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wilbur posted 01-10-2007 08:50 PM ET (US)
Want to buy a Grady White 185 vs. Boston Whaler 180 Dauntless or Outrage 190 for inshore fishing. After riding all boats and comparing hulls, engines, fit/fininsh the Grady White feels like the best boat. Any suggestions?
Wilbur
WT posted 01-10-2007 08:57 PM ET (US)
Wilbur:
Save your money. Buy an aluminum boat.
It must be winter.
Mr. Ed
wilbur posted 01-10-2007 09:16 PM ET (US)
Mr. Ed,
Does Boston Whaler make aluminum boats?
kamie posted 01-10-2007 09:26 PM ET (US)
Wilbur,

If you want to buy a Grady, then buy one but the 185 is a bow rider, split console which is not the typical setup for fishing. If fishing is your intended sport, then I would suggest the Outrage, but I own a whaler, not a Grady so take that into consideration. If your after comments on both boats, there are folks here that own or have owned both Grady's and Whalers so they may chime in, otherwise I suggest you search the site to see if others before you have ask that very same question.
jimh posted 01-10-2007 09:37 PM ET (US)
Ask the salesman to take you out in the Grady. Tell the salesman you want to pull all the plugs and open all the seacocks so that the boat is filling with water from the sea. Let us know what he says.
podosky posted 01-10-2007 09:47 PM ET (US)
Wilbur: I can't say I agree with your assesment as we had similar needs and chose the 180 Dauntless. Nonetheless, if you are leaning in the direction of the Grady I think you may be at the wrong website. You may want to check out Greatgrady.com
Bella con23 posted 01-10-2007 10:40 PM ET (US)
Jimh - Wish I thought of that as I was talking to the Grady salesman at the New Your boat show and he was trying to convince me that all the boats in the show were "unsinkable".
Next time!
early light posted 01-10-2007 10:55 PM ET (US)
I crewed on a 25' GW Sailfish with twin engines during king tournaments for two seasons, mainly fishing ar's,ledges,and tide lines in close to the beach and inlets. The boat handled the wave action pretty good but was kind of hard to catch bait and land fish out of.
Now I own a 1993 outrage 19 with a single 150 engine and it is a lot better boat as far as catching bait, fish, and buying fuel for. Had it out 32 miles on a live bottom area three times this year, still checking things out as this is a used boat,but It raised kings like I haven't seen in a long time, and it handles the water better than My old 22'stern drive did. The Whaler just feels good running big water.
The Grady was a nice boat but I had rather fish the Whaler, it is laid out for fishing better than the GW IMHO.
Donald

jimh posted 01-11-2007 12:09 AM ET (US)
Part two of the test:
Ask the salesman to back down hard in the Grady until water ships over the transom and begins to flood the interior spaces of the hull.
Jordi posted 01-11-2007 08:11 AM ET (US)
Wilbur,
You have a better chance of convincing Mr. Ed to talk to other's....than getting sound advice on a Grady White in a Boston Whaler site. It's like going to a BMW dealer and asking the salesman how great Porches are.....You are at least comparing some of the best boats in the industry.
Jordi
wilbur posted 01-11-2007 08:32 AM ET (US)
Part three of the test:
Pull all the plugs and open all the seacocks, back down until water begins to flood the interior spaces of the hull and ask Mr. Ed to whisper to Jim H “how great Whalers are”…if that does not work at least I know Mr. Ed will always talk to me.
Wilbur
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 01-11-2007 11:04 AM ET (US)
Did GW ever fix that Transom rot issue they all seemed to have?Can't say i ever seen a Whaler with a rotted transom,but i have seen over a dozen GW's with that problem.
stagalv posted 01-11-2007 11:53 AM ET (US)
Hey Wilber - remember that if it is a bow rider / dual console type you are looking for, Whaler makes (made?) the Ventura series that may fit you well.
Rex
jsgrise posted 01-12-2007 10:06 AM ET (US)
The only thing I have to say is that my "ex" Dauntless saved my life when I was 13. Pushed onto rocks by powerfull swell, a GW would have probably break in half. and I would probably have been squeezed between the riped hull and the rocks. That's why nothing else his going to be tie at my dock. No other boats, IMHO, is as strong as a Whaler. My T-Top manufacturer told be that, by his experience, over 20 years, he've never seen such a solid construction. When trying to fix my T-Top onto my 210 Outrage deck, he striped 16 stailess steel screws.
Does that convince you enough?
bluewaterpirate posted 01-12-2007 10:22 AM ET (US)
Whaler makes 2 great dual console boats 180 Ventura & the 210 Ventura. I own a 210 and fish it all the time. It's just a terrific boat. Here are a couple of pictures of our 210 Ventura .......
http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/album/175819/235674/11010043
http://home.earthlink.net/~bluewaterpirate/sitebuildercontent/ sitebuilderpictures/speakers.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~bluewaterpirate/sitebuildercontent/ sitebuilderpictures/twoofakind.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~bluewaterpirate/sitebuildercontent/ sitebuilderpictures/ventura210crop.jpg
Some comparison specs .....
