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Yiddil posted 11-09-2006 10:57 PM ET (US)   Profile for Yiddil   Send Email to Yiddil  
Well, It is almost another season of boating on my 2004 Nantucket, "Das Boat." I am wondering about your reviews on your Nantucket after this years boating. I understand there are owners from 2003 to the present, but that is okay. How are we doing?

For me, I'm still totally pleased with "Das Boat" and all its components, canvas, motor, etc., even though I started this season late in July because of life threatening heart condition. (I'm all better after 10 months)

I have not changed my mind about this boat. She is outstanding in every way. Except for a repainting her bottom (dealer re-did this because of a bad application) I have had not a moment of bad performance.

I recently got a place off the Potomac, and she now resides on an electric lift, but she is in the water a lot, along witht the 13 (1964). But the Nantucket is by far the best boat I have ever owned.

So, how is everyone else's view of their Nantucket a year latter? Problems? Comments? Acoladales?

My Best, "The Yiddil"

highanddry posted 11-10-2006 04:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Proud mac003to own the most maligned boat on CW. Seaworthy, stable, smooth, easy to tow, efficient, classic good looks, superb quality, it is the best and nothing has casued a change of heart.

Riverwhaler posted 11-10-2006 08:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Riverwhaler  Send Email to Riverwhaler     
Best thing I have ever owned. Having a little Indian summer here in Vermont and got a good run on The Connecticut river yesterday. Keep looking at bigger boats but everytime I take Nantucket out it seems just right for what I do most of the time. So will keep it.Have had zero problems or concerns. Do wonder about that big bait tank under leaning post. What could happen with that over the years. Remember the leaking problems. Honda 150 is also one of the best decisions I made. Running Vensura prop again and it does make a difference. Added Racor filter with visable bowl on bottom and haven't seen any water yet. Did have to replace West Marine AGM battery, went dead after 18 months. Kept it on pulsing trickle charge last winter which may not be the thing for that type of battery.
Riverwhaler posted 11-10-2006 08:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Riverwhaler  Send Email to Riverwhaler     
Forgot picture.
hhagan posted 11-11-2006 08:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     
We have just completed our third summer of use in our 2004 Nantucket equipped with 115 Merc 4-stroke, Mills Canvas, pedestal seats instead of leaning post and standard electronics. The boat has proven itself to be extremely smooth and seaworthy, easy to tow, roomy and economical to operate. It has been run about 50/50 in fresh water and salt. It is probably more boat than I need, but I like the margin in terms of safety and comfort. We will typically have 3 to 5 folks on board. Wife and kids love it.
It will run flat out at 38 MPH, just like the book says, but I seldom run it that hard. Mostly used to goof around or take exciting trips up and down the Chesapeake Bay. The best money I have put into the boat has been Bennett Tabs, which make it run like a much larger craft in choppy or windy conditions. If I had it to do again, I would consider a 135 or 150, but I really do not have any big complaints with the 115. It sips gas, though that is probably a small consideration on a boat that costs as much as one of these nice Whalers. In summary, no big problems and no complaints. Glad we got it.

Yiddil posted 11-11-2006 11:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
hhagan ...REally Nice pic of your Nantucket and canvas.........who did your canvas??? Is that a Mills window dressing or another canvas maker??? IS that a Sport Bimini or the other kind????

My BOw Dodger, Bimini top, covers, mooring cover are all Blue aaaand made by Mills.....I just installed the mooring cover this weekend........really a nice cover.......had my doubts about drilling into "Das Boat" but it worked just fine......

I have the 115-2 stroke, w/ leaning post, bait tank, sun lounge, fishing package abridged with the addition of the sun lounge, Cooler now at the stern...182C GArmin, 501 radio, etc........

Im just as impressed today after a run out on the Potomac, Lower Machodacc as I was the first time I took her out on the Chesapeake Bay...what an amazing boat she is.......Spent the last two days on the water in near perfect conditions........I LOve this Boat!!! I will enclose pics on the next post around:))

hhagan posted 11-12-2006 09:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     
Yo, Yiddil,

The canvas is Mills, windows and all. The installation was done by the dealer, Bobby’s Marine, in Burgess, Virginia. I swapped out the Whaler Canvas for the Mills just to allow me to put on the bow cover and windscreen. I am not sure if it is the “sport Bimini” or not. It is just what Mills sold to me. Expensive but worth it because it extends the time we can use the boat. Here are a couple more photos showing the interior and boat in the Rappahannock River with just the bow cover up.

Yiddil posted 11-12-2006 11:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     

Here are a few of "Das BOat"

Yiddil posted 11-12-2006 11:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I Have the sun lounge installed...great option...and removed cooler and fishing rod holders to the stern of the boat...cooler at the stern is a nice work up because it adds another seat to the rear of the boat...and adds like huge amounts of laying down and sleeping area tot he bow!!!!!
hhagan posted 11-12-2006 01:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     
Very nice. We like that running around space in front of the console.
Sal A posted 11-12-2006 07:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
You guys make me miss my boat. It is a nicely designed vessel indeed.
Riverwhaler posted 11-12-2006 08:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Riverwhaler  Send Email to Riverwhaler     
hhagan, really interested in the seats instead of leaning post. Can you reach the wheel without leaning over like you were in a auto? Can you stand in front of them like a leaning post? Do they slide back and forward? Would you do it again if you had the chance? I like standing but need to sit after a few hours.
hhagan posted 11-12-2006 09:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     
Hey, Riverwhaler,
I took delivery of the boat with the leaning post and used it for a year. The dealer told me that if at any time I wanted to swap, he would just do it. I wanted to be able to sit down too and also wanted to be able to have someone riding with me be able to turn the seat aft and watch the kids on the tube. At anchor, it is nice to have a couple of additional seats for chatting and sitting around with friends. I have had the seats for two years now and like them fine. They do slide fore and aft. They will turn 360 degrees. They are extremely sturdy and the pads fit well and are quite comfortable. You can easily stand in front of them even when they are slipped forward as far as they will go. If you want to sit to run the boat, I slide the seat forward and my feet rest on the console ledge. I tilt the wheel down and can drive without leaning forward (I am 6 ft tall). Overall, I like the option and would do it again.
kline posted 11-13-2006 10:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for kline  Send Email to kline     
Nothing but good things to say about my Nantucket (2004 135 opti). My only problem is I don't use it enough. I am trying to downsize to a Montauk or Dauntless. If I can get something smaller I think I could get more use out it! The Nantucket is a bit big on the trailer for the Jersey shore in the summer.
Yiddil posted 11-13-2006 06:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Interesting...I got the leaning post because it just fit my 6 ft. frame perfectly both leaning and sitting...Moved the cooler to the stern and added the sunlounge for the bow for more lay down power....Its very comfy for sitting for me...and everyone else has the rerst to sit on...but Id be interested to see how it would feel for a long term...makes sense, had the seats on my Proline and it was nice to turn one around...but a pain as I had to keep moving them for diffewrent things..........I still prefer my leaning post.....just very comfy for me........

kline posted 11-15-2006 08:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for kline  Send Email to kline     
My wife and daughters insisited on the ped. seats ( I wanted the leaning post) when we bought our 2004. I have enjoyed them. They are great for cruising as well as turning them around to watch the rods when Striper fishing.

Where did you put the cooler to allow for the extra bow cushion? I have a bow cushion but it is a bit small for my 6' daughters when sunbathing. Do you have any pictures of your set up?

Yiddil posted 11-15-2006 10:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Where did you put the cooler to allow for the extra bow cushion?

The cooler and rod holders were removed....The cooler is at the stern of Das Boat up against the transom and the rod holders were not reinstalled as of this writing. THe CC pillow, with the tackle box remains in place and fitsb and works well with the Starboard base and matching cushion............install was a snap, but the thing weights a ton!so removal is a pain when cleaning under it...But what an extention for lounging around....You can lay straight out and not touch the consol:)))) MY kind of Whalering :)))I have pics on the install somewhere....?

Later, "The Yiddil"

kline posted 11-16-2006 10:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for kline  Send Email to kline     
Sounds cool, but giving up rod holders for sunbathing room?

My daughters would be all for it, don't tell them!

Yiddil posted 11-17-2006 06:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
didnt give up much...plenty of room in other parts of the boat for rods!!!think about it..:)
imko posted 11-18-2006 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for imko  Send Email to imko     
What is youre performance with the 135 Optimax behind the Nantucket? What prop do you use?



MitchD posted 11-18-2006 09:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for MitchD  Send Email to MitchD     
I have a 2005 190 Nantucket with a 135 hp Optimax. I installed an 8hp four stroke Yamaha kicker. The boat has the fishing package without the lure drawers, as I wanted to conserve space in the console area. I also installed a Humminbird 97 fish finder with GPS. I love the boat, but did not get to use is much this year because it was tied up at the dealers for six weeks to replace the livewell under warranty. It was my fault, as I told the dealer that I was in no hurry, thinking it would take two weeks or so to replace. They worked on it during their "spare time" which is very scarce in the summer. The prop is stainless steel 17 pitch pushing the boat up to 43mph at an altitude of 3500-3700 feet (Lake Powell). Where I live in Colorado, at 5600ft altitude, top speed is 35mph, and it takes a loooong time to get on plane. The boat seems to lose plane at 25mph. I would like to install electric trim tabs, but they are too expensive for me at this time, so I bought a whale tail attachment. I have not installed it yet. At the mountain lakes above 7000ft top speed is around 25mph and ditto on planing.
I do have some issues with the Whaler, although nothing serious. I think the under-gunnel rod holders are a joke. I plan to replace them with Rod Saver holders mounted on a custom bracket which I will build in the off-season. I think the 135hp motor is too small for this altitude. Motors lose about 3% power for each 1000ft in altitude, so the 135hp motor becomes 103hp at 7000ft.
kline posted 11-19-2006 10:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for kline  Send Email to kline     
The 135 opti has been a great choice for us, sips gas and uses very little oil. Wide open she runs at 42 mph according to gps, cruise is around 30 mph at 3800-4000 rpm. I run the stainless Mirage prop that came with the rig.
imko posted 11-21-2006 05:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for imko  Send Email to imko     
Thanks for the reply.



hauptjm posted 11-27-2006 06:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
Since, these are neat shots, I'll try to help: AnneFullerandHughonWhalerinRapRiver.jpg

hhagan posted 11-28-2006 06:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     

hhagan posted 11-28-2006 06:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     

Hello, Hauptjm. Tell me how to post the URLs so they will open automatically and do not require pasting to the address bar. Seems much easier, but I do not know how to do it.
MitchD posted 11-28-2006 08:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for MitchD  Send Email to MitchD     
Are these seats the ones that BW provides with the seat option, or are they after-market from the dealer? I notice snaps in front of the seat, in back and in the slot in the seat back. I assume they're for cushions. If so, and if you have them, what effect do they have on seat height and comfort? Are the cushions an added-cost option?
hhagan posted 11-29-2006 06:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     
Hey, MitchD,

These are the BW seats. They are not an aftermarket product. They do come with cushions and they are very comfortable. The cushions come with the seats and are not "cost added". They have little effect on the ride height. The cushions are made out of the same high quality vinyl that BW uses for its other cushions. I always remove the cushions for trailering, but they are really quite secure.

Sal A posted 11-29-2006 07:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
Each of your links should have:

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Yiddil posted 11-29-2006 08:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Well, I finally did it...wINTERIZED THE NANTUCKET over the last few days of gorgeous weather down here in the Northern Neck, whilw a new dock goes in and re-install of the boat lift.....I really didnt want to but I did...:(

She was easy to do, and I had help over the phone when I needed a question asked...almost had a catostrophe though...while motor was running, ear muffs droped off due to powerfull water supply, but I shut it down immeadiately.whew...

Have the 13 left to do, but holding that in reserve so I can go out tomorrow..............a bit differnet to do..85 seahorse/35 horse short zip about getting to the carbs but will investigate...

THE new mooring cover works great!(mills) I cant belive I didnt do that years ago!!!

Ill post pics when I have a few....

hauptjm posted 11-30-2006 11:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
Everything you always wanted to know about UBB code:

I think everything you see will apply with the exception of adding images. Our benefactor controls that to prevent unecessary amounts of bandwidth from clogging up our efficient operation.

