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boatdryver posted 03-03-2007 11:02 AM ET (US)   Profile for boatdryver   Send Email to boatdryver  
I'm thinking of going to a 190 Montauk or Nantucket/Outrage 19 from my old friend the Classic Montauk.

I'd like to hear some input from owners of the Nantucket/Outrage as to one issue.

About half of our outings involve beaching on sand and hopping off the square, low, bow of the Classic Montauk for a beach picnic, which is very easy. Hopping off the side of the boat into the water would not be a good option here in the cold water of Northern California

In looking at the sheer lines of the Nantucket/Outrage hull I can tell this would be a lot different because of the higher bow.

So, how does beaching work for you with the Nantucket/Outrage? do you need to carry a short wooden ladder for people of all ages for beaching to get off and back aboard the bow? Is it even feasible to hop off the bow?

I'd prefer the deep V hull of the Nantucket/Outrage because of the daily afternoon 2 ft chop here in Tomales Bay, but not at the expense of the beaching convenience of the 190 Montauk bow.

Jim L

porchmonkeycontrol posted 03-04-2007 08:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for porchmonkeycontrol  Send Email to porchmonkeycontrol     
why not use a stern anchor and use the swim platform stern to the beach.this is not the way it's done up north? I see many whalers in savannah,even large conquests,anchored this way at our local hangout.the setup is simple,the problem is limited storage on both models to even carry a small stern anchor.I want a 190 outrage myself,but am still tryin to figure out where I can store my picnic stuff just for a day trip.presently I have a bluewater 2550 and have enough cooler capacity for 3-4 cases beer,wine for the ladies,small weber grill,2-3 folding chairs,small cooler for pre marinated steaks,bubba burgers,etc. around here,I have several whaler friends with dauntless,outrage,and montauks. all carry "a load". the dauntless has most storage,utilizing its massive full width under seat storage.all boats regardless of brand utilize a two anchor mooring system,so the bow accessability problem is non existant regardless of model choice.perhaps this helps?
Jordi posted 03-04-2007 08:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jordi  Send Email to Jordi     
The bow sits pretty high while beaching and unless you are very strong trying to pull yourself up can be a challenge. For small children this is not an option. I beach my boat as Porchmonkeycontrol stated two anchors with stern to the beach to utilize the ladder at stern. Keeping the second anchor in a plastic milk crate helps with the “scuff” marks. I usually do not carry a month worth of groceries or the kitchen sink to the beach so storage has not been an issue.
Jordi
nydealer posted 03-04-2007 09:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for nydealer  Send Email to nydealer     
The 190 Montauk will have a similar issue with the high bow. If this is a common use for you, you may want to get one without a bow rail and mount a fold out ladder on the bow where a trolling motor would go. This setup is common on many models of Deckboats out today.
boatdryver posted 03-04-2007 11:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for boatdryver  Send Email to boatdryver     
thanks everybody for the suggestions. I see the tradeoffs now.

This serves as a reminder that the old Classic Montauk, with its low bow and the ability to just hop off onto the sand with shoes on, has its advantages in our situation.

The beaches we go to usually have a brisk offshore breeze, so the stern - to approach would not be easy. And most guests don't want to go barefoot...

JimL

rumrunner posted 03-04-2007 08:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for rumrunner  Send Email to rumrunner     
I went from a Montauk to an Outrage 20, and spend a lot of time beaching/sandbar hopping. It's a whole different situation with the Outrage vs. the Montauk. The kids usually go over the side amidships, and use the stern swim ladder to get back on. Make sure you use a KeelGard too - doesn't take too many sand beachings before the gelcoat wears through.
highanddry posted 03-04-2007 09:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Give it up and learn to beach stern in. Your not going to get over the high bow of the Outrage 190--nope--it sits way up there and it comes in handy riding over skyscraper waves. This is not a bow rider, it is an offshore capable machine.

H&D

Scott Grey posted 03-05-2007 03:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scott Grey  Send Email to Scott Grey     
west marine sells a foot step that has two loops of rope with clipss on both ends to hook on the boat. ( I used a longer piece of rope and hook the clips together over the front cleat.) I gives you an extra step. It's not perfect, but works the best so far and can be stored in the pocket on the inside of the door on the 190 outrage/nantucket. My wife is 5'3" and can use it, so can my 8 yr. old. Can't remember the exact name, i think its quick step.
boatdryver posted 03-06-2007 08:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for boatdryver  Send Email to boatdryver     
Yep, its a QuickStep by Doyle, West Model # 1829522. Looks interesting. thanks, Scott

JimL

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