GW185 7'5" beam
Gas 60 gallons
BW 180 Ventura 8' beam
Gas 60 gallons
GW 225 8' beam
gas 96 gallons
BW 210 Ventura 8' 4" beam
Gas 92 gallons
Tom
David1877 posted 01-12-2007 05:03 PM ET (US)
What type of fishing and where?
I owned a dauntless 18. It is a very stable rig and serves as an excellent fishing platform. The hull is self-bailing.
If you want a trolling motor, consider a Dauntless without the bow rail.
If you are fishing a large body of water ie: ocean or great lakes, you might be better off with an Outrage hull design which will provide a better ride in rough seas than the Dauntless, but it might be less stable.
I have no personal experience with the Grady line, but most of their hulls appear to be a deeper design than the Dauntless, more similar to the Outrage series.
I now have an Eastport 205, which has a deeper hull than the Dauntless 18. For fishing Lake Michigan, the Dauntless rocked less. Definitely more stable. The Eastport is a better ride in rougher seas, but I cant say it is any safer.
I think the Eastport is a better trolling rig. The dauntless is a better casting platform.
Try to find a boat that will suit your needs.
Traveller posted 01-12-2007 06:56 PM ET (US)
I too would like to know what you mean by "inshore" fishing before offering advice. If you mean to use to boat to prowl the ICW and explore creeks for fish like flounder, sea trout, or redfish, I would recommend the Dauntless 180 with an electric trolling motor on the bow. If you are going to be going out the inlet into the open ocean, I'd recommend a boat with a higher freeboard, like the Outrage or the Ventura. I personally love the Montauks, but that line of boats wasn't a part of your list.
Whatever boat you choose, use it safely and enjoy your time on the water.
imko posted 01-17-2007 02:58 PM ET (US)
I am a Boston Whaler fan but Grady White makes also verry good boats
see: http://www.jdpower.com/boats/fishing
Regards,
Imko
swist posted 01-18-2007 08:00 AM ET (US)
I thought I had sticker shock looking at Whaler prices until I took a look at the local Grady dealer! And they are hard to compare anyway, because the model lineups are so different. I wanted a small boat and Grady has nothing like a Montauk 17 (at least not a few years ago).

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Author	Topic: grady white vs. boston whaler
wilbur	posted 01-10-2007 08:50 PM ET (US) Want to buy a Grady White 185 vs. Boston Whaler 180 Dauntless or Outrage 190 for inshore fishing. After riding all boats and comparing hulls, engines, fit/fininsh the Grady White feels like the best boat. Any suggestions? Wilbur
WT	posted 01-10-2007 08:57 PM ET (US) Wilbur: Save your money. Buy an aluminum boat. It must be winter. Mr. Ed
wilbur	posted 01-10-2007 09:16 PM ET (US) Mr. Ed, Does Boston Whaler make aluminum boats?
kamie	posted 01-10-2007 09:26 PM ET (US) Wilbur, If you want to buy a Grady, then buy one but the 185 is a bow rider, split console which is not the typical setup for fishing. If fishing is your intended sport, then I would suggest the Outrage, but I own a whaler, not a Grady so take that into consideration. If your after comments on both boats, there are folks here that own or have owned both Grady's and Whalers so they may chime in, otherwise I suggest you search the site to see if others before you have ask that very same question.
jimh	posted 01-10-2007 09:37 PM ET (US) Ask the salesman to take you out in the Grady. Tell the salesman you want to pull all the plugs and open all the seacocks so that the boat is filling with water from the sea. Let us know what he says.
podosky	posted 01-10-2007 09:47 PM ET (US) Wilbur: I can't say I agree with your assesment as we had similar needs and chose the 180 Dauntless. Nonetheless, if you are leaning in the direction of the Grady I think you may be at the wrong website. You may want to check out Greatgrady.com
Bella con23	posted 01-10-2007 10:40 PM ET (US) Jimh - Wish I thought of that as I was talking to the Grady salesman at the New Your boat show and he was trying to convince me that all the boats in the show were "unsinkable". Next time!
early light	posted 01-10-2007 10:55 PM ET (US) I crewed on a 25' GW Sailfish with twin engines during king tournaments for two seasons, mainly fishing ar's,ledges,and tide lines in close to the beach and inlets. The boat handled the wave action pretty good but was kind of hard to catch bait and land fish out of. Now I own a 1993 outrage 19 with a single 150 engine and it is a lot better boat as far as catching bait, fish, and buying fuel for. Had it out 32 miles on a live bottom area three times this year, still checking things out as this is a used boat,but It raised kings like I haven't seen in a long time, and it handles the water better than My old 22'stern drive did. The Whaler just feels good running big water. The Grady was a nice boat but I had rather fish the Whaler, it is laid out for fishing better than the GW IMHO. Donald
jimh	posted 01-11-2007 12:09 AM ET (US) Part two of the test: Ask the salesman to back down hard in the Grady until water ships over the transom and begins to flood the interior spaces of the hull.