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hhagan posted 11-30-2006 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     
Here is an attempt to make it easier to view photos.

hhagan posted 11-30-2006 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     
whoops. did something wrong.
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Kencvit posted 12-01-2006 01:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Kencvit  Send Email to Kencvit     
hhagan, I`ve been thinking about the seats, so thanks for the pics.I like the leaning post as I have a back problem.But my father and other passengers would prefer a seat. The drawback to the leaning post is there is not a grab rail for the passenger, if you move forward to hold the console rail for support , your not against the leaning post .Adding a grab rail would be tricky on the Nantucket.I was thinking about contacting CMI to see if they could make one. Also there are some after market back rests for the leaning posts which would help sitting on the leaning post but I don`t know if it would be as good as a seat.
Last summer when I got the boat the dealer had a set of seats and wanted $750, a lot so I passed, he said that was a cost price....I also got a price from a Canadian dealer(I`m in Canada) and his price was $1200 CDN....Yikes!
Its Garelick hardware and seats I`m pretty I think I could go to marine website and find the Garelick seats only they wouldn`t have the same vinyl that they use for Boston Whaler.
My question for you is when your sitting back in the seat are your feet dangling ? can they reach the foot rest on the console? The seats look high in the pictures , it doesn`t like they can go any lower.
Thanks, Ken
kline posted 12-01-2006 10:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for kline  Send Email to kline     
I also have the seats. I usually drive with the seat all the back and my feet on the elevated foot rest on the back of the center console. By just reaching under the seat and releasing the lever I can pull the seat forward and stand using the seat as a leaning post. The seats are very comfortable while fishing or just relaxing facing the stern, while at anchor or drifting!
hhagan posted 12-01-2006 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     

The seats are not too high for me to sit comfortably. As shown in the picture, my feet rest comfortably on the foot rest on the aft side of the console. I usually keep the seat slid forward but can run the boat with the seat all the way aft. Seatedatconsolewithfeetresting.jpg

Kencvit posted 12-01-2006 07:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Kencvit  Send Email to Kencvit     
hhagan, kline, thanks for the reply....looks like I`ll have to bite the bullet and get a pair to keep my crew happy.
I hope to attend a boat show in the southern States this winter where I can see and try them in person . I`ll have my father with me. I still would like a grab rail for the passenger though. ( I saw one in some pics of a 26 Outrage, different console though.)
I`ve been following the trim tab threads too...they`re also on my list for this winter...there`s always something!
Link posted 12-01-2006 07:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Link  Send Email to Link     
Ken where are you planing to go down south.
I bought a few things that worked extremly well for my whaler last spring. I also seem to have bought a cottage lot at Traverse Bay so I won't be buying toys this year.
Give me a call when you have a few minutes.
MitchD posted 12-02-2006 06:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for MitchD  Send Email to MitchD     
Although the seats would be nice to have; after considering the pros and cons, I decided not to buy them for my boat. The primary reason is the loss of the additional storage under the leaning post cushion. This is where I keep all the safety equipment such as flashlight, first-aid kit, portable horn, whistles, binoculars, orange signal flag, signal mirror, eventually flares, etc. I would have to put these into a dry box and keep it under the port rear seat or inside the console, both unhandy places. The boat has precious little storage space as is. I use the cooler seat for dry storage also.
highanddry posted 12-05-2006 04:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Every once nd a while something comes along that is just "right" and the Nantucket is one of those things.

Let the naysayers whine, the NanTub is a right salty boat.


Yiddil posted 12-08-2006 01:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
highanddry....with all due respect...why are you always talking about Nay Sayers..and the nantucket>?????????????

Most think she is a gorgeous well built Whaler and very popular with a lot of people

what are you talking about???? My Original Post was to see how owners felt about their Nantucket..Outrage after another year of boating and what they have done with their boats so they can share that info with others...

Ive seen no negitive stuff here....>?????????????????????

highanddry posted 12-09-2006 12:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Yiddal, we will just have to dissagree, I see what I see, I was not speaking of this particular thread.

Well, howabout the one where it was said the Nantucket was like a bathtub and was underpowered with a 150 and then it turned out the fellow who claimed his classic Montauck was more seaworthy failed to notice the boat in question had a 115--YOU DONT REMEMBER THAT THREAD or any of a dozen similar? Well, I do. It was that thread that caused me to coin the Nantub name.

Of all the boats I have seen or been around my Nantub get's the most compliments. People who come up to me at the docks and drool, those who speak in hushed tones as if in awe. When I bought it I had no idea, I just thought it looked like a nice boat and guess what--it is.


highanddry posted 12-09-2006 02:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Quote Yiddal in the thread under the Performance section about the Nantucket Dissappoints in Rough Water:

"Well, I guess Im one of the "putzes" Me and my 115-2, just pting, puting, puting....hehe. I still love my nantucket...its not a NanTub..were in the world did someone piece that togther and start calling it that?????????? Me thinks the nANTUCKET name is probably one of the better names for a whaler..Ive seen.........
I can't understand why anyone needs to knock anyones opinions on here...My boat handles just fine for me and the conditions I use my Nantucket in....and once in a while the conditions merit me not boating in it..

Calling people names because they dont share your point , of it for speed, kind of boat, just something this forum was not designed for, and shows a large amount of insecurity and you might want to talk to someone about that..........

I will continue to stay clear of the nice will ya....

shame shame....again..."

end quote

Not to pick on you but I think you should remember now perhaps--one of many.


Yiddil posted 12-09-2006 03:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     


I remember my post but I belive it was put in as an answer to someone talking negitively about engines sizes on the Nantucket...not the Nantucket per se...and yes, I dont belive a 115-2 is to small an engine for my needs with the Nantucket

I still say opinions are valuable but to knock someone for a preference is not.........calling people names because they dont agree with you is not approprite here or anywhere else in my opinion...still....

And none of what you said in quoting me has anything to do with this thread...nor did I say anything negitive other than "Be Nice" SHame SHame" obviously because someone was not..maybe more than one...and Im not going back there...

If you havn't noticed, I LOve the nantucket...lots of people its not a tub to me but Im sure you ment in positively.......

but please let go of your hurt already....forget those Naysaysers as you see them, we all love this boat bunches and share in the proudness we have for her, and the acolades people give us when they see them at our sides....

LIghten up, life is to short...........

highanddry posted 12-10-2006 03:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Quote yiddal

"I still say opinions are valuable but to knock someone for a preference is not.........calling people names because they dont agree with you is not approprite here or anywhere else in my opinion...still...."

I did not say you were calling anyone names---you lighten up--lol and BTW I have not called you or anyone else any names. This is not second grade--to bad we don't have PM capibiliuty here but oh well.

Uh, I am very glad for the Nantub I have. I wish they had not changed the name to Outrage but I guess that means we now have classics. Oops, we are not supposed to call our classics classic.

It has been a good purchase, no issues, no problems. I do think that it could benifit from tabs, not a requirment but like many V hulls and mod V hulls they would be helpfull to reduce planning speeds.

The oeverall efficiency and seaworthiness of the Nantucket continues to surprise me. I have recnertly added scuba tank racks etc. More modifications are in the works.

Oh, I don't especially like the trailer, this boat needs a lower trailer with dual tires. Oh, BTW, I also like calling my boat a Nantub, sorry if you don't like that but I do.

Another thing, I have the seats and now I wish I had stayed with the leaning post, it helps with another issue the boat has, marginal dry storage.

This boat is nearly perfect for our uses, if they change I may seek another Whaler or some other boat entirely but this one is awfully nice. I may add some teak.


Livingwater posted 12-11-2006 12:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Well, Its almost another season of boating on my 2004 Nantucket, "Das Boat"I am wondering about your reviews on "your" Nantucket after this years boating ...........I understand their are owners from 2003 to the present but thats okay....Wondering how we are doing..........

AlL I can say is my 190 Nantucket is Awesome
My previous boat was a 240CS Stingray which doesn't even come close to match Whaler's solid built construction.

I tried the rest now I own the best!!!

Yiddil posted 12-11-2006 04:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Livingwater ...ditto here...she is the best Ive ever owned...what a great product....I miss her now that she is under a mooring cover, but I hope to still get out on the T/T Das 13 1964...shes a hoot too:) But nothing seems to come close to the Nantucket, what a sturdy, sea worthy, and terriffic product whaler has made....I wonder how their sales are going for them over the last three years..I mean, how many boats....could be interesting to know how they fair compared to other models...But now she had turned intoa hefty price range as compared to three years ago...
Livingwater posted 12-19-2006 02:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
I was hoping this thread would continue for the 190 Nantucket.

It was helping me get over the Winterized Blues

Yiddil posted 12-19-2006 06:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
He H e, OKAy, lets keep it going..........I winterized mine a few weeks ago, but Have not done the 13 in case I have some unexpected good weather:)))

Having been very sick most of this year until July, My Season was very short, and since I almost died, I was glad to get on "Das BOat" even a little...

But what made it special was getting a new place , addinga new dock and reinstalling the boat lift for her, addinga mooring cover to make things a bit easier...and all I can do is think about spring in Va. and how great it will be...

She was running terriffic again this year and I expect her to continue to give me years of pleasure. I have no need to replace her move up or down the chain of Whalers, she is the perfect boat for me...

I have not used my live well, shut her down after the reports of issues with the drain, but one day I will get that replaced under warrenty...I guess....

Looking forward to lounging on her once again very soon:)

TG_190 posted 12-23-2006 12:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for TG_190  Send Email to TG_190     
Well, Hello and Happy Holidays to all.

It's been a while since I've posted on here.
I was one of the first to buy and post re: the nantucket.

Mine was a 2003 w/ a 135 Opti. I sold it this past summer for a , fair price. I have a 25' CC w/ twins that pleases me.

That said, the Nantucket was a fantastic boat, and I miss her. I stand by my original review in 2003: Excellent boat.

I am happy enough only owning 1 boat that does what I need to do well, and w/ the security of twins, and protection of canvas, and fancier electronics. The raw simplicity of the Nantucket is still something I find alluring as a good all purpose boat, w/ a relatively low cost of ownership and operation to trailer around.


TG_190 posted 12-23-2006 12:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for TG_190  Send Email to TG_190     
...I almost forgot to mention that I have a very nice Nantucket cover for sale on the marketplace here.

A very nice addition to owning this boat IMO.


Yiddil posted 12-23-2006 10:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
TG...How nice to see you here again:)

Yes, you were one of the firsts, and your review really helped me decide to buy "Das BOat"

I wish I knew about your cover a month ago..went with the Mills Mooring cover and was glad I finally broke down for one....I just wanted something easier to cover her with then the blue tarps I was using.......

When ernesto hit, I was done bailing tree gabage out of her and spending hours cleaning her out....

I recently got a place in Northern Virginia w/ lift and dock (which I promptly replaced for new....and now my Nantucket has a Nice new home, complete with mooring can see pics at Just hit Das see the water toys...also a 1964 13 sport...

Maybe I should get a back up for that mooring cover???? whats the difference?? between yours and mine////

My Best to you and yours....

TG_190 posted 12-25-2006 12:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for TG_190  Send Email to TG_190     

Thanks for the kind words. It must be nice having the boat on a lift in your back yard. That is ideal.

The cover fits the Nantucket perfectly, and is nice and snug. It is designed to be used while trailering as well. It is lighter than a canvas winter cover, but very strong fabric, and stitching. It is much better than tarps (I know).

The guy that bought the boat was not interested in a cover cause he was going to store it indoors.


Yiddil posted 12-25-2006 08:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
TG, Yep, that is a dream come true. After I almost died last year, we all here just said , what the heck are we waiting on...and went out at Kamie suggestion and that was the first thing we saw and fell in love with it:) Re-doing the dock and reinsalling the lift and wham!!!DReams do come true:)))

Yeah, that Mills cover cost, but its near perfection for that boat...water rolls right off....not sure what snow will do...but I figure it should hold up pretty good...

If your ever up this way, Ill give you a tour of the potomac:))

My Best, henry AKA THE YIDDIL

Perry posted 12-27-2006 11:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
The only problems I've had with my boat so far are moisture in the bow/nav light and in the console. All in all I have been very pleased with the boat. The motor gets great fuel economy and the hull handles the open ocean quite well.

I have lost 2 MPH at the top end after I had the T-top installed but it still goes over 44 MPH which is fine with me.

Here are a couple of picture I took yesterday. 80 degrees and sunny.


Livingwater posted 12-28-2006 01:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Hey Perry:

That's not nice posting those great pictures with that color water while we're having the winterized blues in Connecticut.

Awesome pictures

Yiddil posted 12-28-2006 09:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Perry!!! Nice picks. Always nice to see your Nantucket!!! OH MY!! IT HAs a T top on her now....what made you go and do that???? Did you have to go customized on the T-Top or was that a Factory oem type....

yeah, its discusting..all that blue water:)) hehe

If you want to see Das BOats new Place, go to
and click on "Das House",

Having the dock/lift/ The Glebe as my back yard isnt to bad either!!!!

My Best!


whalerfan2 posted 12-30-2006 02:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerfan2    
Perry - very nice pics! I have not purchased a 190 Outrage yet, but hope to do so this year or next. When did you put on the Honda? I would like equip mine with either the 150 Yamaha or 150 Honda, but have encountered some resistance from dealers not wanting to 'buy' back the standard Merc. Any suggestions?
Perry posted 12-30-2006 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
Yiddil, I had the custom T-Top installed because I do lots of offshore fishing and there are no poles or straps to negotiate like a bimini has. It also is a good platform for a VHF antenna.

whalerfan2, I had the dealer remove the Mercury and install the Honda before I took delivery of the boat. It cost me an extra $2000 but I believe it was money well spent. The owner sold the Mercury on the side. I would ask the dealers in your area if they can do the same for you.

Good luck!

Livingwater posted 12-30-2006 08:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
How many members on this forum own a 190 Nantucket?
Riverwhaler posted 12-31-2006 03:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Riverwhaler  Send Email to Riverwhaler     
Yiddil posted 12-31-2006 08:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I knew I forgot you Nantucket ownersw...what do you do to set up your hook, do you leave it in the box, or do something else with it, cause it can be a pain getting it out of the box with cushions etc all over the interesting to know...

