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235 CONQUEST: Fishbox Pumpout
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posted 12-04-2006 08:03 PM ET (US)
I am seriously considering purchasing a 235 Conquest. This boat has in-deck fish boxes but there are no pumpouts in them. I did a search on pumpouts and know that some folks just pull the drain plug while the boat is underway to empty them.
I am considering having the dealer install pumpouts. Do they clog up with scales? Are they worth the effort?
posted 12-05-2006 12:08 AM ET (US)
I have had both pumpout and non pumpout fish boxes on two Boston Whalers.
I like the pumpouts, mine have never clogged up with scales but I am careful about picking out the big pieces before running the pumps. Pumpouts make cleanup a lot easier and faster. I can blead fish in the box and quickly get rid of the bloody water by running the pump.
On the other hand, I didn't find the non pumpout boxes to be that much trouble. Water will siphon out while underway but water will also siphon out by squirting a nozzled hose in the drain hole and then quickly putting the plug back in when the box is empty.
The questions to ask are when retrofitting a boat with pumpouts, are how much does it cost and will it do any damage to the boat. I wouldn't drill a thru hull to install a pumpout. However, if the cost is reasonable, pumpouts are worth it.
posted 12-05-2006 08:19 AM ET (US)
I would strongly recommend the pumpouts. I had a 25-foot Conquest and it did not have the pumpouts. The dealer told me the same thing about just pulling the plugs while underway. That does work fine. The problem was when stuck at the dock with a few days of bad, stormy weather. The fish box on my starboard side would fill with run-off from the bow rainwater. The boat would list to one side until I had to hand pump or "spoon" it out. I checked with the dealer and water came from down the walkway into the starboard box under the Captain's chair and drained into the back fishbox, a poor bit of designing!
When we had bad summer thunderstorms it was a real problem.
posted 12-05-2006 08:48 AM ET (US)
Any well will tend to fill with water from the deck, although I think on the 235 CONQUEST the hatches have gaskets to try to prevent this. On my older Boston Whaler the stern live well hatch is wood and there is no gasket. It will fill to the brim in a heavy rain. I installed a small pump to remove water from the well.
In the 235 CONQUEST with the factory-installed pumpout, where does the outflow from the pump go? To the sea via a through-hull fitting?
posted 12-05-2006 10:34 AM ET (US)
Good Morning Jerry:
I have a 23' Conquest. My two boys and I fish Stripers, Weaks, Fluke, and Black. I never had a fish box on my previous boats and can't believe how fresh the box keeps our catch. I leave the plug out from whenever we start fishing until we head home at which time let the water run out the plug, insert the plug, then I throw a couple of bags of ice in with them. I never use the pump as it can't pump all the water out anyway due to it's location in the side wall of the box. I don't have a problem with rain as the hatch is gasketed and runoff from the hatch is channeled into the scupper plumbing at the rear of the box.
Good luck with your decision.
posted 12-05-2006 12:41 PM ET (US)
Jerry - I had a 20 Outrage with deck well pumpouts and now have a 235 Conquest without them. First, if you're concerned about rainwater and runoff, while the Outrage wells had no gaskets and quickly filled up with runoff from the deck, the 235 has well gasketed wells and hold-down clamps. Once adjusted properly I find mine stay bone dry.
If you do fish and therefore fill them with water, as I did on my Outrage, I suspect that you won't be happy with the pump-out option because the ports are located well above the bottom of the wells. In addition, once one well is pumped out that inlet pulls air and keeps the pumpout in the other well from going much further (they use a common pump).
IMHO, just use the well drains by pulling the plugs while moving. They are in the bottom (as opposed to the end of the well for the pumpout ports), so every drop of water goes out.
Also, don't confuse what happens with 23 Conquests and the new 235's. They are considerably different.
posted 12-05-2006 01:30 PM ET (US)
Have the dealer install the pumpouts!
The fish boxes on new whalers are gasketed.
posted 12-05-2006 07:18 PM ET (US)
Guys I appreciate the feedback. I am an avid fisherman.
I talked to the dealer today and got some more specifics on the installation. First they will use macerator pumps and there will be one pump per fishbox. The route for the plumbing will be as straight as possible from the aft part of the fishbox to the thru hull fixture. Each fishbox will have its own thru hull fixture. The pumps will be wired to the appropriate switches on the helm.
I hope this helps clarify the installation. As always your feedback is appreciated and has been very helpful. I have talked to some of you before about this purchase.
posted 12-05-2006 09:07 PM ET (US)
jimh - As I was winterizing my 23 conquest this evening, I looked at how the fish box pump out is plumbed. There are two drain hole in the rear and topside of the fish box. I assumed that the two scupper outlets on the starboard side of the transom were one for each. Not so. The two drains are twined together and piped to one of the through-hull fitting and the fish box pump utilizes the second through-hull fitting. The pump is a HD Rule as per image -
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