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David Pendleton posted 10-10-2006 12:15 PM ET (US)   Profile for David Pendleton   Send Email to David Pendleton  
I am looking for ideas on how/where to install various electronics this fall, including radar.

Up until now, I've only had to contend with GPS and VHF in the overhead electronics box.

Please drop me a line if you're currently running a similar setup (bsmotril?).

Thanks all.

BarryGreen posted 10-10-2006 01:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for BarryGreen  Send Email to BarryGreen     
David -

Are you referring to adding electronics to a 235 Conquest? If so I can probably help, as I purposely bought my 235 without electronics and added the VHF, GPS,and radar that I felt were best. Pulling wiring through the hardtop and the downtubes so that it looked like a factory install was a real bear, but worth it.

If yours is an earlier model, I don't know that my experiences would apply.

David Pendleton posted 10-10-2006 01:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
My Conquest is a 1999 model.

I won't be pulling cable through the tubes; everything will be installed in the upper electronics box.

What I'd really like to see is how and where the scanner and display were installed.

Thanks.

kingfish posted 10-10-2006 01:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Even if all monitors and controls are in the upper electronics box, you're still going to have to get power from somewhere, and running through the tubes is the classiest way.
Buckda posted 10-10-2006 01:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
David -

Sounds like you're going to get some canvas too? Tampico should be looking sweet by spring.

I agree that running your power cables through your support tubes will be the best way for a clean installation. You may choose to run a rather thick primary cable and then distribute the load with a fuse block or circuit breaker up in the electronics box.

Good luck on the project. Have you winterized yet? I saw the temperature in International Falls this morning was 29 and coming our way...brr!

David Pendleton posted 10-10-2006 02:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
I already have power (via factory fuse block) in the upper electronics box; that's what powers the current VHF and GPS.

I'm looking for good ideas on where to put the display, it's too large to actually fit "in" the electronics box. I'm also curious about what was done with the 45' or so of cable from the scanner (it can't be cut).

If I remember correctly BSMotril had a unique solution to these problems, but I can't find his pictures anymore.

You out there, Bill?

Dave--yes, a full curtain set is also on my agenda. The boat is being winterized as I type this. Just in time, we're expecting snow showers tomorrow and Thursday.

Thanks all.

bsmotril posted 10-10-2006 04:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
Hi Dave,
What I did with the Conquest was to mount the brackets for the fishfinder and radar display behind the panel facia on a starboard base plate. That starboard base has dovetails on the sides, and slides in and out on dovetail grooved starboard rails that mount perpendicular to the facia. There are slots cut into the facia for the legs of the display brackets to protrude. The whole thing is spring loaded with shock cord to keep the brackets retracted. Without the displays mounted, the brackets retract enough that you can close the lid on the electronic box. Pull the brackets out of the facia to mound the displays.
http://home.austin.rr.com/smohome/images/Dscn1578.jpg

http://home.austin.rr.com/smohome/images/Dscn1579.jpg

http://home.austin.rr.com/smohome/new_conquest23.htm

By the way, I no longer have the boat. I sold it to a member of this forum via the Marketplace. Now I've got an '84 Montauk and '66 Sakonnet.
BillS

David Pendleton posted 10-10-2006 04:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
Thanks! Those are the pictures I remember seeing.

What did you do with all the cable from the scanner?

David Pendleton posted 10-10-2006 04:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
More specifically, I see you had two RayStars, to antennas and the scanner.

I'm assuming you just coiled everything up as best as would fit in the left side of the box. Did you experience any interference by doing this?

I know that sometimes various cables don't get along with one-another.

I'll be installing a VHF, RayStar and scanner.

TRAFFICLAWYER posted 10-10-2006 06:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for TRAFFICLAWYER    
Looks nice, but get rid of those corroded gas filters and go with the Yamaha stainless & 10 micron filters.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=61606&posts=55

bsmotril posted 10-11-2006 08:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
The cables are in the left hand portion of the box. They are coiled into a figure 8 pattern to minimize inductive coupling, and secured with nylon cable ties. I had no interference problems whatsoever. BillS
bsmotril posted 10-11-2006 08:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
Also, Whaler already supplied power to the top box via cables already run up the leg. At least they did on mine which came with the dome light, and cockpit/spreader flood light on the rear of the hard top. They also put a fuse block up there too.
bsmotril posted 10-11-2006 08:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
Traffilawyer,
The Merc Install Manual for the Optis in 1998 specifically called out against using any external fuel filter because it can cause flow restriction problems. I learned this after getting my boat with the external filters already isntalled by Whaler. I never had a fuel restriction problems with my 135s, but heard of other (non Whalers) with 150 and 175 Optis having problems with external filters causing restriction problems. The Optis already come with a spin on water separating fuel filter cannister built into the vapor separator under the cowl.
David Pendleton posted 10-14-2006 07:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
BTW, Bill--

What did you do with the existing fuse/distribution block?

I see you mounted the radome directly on the hardtop, I have a 5" tower, but when I line things up, the block is in the way.

Did you relocate?

Thanks again.

bsmotril posted 10-16-2006 11:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
From what I can remember, my fuse block was mounted on the bottom, not the top of the box. Since there's plenty of wood in the top of the box, I don't see why you could not move it.
BillS

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