I know I have seen some hooks attached to the bow rails on some vintage outrages...but what about the Nantucket..........??? whos doing what????

highanddry posted 12-31-2006 09:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
When I am expecting to anchor and this is usually when we are using the boat for fishing or diving then the bow cushion is left at home as are all the cushions for the stern seats. This allows quick access to the anchor area. If the line is stowed well in the bucket then you may set the anchor locker lid back down so that you can stand on it easily as you toss the anchor over and let it play from the bucket through the slot. On occasion we have carried the anchor in a bucket with bouy and set it ahead of the console. The anchor is tossed over and then we tie to the bouy thus allowing us to unhook and recover a diver or explore other areas nearby and then return to original site. We don't allow anything but real deck shoes and bare feet on the boat so climbing all over it does no harm including standing atop the forward locker lid. I am considering installing a door in the door or bifolding door.
Perry posted 01-01-2007 01:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
Bow cushions? My boat is a rough water fishing and diving platform. I have no need for bow cushions or forward shelter. I just open the anchor locker and toss out the hook which is a big Danforth with 20 feet of heavy duty chain and 300 feet of rode.
Riverwhaler posted 01-01-2007 11:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Riverwhaler  Send Email to Riverwhaler     
Yiddil sometime ago someone on here told how to cut a bucket so that the line was coiled in bottom and Danforth was held in cutout. I can get this in forward hatch bucket upright with a old towel on top to cushion it. Just cutout a square notch for shank and two places for Danforth to set into bucket and coil line into bucket. All set to go.
Yiddil posted 01-02-2007 01:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Yes, thanks for the reminder...there was something about the bucket a while ago...and a great Idea too! Anyone got any other ideas?

Yes Cushions!, and a LOunge extension witha cushion!,,,,,

I do alot of laying down, snoozing kind of fishing! LOL

MY Bow cushion then runs from the bow back all the way to the Center consol, I just relocated the cooler to the stern behind the live well:)

I never leave the dock without my fishing cushions:)LOL

Okay I did last summer a few times, but I prefer thee cushions:)

Marlin posted 01-02-2007 12:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marlin  Send Email to Marlin     
I built a form-fitting basket out of Dri-Deck for my anchor locker. It does a great job protecting the gelcoat from chips, and keeps the rode from lying in the wet. Henry, remind me to show it to you when we get together in the spring.


Livingwater posted 01-02-2007 12:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
I've been looking for something to protect the inside of my anchor locker before it gets damaged from the anchor and chain. I was thinking about either storing it in some type of waterproof bag or using Dri-lok tiles. The bucket sounds like a good idea...Any pictures?
Jordi posted 01-02-2007 01:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
Another option for the gelcoat protection of the anchor locker is to use a hot glue gun (Michaels craft store) and apply to all the contact point in the anchor. This will provide protection when using the anchor and will not diminish the "grip" of the anchor when properly used. The glue will harden to a consistency that will protect but will not be easily removed. Lining the bow locker with PDF, etc.. will provide some protection but will not protect when you have to place the anchor on the bow to move around. On another topic...Perry-you mentioned the console on your Nantucket to be damp at times. I applied marine silicone to the rear segment of the console from the inside and have not experience the damp console I used to have.
Gone fishing,
Perry posted 01-02-2007 03:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
I cut a small crack in 2 tennis balls and slipped one over each post on the Dansforth anchor to protect the gelcoat of the anchor locker wile the anchor is being stowed.

No more damage since.

Riverwhaler posted 01-02-2007 07:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Riverwhaler  Send Email to Riverwhaler     
Chuck Tribolet sent this quite some tima ago. I would put the chain in the bucket too. Scroll down to part with bucket.
Always search this site for stuff its all here....
Yiddil posted 01-03-2007 08:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
JUst thought I would mention and share that I got a email from Mr. Bennett of Boston Whaler tonite in reference to questions I had about the 2004 live well issues reported here (not this posting)but on the site) and here is what he said..........

"Whaler can assure you that a broken livewell or drain is not a common occurrence and that any issue that is the result of improper installation or faulty material would be covered under warranty.

I'd recommend using your boat as it is designed Open up the livewell seacock valve (in the bilge), place the livewell drain in place, flip the livewell pump switch on, adjust the flow of water desired (using the in-line valve, located behind the access plate on the port side of the livewell) and throw in your live bait.
Please include pictures of large fish...

If, for some reason, the livewell drain were to leak, it is located above the water line. Any water in the livewell would go into the bilge and the pump would take care of it. Shut off the livewell switch and seacock valve to prevent more water from entering. Again, this is not something that typically happens, there are thousands of these boats being used without any issue...just trying to give you an idea of the drainage set-up."

I take him at his word when he says he hasn't seen much of that at all...and "their are thousands of these boats being used without issues!" I think that makes me want to open her up again as I shut her down(Live well) after reading about problems here with someones live well........obviously, it wasnt all of them...:) surely not mine...Its been some time ago so its good for Nantucket owners to know it wasnt all wide spread as initially thought....

I also found out that the 13 sport I have was ....."your 13', serial number 12393...built in our old Rockland, MA factory as a 13' Sport and originally shipped to an Eddie Labar Marine in PA on 6/8/64." I thought that was pretty cool to find out about...:)

anyway...Im glad to pass on a positive email from Mr. Bennett to other NAntucket owners..............

highanddry posted 01-04-2007 04:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
My livewell is fine, your over reacting and if it breaks so what, better now under warranty than later after it is not. The boat cannot sink.
Livingwater posted 01-04-2007 01:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Good picture of the anchor and bucket setup however I think I'm still going with lining my entire anchor locker with Dri-lok or etc.
Sal A posted 01-04-2007 01:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
The initial 190 Nantuckets did have a problem with the bottom of the livewell being built too thin. The floor of the livewell could not hold the weight of the water in the livewell. I witnessed three Nantuckets at my old Whaler dealer in the shop at the same time for repair of this issue when I was repowering mine. Suuposedly it has been rectified, but the problem did exist. My dealer told me it was widespread.
Yiddil posted 01-04-2007 11:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Sal, I heard about the problem and thats why I asked him..but I have not had an issue with mine ever, but still shut he down cause I really didnt use her much, but used her for try storage instead on occation...

I know the problem existed for some and have no dought it happened more if you say so..but not to everyone and not as widespreed as we may think....If it was automatic, Id have gone in and had something fixed, but there is nothing to fix:))

highanddry...Im not over reacting at all. I wrote to Boston Whaler to see if the issue was widespread and if I needed to do something if it was. I asked the question and got the answer. If it does break, Chuck clearly says it will get fixed, but I knew that already. What I was checking on was if it was so widespread, it would call for a recall or something and clearly it is not widespreed even for my year.......

I put it out here as informational for all the nantucket owners so they knew what WHaler was saying, not just internet postings....sometimes they differe...a bit:))

highanddry posted 01-05-2007 04:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
What I mean by over reacting is that you stopped using it and shut all the valves. Why, so it will not break or because you don't water in the boat through the seacock? If it is going to breck it needs to breck while under warranty and if it does the worst that will happen is that the bilge pump will have to pump a little water out and you can take it back to the dealer and tell him to fix it.
Yiddil posted 01-05-2007 09:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
highanddry, Please understand that I only shut her down because I didnt want to spend time at the dealer with it if it broke and I really dont use it...

You are correct, use it and if it breaks take it to the dealer....but....I just felt differently...and thats okay too.....At the time I wasn't sure what the issue ment to ....I know better now........

who knows, maybe Ill do more fishing this year!

Its supposed to be near 70 tomorrow here in the DelMArVA area....Might have to drop the natucket back in the water.... hehe

Livingwater posted 01-13-2007 02:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
My modifications for parking in my garage


jimh posted 01-14-2007 10:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
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Yiddil posted 01-15-2007 12:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
WOW!Livingwater!You did all that to get her in???????? And
when you want to go boating, Thenwhat???? to hand it to you, I just got a mooring cover hehe from Mills:)

Is that railingbeen customized? to breakdown????? How does that work?

Livingwater posted 01-15-2007 01:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
It only takes approx. 5 minutes to remove the upper section of the grab rail and windshield. The integrity of the railing is still strong enough for the bimini top.

By doing this I have the opportunity to keep my boat in a heated garage during the winterized season. No longer do I have to brush off the snow before it damages the cover.

Nothing beats being able to see your polished boat every day like it's on the dealers showroom floor. õ¿õ

Scott Grey posted 01-15-2007 10:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
Livingwater, Its not everyday you see someone go that far to put there boat in the garage! My dad has a 1999 seadoo twin engine jet boat that looks like it was bought yesterday because it was always in the garage when not used. Also the grab rail split looks very professional, i bet that wasn't cheap. With a t-top, my 190 outrage won't fit in a garage but i have a full cover which is about the best i can do. I think what you did is awsome! Ten years from now your boat should look like new.
bluemarlin posted 01-17-2007 10:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluemarlin  Send Email to bluemarlin     
I just got back from towing my Nantucket 600 miles down Baja to Mulege Mexico. Trailer was great. No problems on Mex 1. The 150 Opti pushed the whaler at a meager 4.7 gallons per hour at 28 knots while there and we caught lot of cabrilla (grouper) and some yellowtail. It is by far the most smooth riding boat I have been on in the Sea of Cortez in the Winter. I also remove the screws in the front of the windshield and the two bolts on the grab rail to put my Nantucket in the garage. With the swivel hitch it fits nicely.
highanddry posted 01-18-2007 04:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
I also remove the windshield and the grab bar to get the Nantucket into the garage. No problem.
Livingwater posted 01-20-2007 09:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     

Before I had the modifications made to my rail I looked at removing the entire grab rail but I felt that in time the gelcoat might start cracking from loosening and retightening the four screws that held the grab rail in place. My biggest concern was that I routinely park my boat in my garage during the entire boating season instead of only moving the 190 Nantucket once into the garage for the (winter) season

highanddry posted 01-20-2007 10:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
I don't remove all four bolts, I just remove two and loosen the aft ones and rotate the rail carefully. The windshield goes off and on very easy, just a few minutes.
I understand your concerns given you do this every use.
bluemarlin posted 01-21-2007 11:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluemarlin  Send Email to bluemarlin     
I only remove the screws in the front of the windshield and it rotates back over all of the instruments. I put a towel underneath it between the windshield and the instruments bungy it down to the two vent holes and it works great. I also tow my boat with a cover this way.
highanddry posted 01-22-2007 12:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
You know hat--that is very smart--why didn't I think of that. On a long tow I bet having tghe windshield down or off would save some fuel and protect the glass.


Yiddil posted 01-28-2007 01:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Okay who has put a radar arch on a Nantucket, who did it, and what did it run?????????????Ive yet to see one...but was daydreaming today about one.................thanks,
Scott Grey posted 02-02-2007 11:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
I haven't seen on yet on a nantucket/outrage but overton's or boaters world sells a universal that's probably less expensive than having one built and isn't bad looking.
Livingwater posted 02-02-2007 02:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
It will look real good on a hard top
Yiddil posted 02-03-2007 12:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Thanks, still looking but have not found anyone with one...nor with a ETEC 150...been playing with the idea of maybe repowering with real good reason, just day dreamimg on winter days:))
Newtauk1 posted 02-26-2007 09:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
Bottom line would all the Nantucket owners here buy the same boat again. I am considering an up grade to a 20' Hull and may be able to get into a used Nantucket price range.

Any thoughts would help.

Kencvit posted 02-27-2007 01:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Kencvit  Send Email to Kencvit     
newtauk, I would. You just have to find the engine thats right for you. I traded the 135 opti for a 150 Yamaha( sound reasons only).
I really like the tall console and leaning post. The best option/add on is the Mills forward shelter
Its a family boat
It`s a fishing rig
The 190 nantucket/outrage is very stable and I feel very safe in it.The higher freeboard contributes to this.
My future wish list:
Lenco trim tabs
8`` screen GPS
Trolling motor(gas or electric)
Jordi posted 02-27-2007 07:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
I considered and rode many 20' hull before purchasing (Robalo, Grady White, Wellcraft, etc.) The room, fishability, family-picnic, ease of clean-up, great looks, solid built, 5 MPG (Opti 135) fuel efficiency, etc all contributed to my decision to buy. If you have never been on the water on a Nantucket/Outrage take her out for a good spin in rough/moderate/calm waters. I doubt there is a better riding 20' hull on the market today. A fantastic boat....and yes I would buy the same boat again.
Sal A posted 02-27-2007 09:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     

I sold my Nantucket and regret doing so; I wish I had my current boat and my prior Nantucket.

Scott Grey posted 02-27-2007 02:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
I've owned my 190 outrage for about 2 months and still it impresses me everytime i go out. Went out on lake monroe in NE orlando florida. In 2 foot heavy chop with some good head wind and still stayed dry evern turning around with the wind to the side. Even in these conditions the 150 verado still made 45.8-46.4 MPH on gps with full tank of fuel and my 8 year old. It's a sweet ride!!
Newtauk1 posted 02-27-2007 10:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
Thanks guys. The boat really seems to account for all my usages on the water. I want to start the search and I think by trying to focus on a specific brand and model I will have more success. I am searhing for a used one as the new rigs (Outrages) are out of my budget right now. I have 6 seasons with my current 17' hull and would like to think this next move may be the last or second to last.

I will try to convince my wife to get out on one when the weather warms up a tad (Northeast). Besides from the few reports of the faulty bait well, the model seems to be tested.

Thanks again I will keep you all posted.

