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Feejer posted 04-27-2007 07:54 AM ET (US)   Profile for Feejer   Send Email to Feejer  
A 2005 170 Montauk. I picked the boat up last Saturday and the guy told me he had a custom cover made for it. Its a Taylor made, don't know the model number but the tag says for 170 Montauk. It does not fit well at all. This morning when I left for work the bow had about 20 gallons of water in it. When I put it on a few days ago I was not able to get it taught enough. My last two boats had covers that fit skin tight. Is this normal for the 170? Do I need to get a pole for the bow? Any other recommendations are welcome.

Thanks

GreatBayNH posted 04-27-2007 11:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Per my reply to your e-mail last week...
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Here is a link to the post on the continuouswave website I posted after discovering my cover didn't fit either.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/003065.html

I'm ordering the 63000ON cover in a few weeks. It's supposed to fit perfectly since it is a custom cover for Montauk 170 years 2005-2006.
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Did this not answer your question?


-Seth

Feejer posted 04-27-2007 11:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
I had lost my email yesterday. Thanks for the link. Let me know how yours fit before I order
GreatBayNH posted 04-27-2007 11:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
I would guess that any cover that goes over the high bow rails would need some sort of support under it. I noticed the Mills custom cover doesn't attempt to go over the bow rails at all. Smart move on their part. I'm trusting my custom Taylor cover at the very least will "fit" the boat. Whether or not I will need support under the bow section is another matter. If I need bow support it won't surprise or depress me. Just another thing I have to throw money at.

-Seth

GreatBayNH posted 04-27-2007 11:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
On another note, I called Taylor Made about my bad cover, who then directed me to the custom cover for the Montauk 170 years 2005-2006. I asked them point blank if this "custom" cover was indeed a "trailerable" cover that I could go zipping down US Highway 95 at 60+ MPH. She said it was made using the exact measurements of those model and year boats and that it was indeed a trailerable cover. We shall see. I will be posting more on this cover and my antenna project as soon as the wife let's me go shopping again. Post Classic Montauk owners stand by...
-Seth
Feejer posted 04-27-2007 03:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Those Mills covers look and work great, but $875.00?
Jefecinco posted 04-28-2007 10:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
The custom made cover on my Dauntless 16 looks terrific, fits perfectly, requires no support poles, does not puddle and cost me $300 from Reddish in P'cola, FL. The center support for the cover is the console windshield rail. It is reinforced at wear points. It is not Sunbrella and I get about five years out of a cover. I believe the material is Sharkskin or a name similar to that.

BTW, it is a towing cover although I seldom use it when towing.

Butch

bkloss posted 04-28-2007 08:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for bkloss  Send Email to bkloss     
towing cover = short life cover especially with center console boats

IMO

Brian

Jefecinco posted 04-29-2007 10:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Brian,

I can't disagree with your comment that towing covers = short life. But as I'm getting five years out of a $300 custom fitted towing cover I'm pretty happy with the durability of mine.

I could probably extend the life by ignoring the minor rain intrusion through the seams I begin to see at five years but I'm just too picky. The cover mostly serves as a UV protector here in Lower Alabama. We all know a little water never hurt a Whaler, right?

Finally, I must admit that I seldom tow with the cover since most of my range is within 15 miles of my home and of that most is within a half mile.

Butch

gbcbu posted 04-29-2007 12:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for gbcbu  Send Email to gbcbu     
I installed a Mills mooring cover for my '06 170 Montauk. It fits like a glove and I was surprised at how easy it was to install all the clips. (Never drilled a hole in a boat before)

I keep the boat at a slip and with 3 trips to the boat already this season I think it's worth the extra few minutes to put on and off. It adds a little extra security and protection from the rain and bird droppings. I'll use it when I trailer it too.

I removed the sun top thinking I'd put it on later but I haven't missed it at all.

Jefecinco posted 04-29-2007 08:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
This morning I raised my engine one hole. When I reinstalled the cover I found a problem I'd failed to anticipate. Now that the engine is higher the cover no longer fits perfectly. The fit is only in the acceptable range now but it'll do until the next cover. I've decided not to find it necessary to raise the engine another hole.

Butch

GreatBayNH posted 05-09-2007 01:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Taylor Made 63000-ON custom cover for Montauk years 2005-2006 is on order. As soon as I get it I'll let ya'll know how it fits. Final cost without shipping was 305.00 USD.

-Seth

gbcbu posted 05-09-2007 07:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for gbcbu  Send Email to gbcbu     
That's a great price Seth. Is it made of sunbrella?
GreatBayNH posted 05-09-2007 08:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Taylor Made has it listed as "Hot Shot Fabric" whatever that is.

-Seth

GreatBayNH posted 05-09-2007 08:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Acrylic Coated Polyester
Jkcam posted 05-16-2007 03:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jkcam  Send Email to Jkcam     
I've had great luck with boatcoversdirect.com on a couple of Whalers. My current cover on my 06 150 Montauk worked great on my 70mph ride from Florida up to Annapolis. I would buy from them again.
RLSmith posted 05-17-2007 10:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for RLSmith  Send Email to RLSmith     
I have a sunbrella cover for my 16' Dauntless that fits like a glove. I have read that sunbrella will stretch when stressed. For example, if several gallons of water sit on the cover over the bow. Before I put the cover on, I usually run a support line from the grab rail at the top of the console to the bow cleats. I run another from the the grab rail to the stern cleats. This ensures water will not pool. The lines have bridles with loops for each cleat so it is pretty quick to set up.
GreatBayNH posted 05-18-2007 11:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
I finally picked up the custom Taylor Made boat cover from West Marine. The first thing I noticed was how much heavier the fabric seemed from the semi-custom cover I returned a few weeks ago. Both covers were supposed to be the "Hot Shot" fabric but I have to say the custom cover seems a lot "beefier" than the semi-custom cover. The custom cover does drape the entire boat quite well, the semi custom did not. The custom cover is a little awkward in the rear around the engine and swin ladder however. One has to wonder if it was made to fit a hull with little regard for the default engine (Merc) and very common swim ladder option.

