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JoeyP posted 12-15-2006 10:32 AM ET (US)   Profile for JoeyP   Send Email to JoeyP  
Yes, I did search a bit before posting this but I did not find anything on "winter" cover as opposed to everything I found on "mooring" cover.

So here it goes... Has anyone purchased a pre-made custom winter cover for the Montauk either on-line or by other means? I did contact Mills and they do not recommend their mooring covers for heavy snow or ice. Also, the motor cover is made seperately for additional $.

HuronBob posted 12-15-2006 11:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for HuronBob    
Four options for a winter cover-

1. Shrink Wrap
2. homemade cover with plastic tarp and clever supports that keep if from caving in.
3. Car port/portable car/boat structure
4. inside storage.

I don't think there is a conventional cover/mooring cover made that will hold up well to snow/ice...they just are not made for that...

Peter posted 12-15-2006 06:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
Here's a simple thing to do. Make a giant single saw horse that extends from the bow to the stern and then an appropriately sized poly tarp or two over the sawhorse to make an A frame "tent" over the boat.

I just made one of these for my 18 Outrage.

Ingredients I used for the 18 Outrage:

4 10 foot 2 x 4s,
2 12 foot 1 x 6s,
4 appropriate sized nuts/bots to lash 1x6s together,
2 galvanized sawhorse jaws,
1 10 x 12 camoflaged poly tarp,
1 20 x 12 camoflaged poly tarp,
clothesline or bungie cords to tie tarps through the grommets to the trailer.

Jack you trailer up to get the trailer off the wheels, if desired.

Put the the ends of the 2 x 4s in the sawhorse jaws.
Stand the jaws up and place one on the ground at the bow so its leaning against the bow rub rail and slightly in toward the boat and straddling the trailer. Spread the legs apart but not too far to prevent the 1 x 6 from being easily placed in the jaw. Place the other at the stern in the same way straddling the motor.

Lash the 1 x 6s together to have enough length to extend over the motor and as far enough in front of the bow as you desire.

Cut the corners off of each end to smooth off the ends so as to avoid snags the tarps. I put some old cotton socks over the ends to smooth them off.

Support the 1 x 6 in the jaws. Spread the legs apart further to clamp the 1 x 6 firmly in place.

You may need to create a center support to lessen any sagging. I used some extra 1 x 6 and cut a notch in the end the width of the two 1 x 6's lashed together and cut it to length to reach the deck of the boat, placing a piece of 1 x 6 flat on the deck for the end to rest on.

Gently pull the 20 x 12 poly tarps over the 1 x 6 from the bow and then pull the 10 x 12 poly tarp over the 1 x 6 from the stern so there is some overlap between the two. Secure the poly tarps to the trailer using the clothesline.

There should be a nice steep pitch to the "tent" you've just created and any snow or ice shoudl just slide off. Because the frame of the tent is supported on the ground, there is very little weight on the boat and trailer.

Note: You may have to cut the 2x4s down if they cause the 1 x 6 to be too high relative to the boat such that the cover doesn't extend below the gunnels.

Once you've done all the fitting the first time, it takes about 30 minutes or less to cover your boat for the winter.

aubv posted 12-15-2006 09:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
JoeyP,

I can shrink wrap your boat but it would have to be just after New years day.

Hope all is well.

JoeyP posted 12-16-2006 11:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
Pete,

thanks for all the info. I did exactly what you descibed on a previous wellcraft I owned. I just have a storage problem with the contructed frame during the season.

JoeyP posted 12-16-2006 11:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
AUBV,

Great to hear from you. I'll drop you an e-mail.

swist posted 12-17-2006 07:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for swist  Send Email to swist     
It is perhaps interesting that Winter covers are not (to my knowledge) commercially made. I would be certainly interested, but I have a feeling they would be very expensive since you would need much more canvas it in, plus some sort of frame to hold it up in a tent position so it would shed snow. If someone like Mills made this you could see it costing $1K-$2K, but there clearly is no market - you don't see them offered for other brands either.
Newtauk1 posted 12-17-2006 01:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
Another alternative is to buy a mooring cover that will cover the boat and motor. There are several makers that have the exact Montauk specs. cover the boat with the mooring cover using straps to secure the cover is tight. Now cover the the boat and mooring cover with a strong tarp. Spend the extra money and buy the silver heavy gauge tarp not the cheap blue ones.

strap the tarp dowm snug. The only palce that may accumulate snow or water is near the bow. Put something in the boat if need be the prop it up in that area.

swist posted 12-18-2006 07:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for swist  Send Email to swist     
I don't believe the slope of a mooring cover will be steep enough to reliably shed all types of snow, particularly heavy wet stuff. You need something to make it more a-frame like.

Just remember that the weight of even a small amount of snow can be considerable - if it starts to accumulate, it will quickly depress the surface of the cover even more, thus allowing it to accumulate more snow and then you are in a death spiral.

I know because I did this wrong on one of my first boats - using a mooring cover and hoping the console top would hold it up high enough. Came back to the boat after one big storm and found the windshield frame bent broken and crushed.

MonkeysRun posted 12-19-2006 03:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for MonkeysRun  Send Email to MonkeysRun     
No matter how you try and do it, nothing covers your boat for the winter like shrink wrap.
I did mine myself this year and am amazed at how easy it was to do. Not sure where you are located, but if you are in or near massachusetts I can help you out for cheap money.
MonkeysRun posted 12-19-2006 04:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for MonkeysRun  Send Email to MonkeysRun     
Sorry Joey just saw you were located in NJ. Nevermind.
Casco Bay Outrage posted 12-19-2006 04:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Casco Bay Outrage  Send Email to Casco Bay Outrage     
I am in Maine and use a modified design similar to Peter's suggestion in my backyard.

I must credit John O for this design.

The 2 sawhorses I made (2x4's with brackets) are inside the boat. The rear horse is longer and goes from the back of the engine to the console rail. The forward horse goes from the console to a bit past the bow. The top horse rails are above the console rail so the snow will slide off.

I use a 24 x 14 tarp (not expensive at Hamilton Marine.com) and it covers the whole boat and trailer. I tie the tarp off tight with a vent area in the bow/stern.

My tarp has lasted me 3 seasons so far. Hate the idea of wasting that much plastic year after year.

Let me know if you want more information.

CBO

JoeyP posted 12-19-2006 09:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
I actually do like the idea of shrink wrapping but as mentioned before I too hate the idea of wasted plastic year after year.

How do you keep the tarp tied down tight? My experience with a loose fitting tarp has always resulted in a mess.

Beaner posted 12-20-2006 09:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for Beaner  Send Email to Beaner     

I also use the giant "saw horse" and tarp method described by others for my Montauk. I use 2x4's with a plastic saw horse bracket (I think its made by Skil) to create the saw horse. The bracket is reusable and can be assembled or taken apart. I take the horse apart during the season and leave the lumber in a corner of my property on the ground. Even the 2x4x14 and the 4 legs fit nicely on the ground near a fence. Hope this helps.
Casco Bay Outrage posted 12-20-2006 01:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Casco Bay Outrage  Send Email to Casco Bay Outrage     
For tie downs I use bungy cords I made up. You can get the cord by the foot and a bag of hooks at a hardware store. I think there are 9 or 10 per side (each grommet of the tarp).

On my Montauk and the Outrage, the bow area is not taught but not super tight since it does wrap around the rails. I find that the first 2 inches of snow will accumulate on the bow. More than that and it all slides off.

While I could add some struts so the tarp did not wrap on the bow rails, I usually check the tarp during the winter. If you are storing the boat at a remote location, I would add the struts.

CBO

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