The photos of all the boats are fantastic...thanks.

Yiddil posted 02-27-2007 11:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I also feel you can not buy a better 20 footer....The Bow Dodger is one of the best ideas , add a Sun lounge and you have a "sectional" all the way to the CC.......Best boat I ever owned!....

I have the 2004 and it still impresses me each time I take her out!My pics are out there on the site many times....

If you can find a better boat , buy it!!! hehe

Check the flea bay...there have been a number of them out there at good prices, rather than the new ones at around 48,000...............

think that price would have me looking but not buying the Nantucket now..and moving on to a Parker like Sal...unfortunately, they have gone up too:)

Newtauk1 posted 02-28-2007 08:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
Agreed. Parker is/was on my short kist as well.
Yiddil posted 03-10-2007 01:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I guess I would have to do a whloe new review on Das BOat, if I get an ETEC huh???
Livingwater posted 03-11-2007 09:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
I personally don't think it's worth the investment to re-power. You always describe your present setup as sufficient for you. I think you would enjoy a T-top much more.
Livingwater posted 03-11-2007 09:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Just ordered the Swivl-eze 10108 Lock N stow support for my outboard motor. I was using the small "flip up" arm that is part of the 150 Optimax even though I know it wasn't intended to be used while the boat is being trailered.
Yiddil posted 03-11-2007 09:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Livingwater may be right as I have always enjoyed my boat as it is:) But with the nantucket, its not hard to use my 115 carbed and get what I need out of her....It was just that I was day dreaming about the ETEC on her and how that would work...I am sure I would be happy with both...I'm pretty easy about it either stress involved and no real must either way.

I have been concentrating on making her as comfortable as possible for lounge and canvas, and as easy to use, ie a new water place for her...

Even though some like to trailer their Nantucket, I am very happy to keep her on a lift on my dock now and just drop her in when i want, no traveling, no fuss no bother...I also have the 13 sport 1964 for tooling around the back water and thats always fun too:)

But yes, Im a very happy camper with my set up as is....I have a 6 year warrenty on the Merc. so its not especially cost effective, but then again its not about the cost at this was about the new teckno and I really liked the commercial:) hehe...

Spring is here finally...MAkes no matter:)

Livingwater posted 03-13-2007 11:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Some of the things I plan on installing before my boating season starts is Lenco trim tabs, the new style seats with "flip up" bolsters by either Boston Whaler or the Garelick 945 with padded arms. I'm also planning to install the new style steering wheel with the knob.

Livingwater posted 03-13-2007 11:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Check out this link to view the 945 seats:
Kencvit posted 03-13-2007 01:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Kencvit  Send Email to Kencvit     
livingwater, Have you gotten any pricing yet on the Garelicks? They look nice. I contacted Garelick last year when I was looking at some swivel chairs/padded chair with 4 leg base for fishing . they are pricey . I asked if they can match the BW vinyl. They said only if done through BW . I`m sure their fabric is close, I`d prefer to see to first though.
I ended up buying a Wise aluminum folding padded chair when I happened to be in a Gander Mtn. store in Minnesota, on sale for $100 and thats worked good . the swivel ones seem be around 400-500....yikes...
Wise , Garelick or Todd . Those are the 3 main ones. I believe BW gets their seats from one or the other.
I have aluminum Garelick hardware on my leaning post.
Please let me know what you think if you get to see these in person before you buy.
I`m still considering the birdsall backrest, but not sure how comfortable it will be ....but switching the seats and leaning post back and forth will be a pain.
Yiddil posted 03-13-2007 09:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Livingwater ,Kencvit...I'd love to see picks of all these items here..I wish I knew were to get a back rest for my leaning thinks that would be a plus!:)

You may want to try a sun lounge..I highly recommend it:) whata way to relax:) I mean like a coutch!:)

MY only other thing will be to connect the bow dodger to the window, to the bimini sometime this spring if I can find a good canvas person near me in Northern Neck VA...Havn't a clue on who yet..........

Maybe one day Ill stick a arch over her...gotta find a aluminum fabricator some place down there...Havnt seen a Nantucket with one, or an ETEC yet, maybe one day soon.......


Jordi posted 03-14-2007 06:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
The backrest from Birdall for the leaning post is very good and the vinyl matches well. I found the sitting position (at lowest setting) to be too high on the leaning post and cut 2' on the Garelick seat post to gain proper height. At 6 feet this allows me to sit comfortably while cruising.
Yiddil posted 03-14-2007 09:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Okay fits in the leaning post rod holders??? Is that correct? They make um to fit?? Is that correct? What do they run???????????? You cut the poles down so they werent to high? Im 6 ft also...Thanks Henry
Kencvit posted 03-14-2007 11:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Kencvit  Send Email to Kencvit     
Henry, answers/photo`s to your questions are all on the website under the leaning posts heading.
the backrest with rod holders(because you lose your rodholders) is pricey...I`m still deciding.
Yiddil posted 03-14-2007 05:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Okay I saw one ...200.00 apiece for the back rest? Are they matched for the size of the oem leaning post? I mean How do I know...or has this been checked already???

Thanks Henry

PS is 200 to much for one? a mean think about what the seats run!! LOL

Kencvit posted 03-14-2007 10:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Kencvit  Send Email to Kencvit     
henry, you give them the centre to centre measurement of the rod holders on the leaning post,and the overall width and they take it from there. My guess is they`ve made several already for Nantucket owners so they`ll know the measurements .
I think jordi also mentioned that the angle is 10 degrees on the rod holder get the right angle.

Yiddil posted 03-15-2007 12:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
K...thats very kool stuff...there have been times were I wished I had a back rest...most of the time I just move to the sun lounge:)) hehe but ya cant sit at the CC that way!:) Tanks:) LOL
Yiddil posted 03-15-2007 12:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     

going to try this again..


Jordi posted 03-15-2007 07:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
If your leaning post has rod holders from Boston Whaler built in you use them to insert the backrest. If you do not have rod holders in your backrest you need to get the 10 degree rod holders from Birdsall. You will need to install them and insert the backrest into the rod holders. Once you have installed the backrest and sit on the leaning post you might decide that the sitting position is too high. At that point you can cut the Garelick post 2 inches and lower the whole unit for improved seating height. You loose the two inches by drooping the whole unit and having it rest on the new cut post. You still have about 2 inches to rise if you find the new position inadequate (net gain zero). I matched the vinyl to the posterior ribbed of the leaning post and it looks like it came from the factory. I also ordered the leaning post with the built in rod holders to gain two additional rod holders which allows me to drop four lines simultaneously without the issues of entanglement. This thread is way too long....if you want information on leaning post start one with the subject heading so that future querries can search the information.
Livingwater posted 03-15-2007 12:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     

I like the idea of having seats that have the "flip up" bolster which would act as a leaning post while in the up position. I also look forward to being able to sit while piloting the Nantucket in fairly calm waters or even having the boat anchored and swiveling the seat 180° to relax and enjoy the scenery.

I've sat in the Garrelick 945 during a boat show in Springfield MA. It was comfortable and appeared to be built worthy enough to be placed on my Boston Whaler.

I also sat on the new Boston Whaler seats and fell in love with them until I got heartbroken when I found out the price on the Whaler seats. Garrelick list price is less then the Whaler brand and I'm looking around for some good pricing for both.

Thanks for starting this thread for the 190 Nantucket. The boat really is awesome

Reel Time posted 03-15-2007 01:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Reel Time  Send Email to Reel Time     
Folks, I have an '06 19' Outrage, last fall I was trying to decide seat back for the leaning rest or roto seats also. After the new 19' Montauk came out I noticed the optional backrest over the livewell, so I called Whaler to inquire. They directed me to Anderson who is/was making their cushions etc. When I called Anderson they informed me that they do make a backrest for the leaning post and it matches the rest of the cushions so I ordered it and it works quite well, the price was something under $300. I still, however, have the desire for the flip-up seats. I like the leaning post to go offshore but the seats would be nice in the bays and sounds when flounder fishing etc., as well as when cruising.
Yiddil posted 03-15-2007 08:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
REal TIme..Anderson?? point me to heir site or umber wil you so can compare back rests with birdsall:) Thanks...Ill get down to Das BOat this weekend and measure per jordi..and see what can be done...:) Thanks
Yiddil posted 03-15-2007 08:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
eve mind about Anderson,gotithe info:)thanks again..........

Man I need to ghet on tha nantucket this weekend........This is the time of the year when Im just chompin at the bit!

We had high seventies for two days and now were getting cold rain and possible snow on Sat >??????

Then again, I shouldnt complain, I was in a coma this time last year!

bdb posted 03-20-2007 08:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for bdb  Send Email to bdb     
A question for you Nantucket owners, especially '03 owners, who purchased the "Whaler package" of boat, motor and trailer: What brand trailer came with it, and did the trailer come with brakes? Thanks
Yiddil posted 03-20-2007 09:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I have the 2004 and it came with a trailer that had surge breaks..KAravan Trailer ....I belive that was a great deal when they did the packaged you have to pay seperatlly for the trailer I belive...

I can say here that the Karavan trailer is a great trailer for the nantucket..I even got one for my 13 sport 1964 , 12,xxxx T/T !!!!DOes everything I want and has never let me down...same as the Nantucket!

bdb posted 03-21-2007 06:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for bdb  Send Email to bdb     
Thank you Yiddil. Are there others who can chime in?
Riverwhaler posted 03-21-2007 07:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for Riverwhaler  Send Email to Riverwhaler     
The trailer that came with Nantucket is just barely capable of the weight. If you add the weight of everything, gas and all the safety margin isn't that much. I bought larger tires and rims and it helped. The tires just barely fit but haven't rubbed yet. I think that boat should be on a tandem.
But I wouldn't trade for anything else, love the boat!
Livingwater posted 03-21-2007 01:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
My Karavan with bunks has surge brake control also. The Karavan is a pleasure to back in at the boat ramp. My last boat had tadem axles and the turning ratio is definately not the same as a single axle

The Nantucket is light and a tadem trailer would be an over kill.

Yiddil posted 03-21-2007 04:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I think the issue of the trailer with the nantucket is a matter of preference, although I have never heard that comment about the Karavan Trailer before I certainly have thought my 6 cyl. jeep was a stretch in towing her from time to time, but I remidied that with a 8 cyl Lexas suv...

The Trailer seems okay though. How would I even know it wasn't up to the weight of the Nantucket...Ive never noticed anything out of wacks???

Like I said, when you get it all in a package, it was worth every penny I didnt spend!! hehe My nantucekt is 20 thou more today than it wa sin 2004 and its esentially the same boat, except for the verado..

I know some have opted for a differnt trailer on their whalers..16 w/ example...but I just dont see the difference ...why a tantum???Whaler wouldnt have sold them if they werent matched to work together....?? would they???

Then again, I dont tow but maybe three times a year, and keep my boat in the water or on alift for 8-9 months a year...I guess its hard to tell with that if I have a trailer thats not okay for the Nantucket.............

bdb posted 03-22-2007 05:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for bdb  Send Email to bdb     
Thank you gentlemen for your trailer responses.
Jordi posted 03-22-2007 07:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
The drum brakes that come standard with the Karavan galvanized trailer are useless in saltwater conditions. Even if you rinse them after you launch your boat they stop working after one or maybe two seasons. Most of us have converted to disk brakes with new lines, etc.
Yiddil posted 03-22-2007 05:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Jordi...who is most of us????????????????and if you have converted, why havnt you shown us all above it?...and, why would they be useless after one or two seasons? I am having an issue with all this...why dont you be more constructive and positive in your reply ...maybe even helpfull.........and tell us "All" how you did it, why, and maybe who else your talking about? aaaaand mAybe even why surge breaks are no longer are effective after being in salt water vs fresh water etc????

I personnaly can't see all that with my Karavan, and Im sure there are other who agree with me...but maybe Im a lucky kind of guy and Im the only one with a good feeling about the service this has given me...with "Das BOat"

The question I belive was "What brand trailer came with it, and did the trailer come with brakes? Thanks BDB"

your answer has nothing to do with the question...other than to be negetive...A couple of us liked the packeage and we answered the question.:)

Jordi posted 03-22-2007 06:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
The question was what brand trailer (Karavan) and yes the trailer was originally equipped with DRUM brakes. Drum brakes and saltwater are notorious for failure and in Florida all the folks I know have converted their drum brakes for disk brakes for more durability. “why surge breaks are no longer are effective after being in salt water vs. fresh water etc????” You are mixing apples and oranges; the surge brake system is entirely self-contained on the trailer and is activated when the tow vehicle decelerates. The failure I allude to previously relates to the drum vs. disk brakes NOT surge brakes as you mentioned. I was very disappointed after one season to have to replace my drum brakes for disk brakes for a price close to $1,000 for all parts and labor. If you are having issues over an E mail in a forum (RELAX TAKE A FEW DEEP BREATH) and get on with life. Save your psychoanalytical rhetorical judgments for someone else.
Riverwhaler posted 03-22-2007 07:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Riverwhaler  Send Email to Riverwhaler     
I guess I didn't explain enough either. So if you add up all the weight, boat,gas,trailer and engine. Then look at the tire rating on tire. Multiply this by two tires and subtract the boat stuff and trailer weight above. The safety factor is only a few hundred pounds if that. I trailer everwhere so bought larger tires and rims with much more capacity. They do fit under fenders just....but I feel better and that is what we all want.
Perry posted 03-22-2007 08:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
The Karavan trailer that came with my 190 is marginal at best for the weight of the boat and yes, the drum brakes are useless for saltwater use. I removed the major brake parts after 6 months because they were locking up. I just increased the braking capacity of my 1/2 ton truck to compensate for the loss of brakes on the trailer. Since I keep the boat 50 yards from the ramp, I really don't need trailer brakes anyway.
highanddry posted 03-23-2007 02:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Yiddal, have you actually used your trailer? I thought you kept your boat moored and now at your camp house? I don't think a trailer sitting behind your house empty with a moored boat provides very much expereince with it.

