer a while ago when I was out looking and he said if I leave the boat in the water uncovered, to pull the main drain plug in the hull and let it float with a little water in it. He said it would only come up to the top of the resevoir and not come any higher because of the foam in the hull. That way, if it rains, it will run right out. I tried this on Saturday during my first time out on a Whaler. By the way, the 170 was great. As soon as I pulled the plug and the water came in, the bilge pump came on. (At least I found out it works) No matter what I did with the switch, I could not make it stop pumping. Even "OFF", it still ran. Was I told wrong? Or is there a way to rewire the pump to really turn the it off?
Jimm	posted 08-07-2006 04:50 PM ET (US) The switch on the console is a 3 position switch - Top is ON always Middle is AUTOMATIC (pumps when water level in bildge reaches a certain height and the automatically turns off and goes to sleep until again needed. Bottom is always OFF.
bigjohn1	posted 08-07-2006 05:25 PM ET (US) Yep, something is not right, if the switch is in the lowermost position, the pump should not come on at all.
jimh	posted 08-08-2006 09:04 PM ET (US) [This article was originally posted to THE GAM but has been moved to this discussion area because this discussion area is specifically designed to discuss this topic.]
swist	posted 08-12-2006 08:04 AM ET (US) I'm on a mooring all Summer. I don't pull the plug. I don't need saltwater crud accumulating in the rear of the boat. The bilge pump works fine to keep the boat dry, even if unattended for several days of heavy rain.
nydealer	posted 08-12-2006 09:26 PM ET (US) On the 170 Montauk you do not need to pull the plug. With the auto bilge it keeps the boat cleared out. If it is left for an extended period with a lot of rain it may run the battery dead. Pulling the plug while on mooring is helpful for the 130/150 without a bilge area.
swist	posted 08-13-2006 08:45 PM ET (US) "Extended period" seems to be pretty extended. We have had tons of rain in the NE this Summer - my 170 has been unattended on a mooring for up to a week during which there were 6-8" of rain. If you can believe the voltmeter, the battery hardly noticed (it was still at about 12 volts).
jaccoserv	posted 08-16-2006 02:22 PM ET (US) Not so fast... The pump on my 170 could no be shut off either. I think it was a safety thing. Even in "OFF" the float switch would still activate the pump.