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jimmy c posted 02-24-2007 09:32 PM ET (US)   Profile for jimmy c   Send Email to jimmy c  
Why are older 21 Conquest or the 205 Eastports not selling well on the used boat market? The prices seem to be very low especially for the 21 Conquest that I think are a better boat than the newer ones. Pro's and Con please. Thanks.
jimh posted 02-25-2007 02:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
If you like the boat and the prices are low, it sounds like a good time to buy.

Given the current economic conditions, discretionary items like boats seem to be selling at lower than normal prices. That probably reflects supply and demand.

David1877 posted 02-26-2007 06:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for David1877  Send Email to David1877     
I think the Eastport and Conquest 205 did not meet sales expectations. I did a search not too long ago and found a few new 2005 models are for sale. Whaler is offering rebates on a number of models to boost sales.

I purchased a 2005 Eastport and I got a pretty good deal. It is a good time to buy. If you can locate a 2005 Eastport you might get a great deal on it.

The Eastport 205 and the Conquest 205 are the same boat. Whaler renamed it after the 2005 model year.

The larger Conquests offer larger cabins and the hulls might be deeper, but I am not certain of that.

The Eastport 205 is a great fishing rig.

jimh posted 02-27-2007 10:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I am curious about the source of your sales data. Please give us more data on the sales of these boats.
jimmy c posted 02-27-2007 02:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimmy c  Send Email to jimmy c     
In my view of the web this pas weekend on 1998-99 Conquest I found some at 31-$32,000 and some as low as 17-$18,000 and some all over the place.
Of coarse the optons varied..one of the high priced ones had a hard top.
Most had 200-225hp Merc,s and Johnsons.most had Bimini,s with full canvas,GPS,VHF and fish finders.most had trailers with them exception one of the high priced ones.
Some are more than double the price of others.What I found odd is that none have been sold.
On the newer 205,s the dealers are discounting the heck out of them.I have never seen Whaler dealers giving such large discounts ( yacht world)

Prices and discounts all over the place and none seem to be selling....Whats wrong with these boats ? ( if anything)

I have been looking at a 1998 21 Coquest
1998 200HP Evinrude ( carbs)
GPS, fish finder,VHF
Bimini with full canvas
raw water wash down
cockpit bolsters
duel batterys
porta-potti
bow pulpet with anchor
bottem painted
boatel kept
140 hours....dealer maintained
Brand new Performance alumimum trailer
tandam axel with brakes
what should I realistically pay for this rig?

David1877 posted 03-02-2007 05:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for David1877  Send Email to David1877     
My comment about sales data is based on my own personal observations and nothing more.

I purchased my boat last July. At that time, two dealers in WI had an Eastport 205.

Al at TCM had one in inventory and had not sold others. Gage Marine also had a boat. Not long ago I noticed a posting from Brian at Gage Marine about a 2005 Eastport in invtory. I suspect it is the same 2005 Eastport I looked at last summer.

I occassionally browse www.boattraderonline.com. The last time I looked earlier this year, there were several (5 or six)new 2005 boats advertised. Ads may/may not be current.

I have no idea how long the average boat sits in inventory. Maybe it is not uncommon for a boat to sit around for six months or more.

There was an article in the Wall Street Journal about 2 weeks ago about truck sales. According to the article, 6 months production of Dodge trucks is currently sitting on dealer lots.

Perhaps there is a limited market for a 20 foot boat over 40K or maybe buyers may be weary until the boat has been put for a few years.

gorji posted 03-03-2007 08:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for gorji  Send Email to gorji     
Last year I purchased a used Eastport from someone in CT. The boat sold for below market value. It was end of the season and we were both happy. Its a great boat that I will discover alot more in a few month when the ice melt.

At that time, there were a few unsold Eastports with rebates from BW.

gorji posted 03-03-2007 08:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for gorji  Send Email to gorji     
Last year I purchased a used Eastport from someone in CT. The boat sold for below market value. It was end of the season and we were both happy. Its a great boat that I will discover alot more in a few month when the ice melt.

At that time, there were a few unsold Eastports with rebates from BW.

David1877 posted 03-06-2007 01:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for David1877  Send Email to David1877     
Gorji-

Is your baot rigged with trim tabs? If so, do you have a swin ladder?

I am considering the addition of tabs on my boat.

gorji posted 03-06-2007 03:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for gorji  Send Email to gorji     
Hi:

No, I do not have trim tabs.
I love the layout of the Eastport. SOOOOO much room. And a little cabin to get out of the elements when the time comes.

Gorji

David1877 posted 03-09-2007 03:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for David1877  Send Email to David1877     
I might install a set this year. If you want some feedback, send me a note mid June. If I get them, I will have some experience with them by then.

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