I have towed mine many, many miles and the trailer really is marginal. I just have not afforeded to purchase a better one. I will get a tandem wheel, torsion axles with disc brakes.

I note that Boston Whaler now offers an upgraded trailer option over the basic trailer most of us have.

The boat sits to high on the trailer, the brakes don't work well, they rust badly even after rinsing from saltwater. The Karavan is OK I suppose but given the price of the package Iwould have wished for a bit more, at least a torsion axle and disc brakes.


Yiddil posted 03-23-2007 09:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Jordi, I took my deep breaths:)You do the same...nothing personal..

I'm not in Florida, and I surely didn't know what people down in Florida are doing with there Karavan Trailers Break issues.

I'm here in the DelMarva and we have salt water/brakish water...but I have never heard of this issue before.

Your right, I dont use my trailer much at all...maybe three times a year!and the old in and out sometimes for launching maybe 8 times total...I wouldn't even know about the issue as I'm sure I dont use it enough for it to effect me.

1000 bucks for new breaks? Wow! No wonder you got a case Jordi for the Karavan Trailer!!!

River WHaler, your explaination helps a lot..I had no idea..

I still think its a decent set up for the price in 2004, and saved me lots of money from todays market...I guess if your trailering a lot and launching a lot you would want the "best" you can get and pay the price. Personnaly, I used the extra cash for the on board toys:)

bdb posted 03-23-2007 09:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for bdb  Send Email to bdb     
I sure appreciate the input gentlemen. These last couple of commentaries are frankly what I have been suspecting. Thank you.
highanddry posted 03-23-2007 12:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Let me try to be clear, note that I said I have used my trailer to tow nundreds of miles EVERY TIME we use the boat. We will be making a 3,000 mile trip with it early this summer. This is different fron Yiddal's around the block. The trailer is not totally unfortunate. It has held up OK but it is not really what you should get in a package costing this much. It is like sending a Rolex watch out the door on a 5 dollars strap and a zip bag. The strap will hold the Rolex but is it what you expect?

1) Brakes are poor

2) brakes rust in salt water--quickly

3) not a tandem--bbbbbaaaadddddddddd, very bad. This boat needs a tandem

4) trailer sits to high

5) trailer is not sufficinetly crossed braced IMO

6) bad tire wear on the INSIDE of both tires. Very bad tire wear on the inside and hardly no wear on the outside

7) boat is always crooked on the trailer

8) load limit is insufficient for the boat and equipment

() the leaf springs s-----k and that is a FACT---period.

I have not deciced yet what to do. When I bought the boat I had it in the deal to get a different trailer but at the last moment decided I did not like the upgrade trailer either so I just told him t give me the Karavan thinking I would get another in a few years and I suppose I need to OR I could rebuild this one.

I would add cross bracing. I would add a tandem set up with torsion axles and disc brakes.

The Karavan will do better than nothing,like I said it is not totally horrid. It will transport the boat. You really could get more trailer for a package as expensive as this is.


Yiddil posted 03-23-2007 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
WOW! I had noi idea you had such issues people! Sounds like it is not Isoltated for Nantucket owners who trailer a lot...and Yes, I trailer as little as possible.

That being said I am wondering if some of what has been said as far as problems can be attributed to other issues .....bad tires, incorrect tire presure, boat being laid up crooked on bunks.

Thats not to say that what your discribing highanndry....I dont doubt your having these issues, but I wonder what the cause of these issue could be...

Then again, I take it all as issues worth discussing...but for me, they havn't impacted my original discription of what Ive experienced in my few years with the Nantucekt and package...........

highanddry posted 03-23-2007 05:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Yiddal, bud, you just don't get it.

"Thats not to say that what your discribing highanndry....I dont doubt your having these issues, but I wonder what the cause of these issue could be..."

Yiddal, others who may wish to know, the CAUSE of the issues is an inadequate, undersized, leaf sprung, drum braked, single axle trailer under a 30 plus thousand dollar boat and motor. That should seem self explanatory. Just as you find a carbed 115 adequate, I would find it inadequate. Just as you find the trailer adwquate for the one time you used it to bring the boat home, I find it inadequate for 3,000 mile trips.

Quote (more or less) from the Pirates of the Carribean, "Bring me the far horizon, mate."

One might alos note since people here think everbody cannot read a tire pressure guage, I have two Masters Degrees and one is a plus 30 in Geoscience. I hold PPSEL, Commercial and Instrument ratings and the FAA Airframe and Powerplant rating---I can check a tire pressure guage--trust me.

I am happy that Yiddal likes his trailer he never uses but if he were to use it he would find the same issues we who use them find, the trailer works, but it could be much better for the price.


Livingwater posted 03-23-2007 06:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Oh great...Another thing to get stressed out about while boating. I trailer my boat all the time and use it in both salt and fresh water. I have always flushed the brakes with fresh water after returning home from each trip after letting the boat sit for awhile (actually I wash the boat after each use then flush the brakes).

So far no apparent problem with the brakes.

The load rating on my trailer is sufficient for my boat however disc brakes would be great but for now..."If it ain't broken, don't fix it"

My tandem trailer I had with my 24 footer was a loadrite brand and that had brake issues.

Yiddil posted 03-24-2007 12:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Livingwater LOLOL, now now, you have the best boat in the world bar none...and you have a bare basic Karavan, but dont get stressed out about could be a lot worse off my friend:) Belive me!, it could be a lot worse!...

I guess the base price I payed for the Nantucket in 2004 should have been less huh! How I dont know ....Paying 18 grand less than what you would pay now should make it okay to be stressed out about a Trailer they threw in anyway at no extra cost:) LOL

Or as someone said here recently..." Nothing is free"

But I would take that deal every day and twice on sunday knowing today that I got a fantastic boat trailer and motor for, with gobs of money left over for all the extras my mind could dream up...Im always happy with what I have, and althought I dream a lot, and sometimes actually act apon those dreams...Gosh I love a good dream come true:)))Im still always glad for what I have...

Loose the stress, Its Spring Time!!!Last one in the water is a rotton Egg:)

Riverwhaler posted 03-24-2007 07:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Riverwhaler  Send Email to Riverwhaler     
This will at least bring up the tires to be safe. Get two 15 inch rims from trailer parts store with holes to match. Get two 225/75R15 Goodyear Marathon tires.Tire Rack online has them. They will just fit under fenders, haven't rubbed yet. You will have 900 to 1000 lbs of safety to absorb with any large bumps. The boat and trailer tow more easily and are more stable on the road. It is even easier to retrieve from the launch ramp because of large tires.
Yiddil posted 03-24-2007 09:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Riverwhaler, your always so helpfull:) Thanks...Thats something I would consider doing down the short road, makes sense and the cost wont kill anyone:0

Our Nantucket group are a group with a lot of know how and experience, and whne we share that info, everyone is better off in the long run...

It also has a lot of info for people considering a Nantucket/Outrage as a purchase..........

But I'm really glad we got a product, that if not perfect, is pretty damned close and the tweeks we make only make the product better

These boats can hold their own against any other boat, whaler or not...they have things included that make them attractive to a lot of people, and people who own them are very loyal to this boat.

I'm wondering what improvements others have made to make thier Nantucket/Outrage...better, more versitile, prettier, etc...that they could share here maybe with photos to help the rest of us...

I for one, think the Bow Dodger, extended Sun Lounge ae some of the best things Ive done to inhance the praticality and comfort of Das BOat..

But there may be others who have used non-standard items to improve theirs....lets here from you............

My BEst, Henry

Livingwater posted 03-25-2007 07:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
What I miss most about my 24 footer and what the Nantucket doesn't have is a head. The Dauntless 20 now has one however very cramped.
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Bulldog posted 03-25-2007 05:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bulldog  Send Email to Bulldog     
Sounds like you are doing the research, if you go Whaler and before you buy, if you have any idea of getting a bow dodger or rear cover , you should consider a W.M. Mills top, as their stuff all zips together into one piece easily. So if you get a bow dodger you could get the piece that goes between to make her a nice cold weather boat! What do I run, just some old Whaler so I can't comment on the ride...............Jack

PS But I do have a 20' Whaler with a head!

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highanddry posted 03-25-2007 09:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
I do not think that storage is so big an issue for the Natucket any more so that most 19 to 20 foot center consoles. It is about typical.

Maybe look at the Conquest 210.

I may eventually split my bow rail. Really, it has not proven to be a big issue.


Perry posted 03-25-2007 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
I was not trying to be anal. I was just saying that if you make your post easier to read, you might get a better response. That's what it's all about here. Asking advice and getting it from people here who have the same or similar boat.

I took about 5 minutes to make over 50 changes to your earlier post. Please don't be offended, I did this just as an example of what I meant by "making it easier to read".


While I have thouroughly enjoyed reading this thread, I still have many questions and reservations as if the 190 Outrage will work for me. I have been to the dealer many times to study the boat and while the bowrail gives it the salty look, it provides an obstacle for anchoring. Does throwing the anchor under the rail when deploying and pulling between rail and the beautiful shiny gelcoat when retrieving bother any of you? Why can't I get a split low profile rail like on the 210 Outrage as an option?

The trailer seems to definitly be a problem. I agree with highanddry that a professional trailer boater will upgrade in no time if not at sale time.

Storage is my biggest gripe and the boat's worst problem. The bow box holds anchors, rope and docklines; that's it. Where do I even store fenders? By the time you fill the console with safety gear, there is very little room to store even my wife's beach bag. A Dauntless cures all these problems It has much more storage, but I like the lines and console of the Outrage.

The price I was quoted for the boat, motor (150 verado) and the crappy trailer is 39k plus tax. No electronics were included, just a bimini top (nice one, though). Believe it or not, the price is not out of line like the larger whalers and is the cheapest of all the 20 cc I'm looking at(Grady White, Edgewater, Onslow Bay 20).

The salesman told me the livewell was not insulated so I really could not use it as an extra cooler(or could I)?I Would like to hear more about the ride quality of this boat.


Now I will attempt to answer some of your questions:

First of all, I own a 190 Nantucket and put a small ding in the gelcoat (about the size of a thumbtack head) near the bow by retrieving the anchor too fast. I now pull it up slowly when it's near the bow. When I throw the anchor, I first put it under the rail then stand up and toss it and try not to let the chain rub against the rail posts.

As for storage, I use the livewell as storage as well as the 100 quart cooler I installed in front of the console. I also have drybags that can be placed under the aft seat (port side) or clipped to a rail. My fenders are stored in the bilge and are placed there using the rear access hatch. Don't forget that there is storage under the leaning post cushion, it keeps items nice and dry. I use that area for towels or other small items that need to stay dry and I can get to them guickly.

I know of another 190 Outrage owner who uses his livewell as a cooler although I do not.

The ride quality is great for a 19 foot boat. It is fairly dry but can land hard if attempting to go into the waves too fast, It also tracks down sea very well.

The Karavan trailer isn't really a problem for me because I dont have to tow my boat far at all.

I hope this helps.


Yiddil posted 03-25-2007 10:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I too have used my live well for storage and also a cooler from time to time..After putting in a sunlounge, I now have storage under the sun lounge, CC, LIve Well, Under Bow Dodger when deployed, and have moved the cooler to the stern of the boat behind the live well...and can use that cooler for storage as well, also, I can use area under stern seat, and bilge, so for me there is lots of areas for storge...

Im not fimiliar with the storgae lockers on the other 18 foot whalers other than they are layed out differently and have added hatches. I think its a matter of what you like and what you like to pay for your boat...The 18 Daunt was running like a whole lot more at the time I got Das BOat Package in 2004...

Id rate the ride quality on Das Boat as as good if not better than any 19 footer Ive ever been on, dry and comfy...

You should read some old comments on here from some of the first Nantucket buyers:).........

If you were quoted 39.000 before electronics and canvas, then I think your talking 44-48 depending on amount of electronics and canvas and thats about right if it inclides a trailer...

My Karavan Trailer is fine for me but I dont trailer tens of thousands of miles...

Its all about what you like...and whgat your pocket book can handle...

