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Feejer's Selection Process
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posted 03-30-2007 05:27 PM ET (US)
I find myself in a very odd predicament. I will be looking and sea trailing both of these boats in the next week. Give me you pluses and minuses on the two. Boat One, 2005 Montauk 17, with a 2006 90hp 4 stroke EFI, engine has 10 hours on it, with trailer mint condition for 20K. Boat Two, 2005 leftover Dauntless 16 with a 2005 90hp 4 stroke Carbed engine with comfort package and trailer for 23K.
I like the Storage Room, Self Bailing Cockpit, Larger Fuel Tank and Tilt Steering on the Dauntless.
I like the Newer EFI Engine and the savings of 3K on the Montauk.
Just looking for any ideas of which will be the better boat in 5 years. I really wish I only found one of these boats.
posted 03-30-2007 05:52 PM ET (US)
I'd get the Montauk. Offer $18,500 and wait for a reply.
I believe the outboard is the Mercury/Yamaha 90 with EFI and not the new Mercury Veradito. Ask your local Boston Whaler dealer (to give you a reference point) if you can buy a brand new 170 Montauk for $23,000 before taxes, it comes with a 6 year outboard warranty.
How much longer is the warranty on the outboard? Probably only 2 more years, but hopefully 4 more.
posted 03-30-2007 06:02 PM ET (US)
I'm a big Dauntless fan, but the 90 4-stroke is not the optimal engine for that boat. Given the choice of these two, I'd go with the Montauk.
posted 03-30-2007 06:42 PM ET (US)
Because I think the Dauntless is under powered with a 90 HP engine I'd go with the Montauk.
posted 03-30-2007 06:47 PM ET (US)
Where are you going to use it?
What are you going to use it for?
posted 03-30-2007 06:59 PM ET (US)
2-3 up fishing, bays and lakes, some tubing and boarding. The Montauk has another 5 years on the warrenty. The Dauntless will have the standard 3. I had planed to trade the Dauntless engine in after 20 or 3 seasons. How badly under powered will the 90 carb on the Dauntless be?
posted 03-31-2007 02:35 PM ET (US)
Anecdotally, the 160 Dauntless with a 115 seems to perform similarly to the 170 Montauk with a 90 -- usually 42-44 MPH at WOT. With a 90, the Dauntless is good for 38-39. However, the bigger issue might be a little challenge planing off the boat with a full tank and a couple people on board, especially with the stock prop, which is either an aluminum Black Max or a stainless Vengeance. Skiing will also be difficult; it was pretty much impossible for me with the 115 and the Vengeance.
Switching to a different prop might make the Dauntless/90 combo a better performer; I've had good success with a 17" Trophy Plus instead of the 16" Vengeance.
posted 03-31-2007 03:07 PM ET (US)
When the 170 MONTAUK was initially introduced its price was significantly less than a 160 DAUNTLESS. I believe that the Montauk more or less cannibalized sales of the more expensive yet smaller Dauntless.
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