Without bow and stern support ties water pooling is a given. I believe once I get some support ties from the cc to the bow and stern, and some Taylor Made tie-down straps (I'm using wal-mart bungies currently), this cover will be just fine...at least for what I paid. You get what you pay for as they say.

-Seth

GreatBayNH posted 05-18-2007 11:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
But a picture is worth a thousand words...

http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i316/srcbell/2007%20Season%20Prep/ ?action=view¤t=63000-ON.jpg

It looks loose but I just threw the cover on before the monsoon came. I will put some money into a support system and tie downs and repost to show the difference. I suspect it will be night and day.

-Seth

Jefecinco posted 05-18-2007 07:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
I'd be very disappointed in the fit of that cover. For the same or less money one can have a true custom cover fitted to the boat which requires no supports to prevent pooling.

Butch

GreatBayNH posted 05-18-2007 08:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Please direct me to pricing and company please.

bkloss posted 05-18-2007 11:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for bkloss  Send Email to bkloss     
The cover that I bought from boatcoversdirect for my 180 Dauntless fit better and it had a motor cover built in as well BUT on most whaler center consoles you will need either a line tied from the top center console to the middle of the stern (or a pole) to drain off the excess water if you have a downpour (in San Diego we don't have this problem although we need to...) I just purchased another cover from the above for a new Outrage 210 and it too has the motor cover built in. I will take a picture when I get it.

Brian

Jefecinco posted 05-19-2007 11:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
GreatBay,

Is there no local fabricator in your area? Suggest you vist a local marina or two, look around until you see a well fitted well crafted custom made cover, contact the owner and get a recommendation.

In the Mobile, AL - Pensacola, FL area a very well made custom fitted towing cover can be fabricated for less than $400. The cover on my Dauntless 16 was $300 OTD about three years ago.

The cover is fitted to cover the bow rails and motor. It is secured at the front with cordage looping around the trailer winch mount and at the rear with cordage looping around the motor A/C plate. There are four cords looping under the hull with one at the CC windshield rail, one at the transom and two forward of the CC. There is a drawcord around the perimeter which ties at the rear center of the cover behind the motor. The drawcord just fits beneath the rubrail forward and then tapers to about four inches below the rubrail aft.

This is a very tightly fitting cover and is supported only by the CC railing. Our average rainfall here is 60+ inches per year and the cover has never pooled. It also survived Katrina with no damage. I cant say the same for the roof on our home.

Good luck.

Butch

GreatBayNH posted 05-19-2007 01:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Thanks Butch. Sounds like a good setup. The bummer of it is my cover was a gift (West Marine Gift Card) for Christmas from the wife. I had to spend it a West and it was purchased specifically for a cover. If I could have one of our local canvas shops make a cover it would be more than 400 here in New England. Although I'm not extreamly happy with the Taylor Made product I was able to get the cover more taught with Taylor Made tie-down straps. Bungee cords should not be used. Being able to pull down and get the cover as taught as possible is key. Can't do that with bungee cords. Lesson learned.
I was only able to get 8 of the needed 16 tie-downs today but once they are all in place I'll post another picture. It will be MUCH better than the first I assure you as the 8 I put on today makes be feel MUCH better about the purchase. I'm a little ticked however that Taylor not only didn't install an outboard hood but the space they left to go around the engine is not enough to clear it. It's like the measured the cover from a hull at the factory without an engine.

-Seth

GreatBayNH posted 05-19-2007 01:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
One thing I forgot to say that I meant to earlier in the post... A Newtauk's squared off bow is more of a challenge to fit than a pointed hull of a Dauntless or other traditional pointed bow vessel. With a Newtauk you're basically trying to cover a square sandbox at the bow without the cover falling in the middle. I believe this is why Mills didn't even attempt to go over the rails on the bow with their solution. Or am I way off base here? If someone with a Newtaulk could chime in here now would be the time.

-Seth

GreatBayNH posted 05-23-2007 01:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Here are some images, as promised, of the custom Taylor Made boat cover for Montauk 170 years 2005-2006 with comlete set (16) of Taylor Made tie-downs in place.

Taylor Made Part# 63000-ON
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i316/srcbell/Boat%20Cover/ ?action=view&slideshow=true

She aint perfect (swim ladder is in the way, bow needs support) but it will work for me. Hey, it was a gift.

-Seth

bkloss posted 05-23-2007 02:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for bkloss  Send Email to bkloss     
Hey, that's not bad at all. It looks much better than your earlier photo. I don't think that you are going to find a much better fit for that boat. I think that they did a nice job and you are going to have to get a seperate cover for the motor which shouldn't be difficult.

Brian

GreatBayNH posted 05-23-2007 07:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Thank you! One thing I do like it how much the cover covers the sides. It could almost work as winter protection in lue of shrink wraping provided I had some sort of roof over its head.
gbcbu posted 05-25-2007 07:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for gbcbu  Send Email to gbcbu     
That's a great fit GBayNH...can you use it when at the dock or is it just for when it's on the trailer? Amost looks big enough to camp under if need be...good luck with it.
GreatBayNH posted 05-25-2007 07:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
It's a boat cover, not a mooring cover, if that answers your question.

-Seth

GreatBayNH posted 05-27-2007 10:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Messing around with Photbucket...

Taylor Made - Boat Cover TV
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i316/srcbell/Boat%20Cover/ ?action=view¤t=266ff6c1.pbr

-Seth

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