Call now, why wait:)))

Jordi posted 03-26-2007 08:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
I use the bowrail to hold on in really bad conditions when I have to anchor in deep waters. Once you learn to throw under bowrail and retrieve slowly it does not become an issue. The Karavan trailer is no longer offered in the new boats so you can choose whatever meets your needs. If Karavan is your only option it will work depending on your trailering distance and the drum brakes will need replacement if heavy saltwater use. In the anchor locker I put two live vests to line the anchor floor and two fenders to protect from the anchor moving while cruising. The side anchor area is used for ropes. The front cooler (fishing package) is used for dry storage and food. I have an additional cooler placed between the aft seats for fish, ice, etc. The center console stores tackle boxes, safety equipment, and additional fenders. The livewell could be filled with ice and used as a cooler if you wanted to even though it is not insulated. Last week the winds were blowing 20 plus knots with 5/6 footers and I was able to get to my fishing spots (30-40 miles) dry and safe albeit no faster that 20 MPH due to the whitecaps. If you run her hard in these conditions you will feel the pain the following day. If you absolutely need to plow aggressively and fast thru the 5/6 footers the hull will remind you she is a 19 footer. Even in the worst conditions (small craft advisory) you can comfortably find a cruising speed that will not endanger you or your passengers. I ofter push the limits of the boat to test her seaworthiness and to-date I have been impressed with the dry “relative” comfortable ride. In rough conditions I have found the sitting position with a cushion under your butt the most comfortable/tolerable position. I have not seen many 19 footers that allow you to sit while the seas get rough and be as comfortable as the Outrage.
Reel Time posted 03-26-2007 11:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Reel Time  Send Email to Reel Time     
I looked long and hard prior to buying my 19 Outrage/Tucket. This is my number two boat, i.e. the smaller one, it was an upgrade from a 17' Sea Hunt. I agree with you storage is and issue, however, compared to similar sized boats there seemed to be much more deck room and it was easier to move around on the boat. My opinion is the bow rail is better because you can mount good quality rail mount rod holders to the rail, Lee's. On my Sea Hunt with the short split rail I had to make do with ugly plastic cheapies. You can store an anchor with 100 feet of line and 5 feet of chain in the bow locker on the side that is for dock lines, just put some rubber chair feet protectors on the anchor, turn it on end and put it in. You can also store 4 short dock lines on that side. There is then enough room in the locker for a 5 gal. bucket and cutting board that fits on the bucket. I use the console cooler as a fish/bait box and I found a small soft cooler that fits under the rear seat on the port side, it holds 6 cans and several sandwiches. The livewell I also use for storage, wash buckets, emergency oil, etc. Fishing tackle was a challenge, I filled the tackle locker in the console with inshore and offshore rigs. I store all materials for rig making in the console in a 3 inch plano, with two batteries, 4 life jackets, throwable cushion, and rear seat cushions. I also have the leaning rest full. So while limited it is doable.
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highanddry posted 04-04-2007 03:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
I don't think it needed to tow "tens of thousands of miles" to understand the weaknesses of the Karavan trailer but you might have to actualy use it at least once or twice beyond parking it in your back yard.


Livingwater posted 04-04-2007 01:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Let's get back to the awesome boat discussion...

Has anyone added a second battery to their Nantucket with a connection for keeping the batteries charged with "shore power"?

highanddry posted 04-04-2007 02:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
You might consider a marine duty battery tender. I have one which is actually intended to be mounted inside the console or bilge and then an extension can be used to plug into the tender. It states that it is water proof. I have not installed it yet but I will eventually.


Yiddil posted 04-05-2007 12:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Livingwater...I lIke your idea best:)

Okay , On the dual battery...I thought about it back in 2004...was told by many people it was really overkill to have two I kind of forgot about it.......

Shore why would you need that on a Nantucket? Please explain....

Das Boat is washed , waxed, battery hooked up, deck washed and ready for her 2007 maiden splash...I would have had her in by now but the weather has changed back cold and were expecting snow on Sat..........

But Im ready now.........

Livingwater posted 04-05-2007 01:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Shore why would you need that on a Nantucket? Please explain....

I used to keep my 24 footer "pluged in" while it sat in my driveway. The batteries were always charged.

I like to have the same setup for the Whaler

Livingwater posted 04-08-2007 03:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Hooked up the hose and flushing ears to the 150 Optimax today to run may 190 Nantucket in the driveway. I was very pleased with how the boat started as if it hasn't been sitting all winter.

I turned the key and the engine started up first try after cranking for approx. 5 seconds.

Can't wait for the warmer weather to get to Connecticut so we can start boating again.

Yiddil posted 04-08-2007 03:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Livingwater...way to go...I Know that made you feel great:)

Im on my way down to "DAsHouse" tomorrow and Im sure I will haveher in the water this week, and then on her new lift after a run ....

I decided (if you saw my other posts) to hold off on the repower (ETEC150) until I get the right rpcie on my 115, and if not Im real happy with what I have. As Tom Clark said recently..."I think you're crazy to want to replace that motor; there's nothing wrong with it!" LOL
Best part is I'm in the water right away:)

I still have lots to play with IE the 13/TT 1964 w/35 HP Seahorse...gonna put OEM side rails on her(have them waiting in the wings) and wire her for lights(Already did the new rub rail)

Das Boat isd waiting and ready for the first warm day, last three days we had cold her and snow showers UGH! for easter!!

AAny of you NAntucket owners wanty to come down to my place for a Rendevous this spring, summer or fall? Also non- Nantuckets are invited:) working up some details...let me know when your avail...Potomac River 11 miles from the Bay:)

Livingwater posted 04-14-2007 11:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Picked up my new Steering wheel today from my Boston Whaler dealer
Yiddil posted 04-15-2007 11:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Liv....which one did you get, show a pic...cost?.......the one from the 24 footer??
Livingwater posted 04-15-2007 12:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
My next modification will be the leaning post.

The first link shows a reversing back seat with a "flip up" bolster and slider adjuster. (I would be installing two)

The next link shows a leaning post seat which also would have a slider. (I might go with twins or one double wide)

Both types of seating would match the existing fabric color of my 190 Nantucket

Livingwater posted 04-15-2007 12:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
The steering wheel is from Whaler. graphics/products/3-49/356790949.jpg
Yiddil posted 04-15-2007 07:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Nice Wheel...I may have to get one of those...isnt that off a 24 ? The seats look good, but Alas....I lOve my leaning post...its just perfect for me...all it could use is a back rest and I still dont have a handle on who makes um and what they cost...Is there someone who makes the right size that will just fit into the rod holders on the leaning post????

But I have noticed a lot of people on here do like the seats after hanving used the leaning posta while...

I think sometimes about additions also, but Im so maxed out on this boat...I would like a Arch but have yet to find someone who can build one for me and install it in the Delmarva area...That would be very cool and I could then add the radar to the arch Ive always wanted..........

Im not sure how that would be installed, not a clue....

But other than that and the connecting canvas and windshilds(sides, Im pretty done .............

Oh Yeah...I might eventually get other power....hehe........

Scott Grey posted 04-16-2007 09:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
I added the same wheel to my 190 outrage the same day i picked up the boat. Best thing i've done yet! Looks nice and with the knob works as good as it looks.
Jordi posted 04-16-2007 09:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
Birdsall marine makes the backrest ($290) which fit into the rod holders.


Yiddil posted 04-16-2007 06:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Jordi, whcih one fits the Nantucket? give me a Item Number please...there a re two at 290.00...Thanks
Jordi posted 04-16-2007 09:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
You have to call Birdsall with the measurement between the rod holders in the back of your livewell and they will tell you which one fits your boat. If you do not have rod holders then you need to insert them prior to the backrest. If you do not get the built-in rod holders you can get the back rest for $200. (Bob Birdsall is very knowledgeable).
Yiddil posted 04-18-2007 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Jordi...Thanks, sounds like something I would really like to add.....I really enjoy the leaning post that came with the Nantucket..Its perfect for me...nut my lady asked for a back rest from time to time so...thats why the inquirey:)

Thanks so much for adding the info..I'm sure others will find it usefull:)

Yiddil posted 04-22-2007 10:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Well, Ive been so busy lately I wondered when I would make the time and have the right weather to splash "Das BOat" properly for spring...I'd had her ready for the past two weeks and intended to do it during the last spat of good weather, and then I started working on other projects, the weather got weird and we had a few storms with the last Norester...and finally this weekend were having exceptional weather, light winds, 80 degree days and balmy nites and I just couldnt take it anymore, so in she went and of course she started right up, performed flawlessly regardless of what I put her through and simply had a wonderful time of it so far...:) I am so pleased and had such a fine time:)That boat is something special no matter when I use her. But usually on her first run of the spring, I realize how really wonderful this boat is!!!especially after coming off of a few month layoff/winter.......

I'm loving life as I plan the next outing tomorrow:) hehe Im simply giddy!

Later, Yiddil

Livingwater posted 04-23-2007 04:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Sounds like you had a great time.
I decided against the new seats and have a custom back being fabricated as we speak for my existing leaning post. I'm probably going to modify a slider so I can retrofit my leaning post with one which will give me forward or aft adjustments.
Yiddil posted 04-23-2007 04:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     

I'm loving life:) Gorgeous weather and fantastic boating! what else could I want? Yes, me too, I\m sticking with the leaning post, and will eventually get the back rest ....but no rush...let me know how you figured out the movment of the leaning post just so I know...

Ill post pics when I have some time or it rains LOL

later, henry

Livingwater posted 05-01-2007 08:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
Console modifications


Yiddil posted 05-01-2007 10:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Livingwater, that looks fantastic!!! How does it feel...looks much more substantial than the original:) Dont get me started heheheh...

MInes back in as of last week....Im ready everyday now!!Illsend you a few pics ...

highanddry posted 05-01-2007 01:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
It is a pretty wheel but I think I will stay with the original, it looks more Boston Whaler and traditional and works fine for me.

I really like the way you centered your combo unit. Very nice that you remote mounted your radio leaving room for additional equipment to either side.

I was not really happy with the swim ladder for diving so I purcahsed the aluminum Garelick three step dive ladder and platform mounting bracket. The bracket is on order and I will mount it to the top cneter of the swim platform. The ladder will be mounted to the right side console. I will leave the swimladder in place. I also removed the back bolster from the right aft seat and made an aluminum plate from angle extrusion, painted it black and will afix a whilte non skid to it. The bolster made it to high of a step over to the swim platform.

I may add additional sonar capibilty for finding the smal rocks I like to dive that everybody passes over. The 987c is fantastic with the Navionics and Fish Chip. The new 97 is great but darn if they did not move the side freequencies up to 455 and 800 htz insteda of the 987c's 255 and 455 hrtz. I use the 255 hrtz signal at depths and in saltwater. I get decent sidescan return to 150 feet using the lower frequency.

Has anyone used bean bags in their Nantucket, where did you set it or them?

The two cutouts in the transom behind and uder the right aft seat access door. These are the scuper drain and bilge. Thhe ciruclar cutouts appear to have access into the hull interior----what have others doen to seal these areas from warter or is that needed?

Mobjack posted 05-04-2007 11:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mobjack  Send Email to Mobjack     
I saw this thread was still open and I couldnt resist throwing this in...
I have had lengthy discussion with several folks on here previously about the things I liked and didnt like about my dad's 03 nantucket with the 135 optimax. I find it to be grossly underpowered and sluggish to respond at low speed, but I hope I made it clear before that despite this one significant flaw, I find the all around package to be extremely comfortable, stable, and safe. It is roomy, and handles moderate and large chop well at high speeds. The optimax, while too small for the boat, has been an absolute revelation for us, its the first motor we have ever owned where there was no priming or choking, simply turn the key and fire it up, within two revolutions every time, no matter how long its been since the boat was run. In four years we have had 0 problems with the boat or the motor. So I guess despite the fact that I had some concerns, overall we have been thrilled with the boat and would buy another one just like it in a heartbeat.

That being said...

The boat has been on Marketplace here on CW for three weeks for sale at a reasonable and negotiable price with not one single hit.

The boat has been for sale locally in Va in the major and minor newspapers at the same price, with not one single phone call.

What do you guys think is going on?
Kinda makes me wonder...

Livingwater posted 05-04-2007 12:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
I have the 150 Optimax and I can tell you it has plenty of power. The only thing I don't like about my 2004 190 Nantucket is the noise level of the 150 Optimax.

If you compare the 135 vs the 150 you'll see that the top end speed is pretty close however the hole shot is slower for the 135.

The 135 Optimax DB levels range 64 for idle to 93 for top end.
The 150 Optimax DB range 80 for idle to an ear splitting 109DB at top end.

Try selling your boat through this:

I sold a 24 ft boat in January thru this means within 2 days

Too bad you need to sell the boat.

It is awesome....

highanddry posted 05-04-2007 02:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
What is happening is that boating is on the decline, gasoline prices are potentially heased for records this summer and despite a "good" economy eople just don't have the disposable income they once had for expensive toys like boats.

I know you just don't like your boat, it apparently is not a good match to you, I hope you eventually can sell it and have a happy ending, it will just take some time.

Meanwhile, my non sluggish Nantucket is doing fine thank you. Howerver, I do believe, depsite statements like " it gets up and moves" what ever that means, the boat is underpowered. It needs 150/175/200 horse options--not---115/135/150.


Scott Grey posted 05-04-2007 05:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
Or 150 Verado!
highanddry posted 05-04-2007 10:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
The Verado is kind of heavy,maybe with tabs.

In the thread, Nantucket dissapoints the comments were made as below.

Mobjack says:

"I own a 1983 montauk, which I love, and I grew up in whalers, my father owned a 78 montauk, then grew into a 22' outrage center console with twin 200 yamahas(great boat!!) then back to a 98 montauk, and finally a 2003 Nantucket with the 135 mercury."

