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Feejer posted 02-22-2007 05:05 PM ET (US)   Profile for Feejer   Send Email to Feejer  
I [may] buy [a 2004 Dauntless 16 with Mercury 115-HP four-stroke], however the engine seems HUGE for the size of the boat. I realize the 16 has a maximum horsepower of 115. [Wants to know of] any problems with the boat squating or water coming in thru the scuppers? Thanks
Jefecinco posted 02-22-2007 07:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
I have a similar arrangement. My boat is a 1999 Daubtless 16 with a notched hull at the transom. It has a 115 HP Evinrude which weighs about 350 pounds. The Dauntless 16 with a 115 HP engine is not overpowered. I'd say it's just right. The Evinrude may weigh a little bit less but as the 2004 hull does not have the transom notch things are probably very equal.

With enough weight placed behind the helm seat you can get a little water in through the scuppers but never enough to cause any discomfort or problem. Some folks use Rabud (?) scupper flaps with the ping pong like arrangement. I have not tried them as I don't consider it a problem.

You can get some squat during hole shot but that is controllable with a propeller chosen to overcome it. I solved the issue fairly well by adding a Stingray Hydrofoil Stabilizer to the anticavitation plate of the engine. A very inexpensive if not quite peerfect solution.

I highly recommend the boat with a 115 HP engine.

Butch

Feejer posted 02-22-2007 08:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Thanks for the info. I know nothing about whalers and could use all the info i can find.
Marlin posted 02-22-2007 08:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marlin  Send Email to Marlin     
I have the same boat and motor in the 2003 model year. Yes, it's a pretty big outboard, but it's a good match for the boat in terms of power. Normally I do not have any water in the cockpit from the scuppers, however with a full tank of gas I will get perhaps 1/2-inch of water if I sit in the stern. That happens in freshwater only, not in saltwater. For a photo that shows the static waterline on the transom, with a full tank of fuel in freshwater, see:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/GoldenDaze/GoldenDaze/D160stern2. jpg

A lower-unit hydrofoil is very useful on this boat to control bow-rise, reduce minimum planing speed, keep the bow down in chop, and reduce porpoising. Also, the right propeller will make a big difference in performance. The boat you're looking at probably has a 13-1/8 x 16 Vengeance stainless prop. It's not a bad choice, and should give a top speed around 44 MPH. However, a 17-inch Trophy Plus will dramatically improve acceleration with minimal impact to top speed.

This boat is by far the most stable, most versatile, and most seaworthy 16-footer I've ever seen.

-Bob

andygere posted 02-22-2007 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
My dad has a Dauntless 16 with a 2-stroke 90 h.p. In my opinion, the boat is underpowered, and needs all of the rated 115 h.p. I agree with others that it is a lot of boat for its size, well made and well mannered. It does a lot of things well, and should be a good runner with the 115.
jimh posted 02-22-2007 11:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Moved this article to POST-CLASSIC.
jimh posted 02-22-2007 11:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
All four-stroke engines seem HUGE. At least all the ones over about 75-HP.

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