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Mel Wallace posted 11-11-2006 01:46 PM ET (US)   Profile for Mel Wallace   Send Email to Mel Wallace  
I'm going through the debate of whether to install a permanent stereo or use a boom box on my 2006 170 Montauk. Has any one considered or mounted a stereo in the Tackle drawer location for those that have the Fishing package? My thought is to use the bottom tackle box location instead of cutting into the console. Now comes the decision on where to mount the speakers! Let me know. Thanks.
Bjornas posted 11-12-2006 02:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bjornas  Send Email to Bjornas     
Top ten reasons not to have a boom box:

1)It is always stowed when you want to use it
2)Unless a proper mount is constructed for it you will never use it while underway. At least enjoyably for many reasons
3)They take up more room than an installed radio
4)They are not designed to be thrashed - And it will get thrashed even if wrapped up in a bag
5)It will drop at some point and shatter the radio or your foot
6)They don't like salt water/air
7)Crummy reception on radio
8)CD player kills the batteries
9)Batteries are just a pain in general, never mind the cost.
10)Takes up valuable stowage space, because that's where it will be 95% of the time

And a bonus number 11.. You also earn the right to carry it back and forth from the boat if you want to use it somewhere else. (Hope that battery panel stays on good)

I know this because I used one for a very long time on my big boat. Never again.


Good luck,
-Rolfe

contender posted 11-12-2006 10:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
You have to make this descision yourself, I can give you ten reasons not to install a radio. 1.Where to mount it small console. 2. Speakers holes in the boat. 3. Speakers will rust. 4. Will kill your battery esp. when you need it most. 5. Lost of tackel space. 6. When it goes bad can you find a repalcement that will fill the same hole? 7. Needs antenna. 8. More wiring to worry about. 9. Can not be moved. 10. They do not like salt water. 11. bouns You have a small boat it will always get wet. Not trying to jap Bjornas but you have to see both sides. Yes, I will admit that a mounted radio does get better sound but when I stop on a island or go camping I can just bring the radio with me. If it goes bad I just purchase a new one (I have had my sony for over eight years still works fine). Also does not a new radios have an adaptor for running off the boat battery if needed... good luck
Bella con23 posted 11-12-2006 10:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bella con23  Send Email to Bella con23     
I personally never had a am/fm radio on board until the teens came along. I started carrying a boom box and it was hardly used. Then the Conquest with the built-in Jensen am/fm/cd was purchased and the radio is rarely off. Oh well, small price to keep the kids involved! On the flip side, because it needs a constant feed to maintain presets, time, etc. it also has a tendency to "lock up", and if we don't notice it as we leave the boat for the week, number two battery will be low.
Speedo66 posted 11-14-2006 08:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Speedo66  Send Email to Speedo66     
If you can get by with just a radio, not a CD player, not a living room quality stereo system, but just a radio, try a Sony shower radio.

I have a model ICF-S79V which in addition to AM-FM, also has a weather band and a clock. TV band also if that's any use to you.

It's waterproof, light, small, has digital tuning, great reception, and is easy on batteries.

This one is several years old, so the model may have changed, but it has held up well.

Lake Winni posted 11-14-2006 12:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Lake Winni  Send Email to Lake Winni     
Forget the boom box, go with a fixed install and you'll be much happier! I added a head unit and speakers to my '06 170 and it looks, sounds and works great. I used the same head unit as the factory does (Clarion CMD4) and I used a good set of 6 1/2" marine speakers (Kicker). I mounted the head unit in the console just above the cup holders on that vertical plane, and I mounted the speakers in the lower console facing the RPS. Best thing to do is get a "roto-tool", I have a Dewalt, but there are several manufacturers out there, just go to "the big orange box" if you don't have one, and get a tile bit to cut with. Mark everything off with 2" masking tape, measure a few times to be sure you are 100% on the money as far as being lined up, and start cutting. (BTW, both the head unit and the speakers came with templates for the cut outs). Go slow with the cutting, let the bit do the work cuz when they get hot, they snap (I know this first-hand). And get a set of ear plugs too, when that tools is running and cutting, it is piercing-LOUD! Run a bead of clear silicone around / over everything, esp. the hole for the head unit as there is plywood in there and you want to seal it, and I ran a bead for each speaker as well. There is no wood in the lower console but I did it to prevent any water intrusion while cleaning up or if it should rain while I am out. I then added a powered am/fm antenna I picked up at Circuit City for about $15, mounted it inside the console, up high behind the back rest area for the cooler seat, pulls in a great signal. I also added an input for an iPod in the dash, in the area right above the 12v socket, it is a marine fitting, so there is a cover for it when not in use. All-in-all, it took me a few hours to do the job, but I was very happy with the results. And the head unit has a standard "DIN" chassis behind the face plate, so any brand will fit in that hole should you need to replace it for any reason. Same with the speakers, 6 1/2" is very common so you could replace what you put in with anything of that same size if you ever needed to. If you're not comfortable with the cutting part - which is somewhat natural, nothing like cutting up a new boat ;o) - mask everything off and have your local marina / dealer do it, prob. cost you short money and no worries on your end.