Then Mobjack says:

"sorry Perry, I misspoke, our Nantucket has a 115, I think I referred to it in later posts but dont know what I was thinking about when I wrote the first one. "

and then in this thread he says:

"I saw this thread was still open and I couldnt resist throwing this in...
I have had lengthy discussion with several folks on here previously about the things I liked and didnt like about my dad's 03 nantucket with the 135 optimax"


Therefore I conclude Mobjak may not even have a Nantucket since he does not know what engine he has. He has had a long standing dislike of the boat that both he and then his dad and now him or whoever own.

Not every boat is for every person, I wish him well with whatever he has with whatever engine may be on it to whomever it really belongs.

Meanwhile, I think most people would like the Nantucket/Outrage 190 and it's new cousin the Montauk 190. Nice size boats with good economy and versatility and neither are likely sluggish or unseaworthy or any of the rest.

H&D (I have a long memeory and it is photographic)

Yiddil posted 05-06-2007 09:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Thi thread is about what you think about the nantucket/outrage, modificatons you ave made and the not about "why I cant sell my boat" Its about acolades, problems mods....not why I cant sell my boat and I think you can take that to the other part of the site need to try an hijak the thread....go sell your boat somewhere do everyonee a dis-service doing that...

highanddry posted 05-06-2007 10:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
My new Garlick dive ladder modification. I am keeping the swimladder in place but a dive ladder is much nicer for boarding in gear due to the fins. Also the weight of a diver may approach the limits of the standard telescoping ladder.

The new dive ladder can be left in place as shown in the pictures 9calm conditions, short runs) or it clips to a set of brackets on the side of the console.



There is a non skid pad that goes over the optional L bracket to prevent sliping and add a finished look. The ladder appears very sturdy and easy to get a purchase while wearing fins.

You may also notice I removed the seat bolster and added a protective angle of 6061 aluminum painted with truck bed coating for additional protection of the transom while entering and exiting the boat.


Mobjack posted 05-06-2007 11:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mobjack  Send Email to Mobjack     
Hey guys,

H&D, you are absolutely correct, during our previous discussions about Nantuckets, there were a couple of posts where I inadvertently quoted my father's boat as being a 115, when it has a 135. Mea Culpa. It does in fact have a 135. I do not have a longstanding dislike of this boat, which I thought I had made clear before, and certainly I have trouble understanding how you could read my recent post and come away with that impression. I know from reading your posts along with other nantucket owners on this forum that you have certainly enjoyed your boat, and let me re-iterate it one last time:we have too. It has been a wonderful boat, my only problem lay with the engine combination problem, which you do not have.

And to Yiddil: I am not trying to sell the boat on this page. I was merely commenting, in a nantucket themed thread, on the lack of response we have had in trying to sell ours, which, by the way, we are doing so we can get a new outrage! Did you see where I had written anything asking if you or anyone else in this thread wanted to buy this boat? I think not. It is for sale locally, and the only reason I put it on CW in the first place is because I know that if it sells here, it will probably go to another whaler owner who can appreciate it and take care of it. If you can't see the relevance of resale potential to a thread entitled "Nantucket, Review by owners," then I dont think I can help you. I certainly was not trying to hijack your thread. "How Rude?" There's no reason to get ugly. I made an objective post looking for any interested comments. You guys kill me.

MitchD posted 05-06-2007 03:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for MitchD  Send Email to MitchD     
I love my Nantucket, I love my Chevy Avalanche Truck, and I love my wife!!! However they all have some features which I would have liked to be different. In 47 years of marriage, I learned that the hardest thing to change is the wife, so I love her for the good things and ignore the not-so-good things. Likewise with the Avalanche. My wife calls it my "pretend truck," because it is the equivalent of a Suburban with a strange truck bed. When it is converted to a truck for hauling larger items, and the back seats are folded down, it is horribly uncomfortable to drive, as the front seats have to be moved forward. I am under six feet tall, and it's uncomfortable for me; I cannot imagine how uncomfortable it would be to someone with longer legs.
Likewise, the Nantucket has its shortcomings. I don't like the fishing rod storage racks under the gunwales. I removed them from one side and put in different holders. My live well ruptured my second time out, and the boat was laid up for more than a month getting the tank replaced. The trailer is OK, but marginally so. I towed the boat over the Rockies from Denver to Lake Powell with the Avalanche at freeway speeds with no problems, no jumping, no shimmying. I even caught myself traveling in excess of 80 MPH on a downhill straight away! I didn't do this intentionally, and will try not to do it again.
The boat is under powered. I have the 135 Opti, but even if I had either of the 150's It still would be underpowered for the areas where I use it. I live and play at or above 5000 ft. elevation, except for Lake Powell, where it's above 3500 ft.
My mechanic told me that engines lose between 3 and 5 percent power for each 1000 ft rise in elevation. I don't know why there is a 2/3 range in those figures. At 3% the 135 Opti becomes a 115 Hp motor (135-15%=114.75), and at 5% it becomes a 101 Hp motor (135-25%=101.25). However, there are lakes where I go to at or above 9000 ft, dropping the HP rating to between 75 and 99 Hp. Needless to say, gaining plane speed in these areas is near impossible.
In another CW thread, I found a formula that the Coast Guard recommends to determine the maximum horsepower rating allowable for small power boats. The formula is 2X Length X Beam -90, then rounded up to the next number divisavle by 5. The Maximum HP for the 190 would therefore be 215, not the 150 as indicated on the rating plate. At 175 or 200, the boat would be better than perfect!!!
I plan to add Lenco Tabs sometime this summer, to nudge the boat on plane at lower speeds, and to keep it on plane at lower speed.
I had hoped to get a better feel for both the boat and trailer earlier this year, as my wife & I drove the Avalanche to Florida in February, and stayed there for two months. Unfortunately, the boat was buried under two feet of snow in the storage yard, and I could not get it out. The 4000 mile round trip would have told me volumes about the trailer, and cruising the Intracostal near Englewood Fla, would have given me a better feel of the boat's power. Unfortunately, this looks to have been the trip of a lifetime for me, and I won't be back there for the forseeable future.
I do plan to take the boat to Mexico sometime this summer and to Minnesota in early fall, so at least I will have some low-altitude benchmarks.
On a side note, the 135 Opti has the same block and shares other characteristics with the 150 and 175. I asked my mechanic if it would be possible to change out the computer chip to one of the more powerful engines. He said it is possible, but would void the warranty. I would hope that Mercury would allow this change, and call it a high-altitude option, but I doubt that this would ever happen.
Jordi posted 05-06-2007 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
Had the opportunity to ride the Outrage 190 with the Verado 150. Scott, you have a sweet rig with incredible smooth shifting and VERY quiet ride in all RPM's. I doubt Whaler would rig the 190 Outrage with the 150 Verado if weight was an issue. If I were buying the 190 Outrage today the Verado 150 would be an excellent choice. The 4 cyl. Verado 200 will be out this summer which could be an option if weigh is with in specifications.

highanddry posted 05-06-2007 09:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
What has broken or required work going into the third season:

1.trailer brakes replaced replaced over and over due to a misalignment that cannot be cured
3. trailer tail lights keep burning out and yes they are unplugged when dunked extinguisher tray cracked and borke out
5.Sea Star aft units oozes fluid (a few drops) when left for several days
6.propeller nut was never locked and it tried to spin off--I caught it in time
7.the water pressure was falling rapidly last time out and an inspection of the impeller revealed it was about to fail--replaced with new kit.
8. the bow light is intermittant---bulb seems to have corrosion but the interior is clearly dry.
9. The SeaStar forward fill plug O-ring was dry and rotted

That is about it.

Yiddil posted 05-06-2007 10:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     

Nothing broken here:) Sure hope I did this right....

Yiddil posted 05-06-2007 10:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Oh Joy! It worked!!!!

Scott Grey posted 05-07-2007 01:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
Very Nice! I would like to have the same setup but in the florida keys. Again, Very Nice!
Livingwater posted 05-07-2007 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
That is nice!

Back to my leaning post modifications: I decided to hold off on the slider modifications until I try out my leaning post with the new back rest. The leaning post might still be close enough to the helm so I can reach the steering wheel while seated without sliding the leaning post forward.

Yiddil posted 05-07-2007 08:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Scott, you betcha, but Ill take this over being dead anytime....

Living ....when you order your leaning post seat back, send me the exact order, and Ill do the same...

Might not be needed, but Im sure its cheap enough to just take it off on the days I want to...

Ill post pics of my set up with the sunlounge and the remodeled fishing package, (just took off some rod holders(will replace somewhere else) and moved cooler to transome area...worked pretty good...

later, Henry AKA THE YIDDIL

bosco posted 05-08-2007 04:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for bosco  Send Email to bosco     
Hey Yiddil, I've been going back and forth on a Nantucket with the 4-stroke 115 and I'm concerned about pulling power for skiing. Any thoughts or opinions on this boat's ability to pull a skier? By the way, I'm 250lbs. Thanks from a noobie!
Perry posted 05-08-2007 05:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
After a 120 mile journey in rough seas this past weekend, the next modification I am considering is hydraulic steering for my 190.
MitchD posted 05-08-2007 10:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for MitchD  Send Email to MitchD     
My 190 Nantucket has what Boston Whaler calls "Teleflex hydraulic tilt steering." What does yours have? Tell us more about your 120 mile trip last week end.
Yiddil posted 05-08-2007 10:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I have the 115 carbed engine, which I thionk suits me just fine. Ive pulled skiers, and Ive pulled knee boards and tubs with her....but I would stay away from a 4 stroke 115, as they don't have the torque to do the job iMhO...Sal had a 115-4 and had to get another motor, drov e him to repower ...

The 115 carb gets up almost as quick as the 150...check other posts that showed the was a big suprize when I was researching before buying my boat...

But I think your talking about more weight and my 115 carbed is very light and that helps too...a 150 probabaly would be a btter solution if your talking more weight towing,

I dont tow very often, use her to cruise around in the 36-38 range wot...mostly at 25-30 relaxing...

I had done the homework for possibly getting an ETEC this spring, but decided against it as I have a pretty new motor with lots of warrenty left...and Im prety happy with my set up...

Hope that helps....newbee...again 115-4 is a bit sloppy for this boat, if you get the Nantucket, get a better engine with more torgue and power:)

bosco posted 05-09-2007 10:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for bosco  Send Email to bosco     
Great, thanks for the response. I don't do much skiing anymore but I sure would like to be able to when the opportunity arises. I did see the charts showing the 115 2-stroke vs. the 150 and was pretty surprised to see how quickly it got out of the hole. Thanks again.
highanddry posted 05-09-2007 01:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
I do not believe that the 115 on a Nantucket will pull a 20 pound slalom skier, maybe on a jumbo "old" man ski.

The 150 Opti is more efficient,uses less fuel, goes faster on top, has way better acceleration especioally under load and has power in reserve. Can also spin the Rev 4 prop and deliever 5.5 MPG.

alb1661 posted 05-09-2007 05:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for alb1661  Send Email to alb1661     

Have you ever been on a Nantucket with a 115 4 stroke?

The Boston Whaler spec's (150 opti)shows best 5.1 mpg @ 3500 @26 mph. Is that your normal speed?

I have a Nantucket with a 115 4 stroke, its very quiet. I cruise at 28/30 mph @ 4600 rpm and get over 6 mpg. I changed the prop to a 16 pitch which lowered the operating rpm's. I agree its not a fast boat with the 115 4 stoke( 39 mph top speed),but before you continue to bash it,take a ride in one.

hhagan posted 05-09-2007 10:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     
I have my Nantucket on the market, but NOT because I am upset with the performance of the 115 4-stroke. We have pulled tubes and skiers with 4 additional adults on board and the boat never failed to plane quickly and smoothly. The engine is quiet, starts with a touch on the ignition and is extremely fuel efficient.
The Bennett tabs I put on the boat last year allow the boat to plane even faster. The top speed on my boat with stock aluminum prop on a cool November day with no other boat traffic in a large fresh water lake is precisely 37 statute MPH. This is just what the specs on the boat said. No rocket ship, but I am no astronaut. It cruises comfortably at about 26 mph around 4500 RPM. We have been quite content with the 115 4 stroke on our 190!
Yiddil posted 05-09-2007 11:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
No matter what flavor engine you have and no matter what preferences you have for size and make of engine, one thing always seems to come out of these discussions....

The Nantucket/Outrage is one of the best Post-Classic Whalers ever produced and has pleased everyone who has been on one or owns one...

HAving personal prefrences on type of engine and prop is quite varied and is not Im sure ment to say any one prefernece is a slight on the nantucket or the owner.

On the 115-4, I would have been happy with it...Althugh I know Sal was not, I choose a 115 carbed, and many here would not, and many would choose one or another for a varied multitude of personal reasons...just like some like a seat over a leaning post, back rest over none, trailering over not....

And thats just fine and okay, and I just wanted to say that out one should feel slighted in the least...

WHat ever you want, life is to short, have at it and enjoy...but the Nantucket is a superior boat no matter what you choose to go woth her:))Ive not heard one person ever say the Nantucket was a "Bad" Whaler, dont buy one"


Perry posted 05-11-2007 01:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
MitchD, my Teleflex is not a true hdraulic system. It takes some effort to stter the boat while on plane.

