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Scott Grey posted 01-08-2007 04:28 PM ET (US)   Profile for Scott Grey   Send Email to Scott Grey  
After reading many personal opinions on this site and four years later I purchased a 190 Outrage with the 150 Verado. All I can say is WOW! I have always been impressed with the Boston Whaler boats, but this boat and motor combination is insane! I took 3 adults and three children for our first time out in my new boat. My buddy brought his 22-footer along and followed. This boat will jump out of the water and plane with very little effort. The supercharger really winds the [engine speed] quickly. I have been in several other outboard boats and was not impressed with the hole shot. The break-in says for the first two hours, for one minute every ten minutes run at full throttle which runs about 42 MPH with six people. I've looked at boats for half the price and decided to hold out until I could afford a Boston Whaler boat. I'm very pleased with my purchase so far and hope the hype is worth all the money.
WT posted 01-08-2007 04:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Wow!!!

Nice setup.

Warren

JerryV posted 01-08-2007 05:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for JerryV  Send Email to JerryV     
Congratulations Scott!

This is exactly the same set up I want. I do have a few questions. On your maiden voyage were you carrying a full tank of gas? What kind of speed are you seeing with a light load? I hear a 150 yamaha will touch 50 with a light load.

Good luck with your purchase.

Sal A posted 01-08-2007 05:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
Wow! Our first 150-Verado-powered 190! I had an F150 on mine. Post some links to pictures! and Congrats.
podosky posted 01-08-2007 07:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for podosky  Send Email to podosky     
Scott: Congratulations on your new boat! We have a 150 Verado on our new 180 Dauntless. I was impressed as you were with our first ride. The hole shot is unbelievable, I have to make sure everyone is holding on. Good luck with the new boat!

Mike

Yiddil posted 01-08-2007 09:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Congrates on the new Nantucket! I Mean Outrage!!! hehe

Thats the best darn boat out there!! use it in good health and safety

tombro posted 01-09-2007 02:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
Congrats! Yeah, those V's spool up pretty quick; I've got a 225.
jimh posted 01-10-2007 02:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The 150-HP Verado is an in-line four cylinder. The larger Verado motors are in-line six cylinders.

I had a very brief chance to run a 190 NANTUCKET with a 150-HP Verado. We had a boat load of people aboard. The motor seemed very well suited to the boat. The DTS controls will likely soon make you wonder how you lived without them.

Scott Grey posted 01-10-2007 05:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
I have kept the tank full and with 6 people it will do 42 mph. Three good-sized adults and three children around 60-lbs to 80-lbs. We took a lot of photos on the boat but don't have many of the outside. I'll take some tonight. Not sure how to post them. I don't know if I mentioned it has a custom T-top that looks very similar to the larger Boston Whaler boats with the curved upright posts and double upper bow, which also probably add some nice weight. Also when I was checking in the beginning of the year for the Nantucket I didn't see it listed as a Legend boat and was upset that they may have discontinued that model. Then I realized they changed the name to the 190 outrage. Last weekend we took the boat out with my buddy and his boat. We were crossing Lake George near Ocala Florida with about the same cargo weight and I saw him trying to pass me out of the corner of my eye so I gassed it and left him standing there. That was awsome!
JerryV posted 01-10-2007 07:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for JerryV  Send Email to JerryV     
Awesome!! 42mph with full fuel, 4 adults :) and a t-top. This just makes me want one more.
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 01-10-2007 09:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
That thing sounds like a beast!42 mph with a load like that is very impressive,can't wait to hear how she runs light and airy ;o) Hows the ride and the static trim with the Verdoe on the back?
uidb5298 posted 01-11-2007 10:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for uidb5298    
I have the exact same setup (2006 190 Outrage/150 Verado) and I am equally impressed with this power plant and hull. Fishing on Saginaw bay with my pop, full tank of fuel, we almost hit 50mph in about 6-8" chop.

I love the boat and congrats on getting one for yourself!

Greg

Scott Grey posted 01-11-2007 11:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
The ride is really nice but have not had a chance to use it in any chop. Lake george is pretty shallow lake (my average depth was 8-12ft for at least a couple miles so it is usually very choppy with white caps when the wind is kicking)and was looking forward to that crossing (solid hull, dry ride) but that day it was pretty flat. I used the boat all day saturday and half a day on sunday crossing boat wakes and such and not one drop or spray of water in the boat which is really awsome.
prj posted 01-11-2007 11:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for prj  Send Email to prj     
It would be very informative and helpful
if one of you guys would publish a thorough performance test
with your new boat and engine.

GPS measured speed in noted water and temperature conditions,
with known load conditions (preferrably light to max the numbers),
all noted in a table with RPM and speed.

Publish it under a new title in the Performance section
and I'm sure it would generate much discussion and deliberation.

Perry posted 01-11-2007 11:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
quote:
I have the exact same setup (2006 190 Outrage/150 Verado) and I am equally impressed with this power plant and hull. Fishing on Saginaw bay with my pop, full tank of fuel, we almost hit 50mph in about 6-8" chop

I also would like to see a detailed performance report from a GPS including fuel cunsumption of a 190 Outrage with a 150 Verado. Boston Whaler claims 44.3 MPH at WOT with this same set-up.

bluewaterpirate posted 01-11-2007 12:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Here's your benchmark Perry ...... click on Performance Data upper right corner of the page. Looks like the reported numbers are in the ballpark.

http://www.whaler.com/Rec/default.asp?content=boats&family=outrage& number=190&type=Outrage

Tom

highanddry posted 01-11-2007 02:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
How does it sit static?

From BW performance graphs the Opti 150 is the top performer of OFFERED engines. Would love to see Honda and Yamaha included and offered of course.