And the best part of the whole deal, the boat is PRE-WIRED for everything, head unit, speakers, etc... so no need to do it yourself. You may have to pop the cover off the 12v box inside the console (on the floor) and connect the yellow wire as mine was run but not hooked up. But aside from that, it is all there and ready to go. I added a switch on the hot side of the power supply to the unit for the memory and the antenna, at the battery box so I can turn it off when I am not using the boat for a period of time so as not to have any added drain on the battery. I also ran the head unit through the toggle switch on the dash so it had a breaker and I could turn the power off to it all-together.

Hope this helps...

Mel Wallace posted 11-14-2006 02:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mel Wallace  Send Email to Mel Wallace     
Lake Winni - thanks for the detailed response. I'm planning on going with the fixed install, just thought it might be better to mount the head unit in the tackle box since I don't fish that much and just roto-tool in the speakers. Either way, I have a couple of questions:

- My first thought was to go with the factory Clarion CMD4, but I didn't think it was set up for IPOD use. I found other units that are IPOD compatible and you just need the $50 connector. I like the idea of the separate IPOD jack in the console.

- Aren't the factory speakers mounted on the sides of the console? It makes sense to mount them toward the helm seat(I assume that is what you refer to as the RPS) as you did, but I'm a purist and wanted to mount them where Boston Whaler does.

- Looking inside the console, it appears you have to relocate a wiring harness to mount the head unit where you did. Correct?

Thanks again for your response. Great site.

Chuck Tribolet posted 11-14-2006 03:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Wear a dust mask while cutting fibreglass.


Chuck

Lake Winni posted 11-14-2006 05:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Lake Winni  Send Email to Lake Winni     
Mel~ See below for my responses.

- My first thought was to go with the factory Clarion CMD4, but I didn't think it was set up for IPOD use. I found other units that are IPOD compatible and you just need the $50 connector. I like the idea of the separate IPOD jack in the console.

*The CMD4 is, there are specific inputs in the back of the unit, just add an RCA style input to 1/8" mini plug jack - got mine at Circuit City for $10, it is a flush mount and looks good. BTW, the top edge of that vertical plane is NOT straight, so you'll need to eyeball the template to be level, don't go by that line. I just kept moving it, standing back and looking - then I had someone else look at it too, just to be sure. And of you are looking for the best place to buy the unit (IMO) - www.abesofmaine.com - best pricing and service by far!

- Aren't the factory speakers mounted on the sides of the console? It makes sense to mount them toward the helm seat(I assume that is what you refer to as the RPS) as you did, but I'm a purist and wanted to mount them where Boston Whaler does.

*Dunno, but they sound (and look) great facing you (the helm seat) while driving and that is the way I have seen others install them. I am not sure there is enough room on the port side with the door in the console, so not sure where you'd mount them? Plus that is just that much more material you'll take away from the side of the console, not sure that is a great idea from a structural standpoint.

- Looking inside the console, it appears you have to relocate a wiring harness to mount the head unit where you did. Correct?

*Yep, just unscrew the wire tie(s) and relocate after you cut the hole, I actually redid all the bundling for the wires and secured accordingly once I was done.

*Oh yeah and do what Chuck said and wear a mask, OR have someone with you hold the nozzle of a shop vac right under the bit as it is cutting and you'll be mostly dust-free and have an easier clean up.

Thanks again for your response. Great site.


Good luck!

jmontani posted 11-15-2006 09:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for jmontani    
Here are the notes from my stereo install on my 170 montauk...

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000734.html

This helps.

Jack

jmontani posted 11-15-2006 10:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for jmontani    
Sorry,

Should read "Hope this helps." Also, there is a link to the install pictures.

Jack

Mel Wallace posted 11-15-2006 12:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mel Wallace  Send Email to Mel Wallace     
Lake Winni - did you have to purchase the Clarion EA1276B IPOD interface or is that only for using the AM/FM/CD head unit controls to operate the IPOD? Thanks again for your info.
Lake Winni posted 11-15-2006 04:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Lake Winni  Send Email to Lake Winni     
I did not, I bought this adapter so I can use my iPod, just plug it in the RCA in jacks on the back of the unit and you're good-to-go. It is called the Jensen JPort...

http://www.northeastmarineelectronics.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=5114

And this is the antenna I bought:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Jensen-Amplified-Marine-AM-FM-Antenna-AN150SR/sem/rpsm/oid/150580/catOid/-16301/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do


LW

Mel Wallace posted 11-15-2006 07:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mel Wallace  Send Email to Mel Wallace     
Lake Winni - so then I assume that when you are playing your IPOD through the speakers, you are controlling the IPOD from the IPOD itself. Correcto? Thanks again.
Lake Winni posted 11-16-2006 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Lake Winni  Send Email to Lake Winni     
That would be correct - where the iPod and the head unit are about 5 inches apart when in use, I didn't see the need to spend the extra coin for that iPod adapter to control it from the head unit.

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