The 120 mile trip began at sunrise in Waikiki:

The next stop was the island of Molokai where we caught some Mahimahi:

After some pleasure cruising:

We camped and escorted a caone race back to Oahu the next day:

Perry posted 05-11-2007 01:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
Here is the picture of us cruising the West Molokai shoreline:
Perry posted 05-11-2007 01:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
Oops, I'll try one more time:
Sal A posted 05-11-2007 07:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
My prior Nantucket with its 115 4 stroke was not a good combination for me. On calm days in Barnegat Bay, with maybe me and one son on board, it was fine. I saw a top speed of 37 or 38 mph at 6,000 rpm WOT. Moving at 28 -30 mph required a WOT over 5,000 rpm's. Not a rocket, but definitely underpowered. It was unacceptable when I put six people in the boat for a cruise, which is a frequent occurrence for me.

The last straw occurred when I was riding north in Barnegat Bay, against a stiff 15 knot north wind, with one of my sons in the bow bleeding from a nasty cut. I was trying to make haste. I had to trim the motor in to cut through chop, and WOT was about 5300 rpm's and I was struggling to move in the high 20 mph range.

I repowered that off-season and never regretted that move. I will always want a boat powered right for what I might need on that rare occasion, and happily cruise significantly under that, rather than power a boat with just enough for those average non-eventful times.

Sal A posted 05-11-2007 07:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
By the way I think Boston Whaler for good reason stopped offering the boat with that motor (115 4 stroke). Its website performance numbers were optimistic in my view. Perhaps they were attainable with a less than full tank, calm glass-like conditions, svelte personae on board, no bimini, no dodger, no gear, and with the Eagles together and touring for free.
Mobjack posted 05-11-2007 09:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mobjack  Send Email to Mobjack     
amen. well said.
MitchD posted 05-11-2007 11:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for MitchD  Send Email to MitchD     
You're right, The Teleflex sytem is a hydraulic steering assist system, and not a true hydraulic system with a pump. My trips are on smaller lakes and seldom take more than an hour at a time, and even at WOT, it does't take much effort to hold the wheel. One of my dream trips is to cruise all 145 miles of Lake Powell from the dam to the inlet in a single jaunt, but with the price of gas, I don't know if I'll ever get to do it now.
Nice pictures of your trip. The good thing about Whalers is that they clean up well. Some salt water fish can really mess up the boat, but all you need is a bucket of water and a brush, and it's just like new!
highanddry posted 05-11-2007 01:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
What are y'all talking about. The SeaStar system in my Nantucket is HYDRAULIC. There is no connection from helm to engine other than FLUID. It is hydrualic by definition. It is not boosted or power assisted but it is absolutely HYDRAULIC and like any hydrualic system takes advantage of hydrualic force multiplication. It steers effortlessly and holds position nicely. I could cruise 1,0000 miles and not get tired. If your unit are pulling or hard to steer you have a problem and need to service it or something.

Why does BW and so many OEMs install the Mirage Plus instead of the superior Revolution 4? This prop cures all the ills real and imagined of the Nantucket. Not only that, it is faster. Go figure.

Has anyone used the vent plugs on their Nantuckets?

I purchased the SeaStar rear unit rebuild kit. It looks simple enough to install. My rear cylinder has develop a small leak at the seals. Not sure why this has happened, I suspect that dog furr has infiltrated the seals--lol. I seriously doubt the seals are about to fail, just drip a few drops every couple of days.

When you actually use a boat, things break and require repair.

The fire bottle holder insert in the console is a piece of junk.

highanddry posted 05-11-2007 02:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
One hundred and forty five miles in my Opti powered Nantucket would take less than 1/2 tank or even less. Even at four dollars per gallon that would be under 120 dollars for the cruise down Powell. Surely if you can afford a Boston Whaler you can afford 30 gallons of gasoline? Don't over react to fuel prices. The world is not ending, put it in perspective and then go do your dram cruise or whatever.
imko posted 05-11-2007 04:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for imko  Send Email to imko     
What is the perfect prop for the Outrage 190 with 150 Verado? Has anyone tried the Enertia 18" fot that combo?

Perry posted 05-11-2007 05:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
highanddry, yours may have the teleflex seastar system but mine has the Teleflex no feedback manual rotary steering. type=us&product=1066

And I do have a stainless 4 blade prop. It works much better than the 3 blade prop I had on before.

highanddry posted 05-11-2007 06:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry

That is what my Nantucket has, much superior to mechanical and it is hydrualic.

Jordi posted 05-11-2007 08:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
My understanding is the Verado's are offered with power-assisted steering as an option. Not sure if the Optimax can be set up for the power-assisted steering, although hydraulic steering has been an option for a few years.

highanddry posted 05-11-2007 10:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
yes, if you go to the SeaStar web site I linked above you will see that you can install a power boost into the system. It uses the SeaStar helm and the SeaStar aft cylinder and adds a power unit which can be rigged in the console. Yes, I have seen this unit with power boost on another boat, a 22 footer with a 250 horse yamaha.
Yiddil posted 05-14-2007 10:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I was at a Boston WHaler dealer recently and asked the guy for some extra bulbs for my bow and stern light and was very suprized to hear the guy ask me what kind of bulb I took for Das BOat, my 2004 Nantucket...

He said all the guts for these boats had different bulbs depending on who put them together...I was astounded to hear that!

Any one confirm this??? he said they just pick up the closest fixture perko etc and it could be any one of a number of fixtures...

Again I am astounded they dont use the same parts for all for at least each year...or do they???



Mobjack posted 05-15-2007 11:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mobjack  Send Email to Mobjack     
Depending on how well you know that dealer, I would chalk that up to the guy not knowing what he was talking about. I hope... The idea of different model year Nantuckets taking different bulbs would be plausible, but there should not be variation from one hull to the next, that would be madness.
highanddry posted 05-15-2007 02:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
I think he does not know what he is talking about or is confused. All Nantuckets had the same integrated bow light. I have actually seen other Nantuckets on the water and speaking to them I noticed that their boats were clearly identical to mine in every way aside from options and added equipment. The bulb you want is a double post type bulb. There are several sizes of these. Your best bet is to remove the cover to get at the bulb. There are three screw as I recall, use a good screwdriver so as not to damage the screws. You can use valve griding compound dipped on to the tip of the screw driver to prevent slipping. Once the screws are out you can lift the cover and then lift the internal cap up revealing the bulb. Take the bulb to the store and get one like it. It is not a special "Boston Whaler" bulb, it is a common item and most marine stores should have them. When reinstalling the screws you might wish to use low strength Locktite on the threads as much as anything to prevent corrosion. You can use a bit of electrical grease on the bulb tips to prevent corrosion and provide a better connection.

All of the Whaler bashing does get old, they do not use cheap components. The dealer should know this. I have compared Boston Whaler boats to competition and it is clear they are well outfitted with good quality components. I am proud to own the most maligned brand of boat and the most disliked model of that maligned brand and am certain that I own the most expensive boat, pound of foam to pound of foam, on the planet, lol. Well, maybe some surfboards cost more per pound. That is a joke guys, no need to correct me.

Yiddil posted 05-16-2007 02:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Thats what I thought...guy didn't know what he was saying, but he was a Whaler Dealer employee, fixing whalers....;and that makes it more astounding....

I bought some bulbs and will do the deed next time I am on her...

No one has ever miligned "Das Boat" They may have had diff. of opinions, but miligned Nope:)

Mostly I get acolades...and oh wow!

Livingwater posted 05-20-2007 04:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
I'm holding off with the Lenco tabs for now...

I bought the SE Sport and will give that a try to help minimize the bow rise and hopefully lower my speed so I can enjoy level scenery instead of a great view of the sky

highanddry posted 05-20-2007 04:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
I notice that the new Revolution 4 propeller reduces bow rise considerably during planning, acceleration is quicker as well. I might now recommend instead of the Rev 4 the four bladed Vensura--maybe?

Tabs are onmy list, posibly this summer still and if not this winter. I think this boat would beifit greatly from real trimtabs--Lenco or Bennet.

Yesterday while trialing the prop and other mods from this winter, the wind was howling down the lake, about 30 MPH in addition to 45 MPH boat spped, I am pretty darn certain the boat became fully airborne off a rolling wake, I know this because our wake dissappeard. The Rev 4 revved--lol--but stayed hooked up.

Livingwater posted 05-27-2007 07:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
What a great day on the water Yesterday.

We cruised from Old Saybrook, CT to Duck Island.

Cruised up to Bill's in Westbrook for seafood and then headed out to Gardeners Island in Long Island.

The deepest water was 329 ft.

The 190 Nantucket handled beautifully. We cruised all day and only used 13 gallons of fuel.

Note: I never installed the SE Sport Hydrofin. The boat really doesn't need it however I will eventually get the Lenco tabs installed.

Also, I was watching a Cigarette boat take off and apparently the trim tabs were set wrong because the boat looked like it was going to launch skywards

Yiddil posted 05-27-2007 08:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Living...I Knew you didn't need the foil:)

I had one on an old boat with an old engine....but you dont need it for the nantucket:0

Heck, Ive never even thought of going with trim tabs ...

Ive been out all weekend including for the first time a night run in Das BOat!! out on the Potomac that was sooo cool..all those great lights (did a light check)on the dash and under, bow and sail...Its been hot and goegeous
and so we decided to do the night run just for the heck of it...........:)Hadn't been out on the Potomac at night in like 5 years...used to get real dangerous do to the drinking and driving of cetain boat captains...

Waters been flat to 1 ft so I took a run down the Potomac about 5-6 miles in about 75-100 ft of water....LOts of fish too:)

Practicing for The potomac swim for the Environment next week...going to hopefully make that run down by boat weahyer permitting...Longest Ive done is 75 miles...this will be about 11 miles one way...a pitch shot:) hehe

Later, henry

Yiddil posted 06-26-2007 09:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Just an update.......took Das Boat out and down the Potomac to the Potomac Swim for the environment...cruising at about 25 knots, took about an hour one way......with Barry coming up and the wind picking up I was instructed by the head of the Whaler group to get out early before the race even started on I untied her at Point Lookout(had permission to tie up over nite from DNR) and scooted up river about was pretty choppy 1/2 way up ...2-3 footers....but at the half way mark, the wind layed down and I opened her up and got back to my place in like 1 hour I must have been moving that last half hour...was back at my place by the time the Potomac swim started I guess...later that afternoon, the wind got everything all snotty, and Im glad I left earlly as suggested...

Das BOat handled well, and was a real pleasure as always to drive....never the less I was glad to have the wind lay down half way back up the river....

Ive been out tons since...and each and every time I am simply amazed at how she performs....what a pleasure.....

I will be seeing about joining some canvas ina few weeks if I have the time...and possibly doing a back rest, and an extention to the radio antenna....although on the last item, Im not sure I will need the extra length........because I have the boat bottom painted I have the liberty to leave her in the water off the lift and tied up dockside for even faster get aways when needed........

My Best to all of you:) Henry

hhagan posted 08-25-2007 11:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for hhagan  Send Email to hhagan     
Hey Nantucket folks. Reconsidered selling the boat and glad we did not. Have had great time this summer on the Chesapeake and closer to home on Smith Mountain Lake. We are finishing our 4th summer with the boat.
QUESTION to other owners:
I know you fill the tank completely with fresh gas and STABIL for the winter. I have done that yearly. Is anyone running their tanks dry or having them pumped or siphoning the gas before filling in the winter. I bet I still have some gas from 4 years ago lurking in the tank. Boat runs great and always has. Thoughts?

2004 190

Yiddil posted 08-26-2007 02:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
h...I thought this thread was closed, but I'm glad it's not, and I'm glad you decided to keep your Nantucket.....GReat for you and yours:)

I have always filled my tank and used stabil, and have never emptyed the tank so maybe someone else can talk to interesting to know how they did it all and what the effects were if any the next time they filled her and used there boat...

Ive actually not heard of a Nantucket being emtied this way for storage for the winter, but there must be someone doing that out there...

somewhere down the line I promised some pics of the "Sun Lounge" so here they are...........

Livingwater posted 08-26-2007 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
With all due respect...

Let's not mention the "W" word until our boating season is over in the Northeast

For a trailerable boat that can handle open water and is certified to handle 6-1/2 footers the 190 is an awesome boat.

Whalerdog posted 08-26-2007 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
great looking boat
Yiddil posted 08-26-2007 09:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
couple of more pics...

Life dosnt come any better than this:)

Yiddil posted 08-26-2007 09:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Now that Ive posted all these pics for everyone to see what Im talking about when I say what I say about Das BOat, why don't you all post your pics of your Nantucket/ Outrage so we can all see what your talking about in your reviews:)) Be nice to see everyone:)I showed you mine, now you show me yours:) so I can put the reviews with the pics:) Thanks, henry AKA TEH YIDDIL
highanddry posted 08-27-2007 03:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     

Our Nantucket 190 along the dock.

This past June we headed out of the pass at Destin, they were surfing the breakers. The Nantucket punched through the breakers and the look of the foam on the clear emerold water of the Gulf as the Nantucket parted it is imprinted on my mind. Spray flew twenty feet to either side as the bow split the wave. It was a Nantucket sleigh ride and nothing better to do it in than a Nantucket.

Viva la Nantucket 190.


Yiddil posted 09-06-2007 07:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Ill second that!! It may come to pass that down the road, the nantucket could be one of the great ones to come from Boston WHaler...I mean, 30 years down the line...people may realize eve more than us how wonderful a boat the Nantucket really is!!!

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