Jordi	posted 01-11-2007 08:11 AM ET (US) Wilbur, You have a better chance of convincing Mr. Ed to talk to other's....than getting sound advice on a Grady White in a Boston Whaler site. It's like going to a BMW dealer and asking the salesman how great Porches are.....You are at least comparing some of the best boats in the industry. Jordi
wilbur	posted 01-11-2007 08:32 AM ET (US) Part three of the test: Pull all the plugs and open all the seacocks, back down until water begins to flood the interior spaces of the hull and ask Mr. Ed to whisper to Jim H “how great Whalers are”…if that does not work at least I know Mr. Ed will always talk to me. Wilbur
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 01-11-2007 11:04 AM ET (US) Did GW ever fix that Transom rot issue they all seemed to have?Can't say i ever seen a Whaler with a rotted transom,but i have seen over a dozen GW's with that problem.
stagalv	posted 01-11-2007 11:53 AM ET (US) Hey Wilber - remember that if it is a bow rider / dual console type you are looking for, Whaler makes (made?) the Ventura series that may fit you well. Rex
jsgrise	posted 01-12-2007 10:06 AM ET (US) The only thing I have to say is that my "ex" Dauntless saved my life when I was 13. Pushed onto rocks by powerfull swell, a GW would have probably break in half. and I would probably have been squeezed between the riped hull and the rocks. That's why nothing else his going to be tie at my dock. No other boats, IMHO, is as strong as a Whaler. My T-Top manufacturer told be that, by his experience, over 20 years, he've never seen such a solid construction. When trying to fix my T-Top onto my 210 Outrage deck, he striped 16 stailess steel screws. Does that convince you enough?
bluewaterpirate	posted 01-12-2007 10:22 AM ET (US) Whaler makes 2 great dual console boats 180 Ventura & the 210 Ventura. I own a 210 and fish it all the time. It's just a terrific boat. Here are a couple of pictures of our 210 Ventura ....... http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/album/175819/235674/11010043 http://home.earthlink.net/~bluewaterpirate/sitebuildercontent/ sitebuilderpictures/speakers.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~bluewaterpirate/sitebuildercontent/ sitebuilderpictures/twoofakind.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~bluewaterpirate/sitebuildercontent/ sitebuilderpictures/ventura210crop.jpg Some comparison specs ..... GW185 7'5" beam Gas 60 gallons BW 180 Ventura 8' beam Gas 60 gallons GW 225 8' beam gas 96 gallons BW 210 Ventura 8' 4" beam Gas 92 gallons Tom
David1877	posted 01-12-2007 05:03 PM ET (US) What type of fishing and where? I owned a dauntless 18. It is a very stable rig and serves as an excellent fishing platform. The hull is self-bailing. If you want a trolling motor, consider a Dauntless without the bow rail. If you are fishing a large body of water ie: ocean or great lakes, you might be better off with an Outrage hull design which will provide a better ride in rough seas than the Dauntless, but it might be less stable. I have no personal experience with the Grady line, but most of their hulls appear to be a deeper design than the Dauntless, more similar to the Outrage series. I now have an Eastport 205, which has a deeper hull than the Dauntless 18. For fishing Lake Michigan, the Dauntless rocked less. Definitely more stable. The Eastport is a better ride in rougher seas, but I cant say it is any safer. I think the Eastport is a better trolling rig. The dauntless is a better casting platform. Try to find a boat that will suit your needs.
Traveller	posted 01-12-2007 06:56 PM ET (US) I too would like to know what you mean by "inshore" fishing before offering advice. If you mean to use to boat to prowl the ICW and explore creeks for fish like flounder, sea trout, or redfish, I would recommend the Dauntless 180 with an electric trolling motor on the bow. If you are going to be going out the inlet into the open ocean, I'd recommend a boat with a higher freeboard, like the Outrage or the Ventura. I personally love the Montauks, but that line of boats wasn't a part of your list. Whatever boat you choose, use it safely and enjoy your time on the water.
imko	posted 01-17-2007 02:58 PM ET (US) I am a Boston Whaler fan but Grady White makes also verry good boats see: http://www.jdpower.com/boats/fishing Regards, Imko
swist	posted 01-18-2007 08:00 AM ET (US) I thought I had sticker shock looking at Whaler prices until I took a look at the local Grady dealer! And they are hard to compare anyway, because the model lineups are so different. I wanted a small boat and Grady has nothing like a Montauk 17 (at least not a few years ago).