Top noted speed on my boat has been about 48 MPH.

I can easily hit 42 to 44 MPH even loaded with four adults, full fuel, two dogs and two sets of scuba gear plus all the other stuff and the bimini up. The Verado 150 is a great engine on a great boat but don't think you should pick a race with a Nantucket and Opti 150, you get whipped.

Just as you think your fast, somebody will blow by you like your sitting still with a thirty footer and triple engines, fast is relative and mostly of no consequence other than demonstrating reserve power--and fun

H&D

Scott Grey posted 01-11-2007 04:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
I know there is always a faster boat out there and really wasn't trying to note otherwise, i personally was very impressed on the speed and hole shot of the verado. For me this is a fishing and all around boat for my family. I had a hard time choosing between the verado and the opti. The verado had a longer free extended warranty than the opti. I also like having the DTS throttle and shift which is like cruise control. you set it at 4000 rpm and it stays even into a hard turn it dosen't drop off, it stays at 4000 rpm.
Perry posted 01-11-2007 05:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
quote:
don't think you should pick a race with a Nantucket and Opti 150, you get whipped.

I have and although the Opti 150 powered Nantucket had a better holeshot than my Nantucket, I pulled away from him at top end speed. Oh.. and my motor is a BF135

Scott Grey posted 01-11-2007 05:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
BW info in there performance review is that the 150 opti's 44.5 is .2 MPH faster than the 150 verado 44.3 MPH. I would say that's pretty close. Not to say one is better than the other, there are several factors on both motors to consider.
Some motors run stronger than others. The verado is suppose to run between 5800 and 6400 rpm at WOT (thats a pretty good spread on a WOT). any more or less they change the prop to raise or lower the rpm.
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 01-11-2007 05:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
Perry-That sounds like a serious fish story,or the Opti had a plug wire off lol
Jordi posted 01-11-2007 06:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi    
The performace is only one side of the coin, eventhough they are almost the same. The verdic is still out on the long-term reliability of the V6 vs. inline 4 supercharged engines.
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 01-11-2007 07:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
oops sorry Perry,you just might be right as i forgot to ask what size boat the opti powered 19 was towing when you raced. ;o)
Perry posted 01-11-2007 09:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
Bob, I know it is hard for you to believe that any motor can out run a Mercury. The Opti powered Nantucket is owned by someone I see on the bay often and is good for a solid 45 MPH but mine topped out at over 46 MPH before I added the T-TOP. Now with a full tank, T-TOP and 3 adults it can still hit 44 MPH. If you don't believe me, you are welcome to join me for a ride on my boat. You wouldn't be the first forum member to see how it performs.
highanddry posted 01-12-2007 04:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Well, I was not inteneding to start a race--lol.

To me, quibbling over a couple of MPH is not important, I think the "hole shot" is more important ansd the Opti has it in spades and it aloows the boat, this case a Nantucket, to respond quickly and effortlessly even when heavily loaded.

BOB KEMMLER JR posted 01-12-2007 10:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
Wasn't doubting it because it was a Mercury you beat Perry,not at all.Just didn't seem right to me because it was a 4 stroke rated at 15hp less outrunning a dfi 2 stroke,regardless of the make.Maybe the Merc guy needs plugs and a better prop?Either way 44-46 mph on that hull with a 135 is very respectable.*thumbs up*
Scott Grey posted 01-14-2007 08:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
I have photos of my outrage 190 i would like to post but not sure how to do. Let me know..
Perry posted 01-15-2007 10:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
Scott, go to photobucket and sign up, it's free. Add your pics to your photobucket page and then post the links here. Add a: [url] before the link and a [/url] after the link so it will be a "hot link".

http://photobucket.com/

Scott Grey posted 01-16-2007 03:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/SGOUTRAGE/P1010051.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/SGOUTRAGE/P1010064.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/SGOUTRAGE/P1010012.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/SGOUTRAGE/P1010015.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/SGOUTRAGE/P1010010.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/SGOUTRAGE/P1010005.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/SGOUTRAGE/P1010014.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/SGOUTRAGE/100_1358.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p135/SGOUTRAGE/100_1368.jpg
Scott Grey posted 01-16-2007 04:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
Some of the links posted weird, Not sure what to say...
bluewaterpirate posted 01-16-2007 04:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
It's like Christmas all over .... great ride!

Tom

Livingwater posted 01-16-2007 08:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livingwater  Send Email to Livingwater     
I went from a 24 ft Stingray with a Volvo Penta 280 HP duoprop to the 190 Nantucket with the 150 Optimax.

The optimax is is a lot louder however It scares me to open her up. She is extremely fast!

From what I read the 150 Verado is extremely smooth running and quiet.

Congratulations on your new boat[/b]

imko posted 05-16-2007 06:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for imko  Send Email to imko     
Scott,

Do you use the 17" Mirage prop?
Is the 18" Enertia a good prop for this setup?

Best regards,

Imko

bkloss posted 05-17-2007 09:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for bkloss  Send Email to bkloss     
One more week for me to wait before I get my new Outrage 210 with the 200 Verado.

You are killing me with your report and pictures on your new Outrage!

Congrats!

Brian

Scott Grey posted 05-20-2007 09:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
Currently using the 17" mirage prop. I have posted some new photos in this section under new photos of my 190 outrage with trolling motor.
Mambo Minnow posted 05-27-2007 08:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mambo Minnow    
Looks like you were sea trialing in my neck of the woods. I recognize the bridges.
jimh posted 05-27-2007 10:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Repaired all of the broken photo links above.]

Please note this discussion originated in January 2007.

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