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nemored posted 05-22-2007 11:12 PM ET (US)   Profile for nemored   Send Email to nemored  
Did my break in yesterday [on a 2007 Boston Whaler 190 MONTAUK] and read 42-MPH on my GPS. The 2007 190 MONTAUK is not underpowered. Great riding boat!
PCB posted 05-23-2007 10:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for PCB  Send Email to PCB     
[The 2007 190 MONTAUK] seems to have it all: descent power, space, simplicity, and a good price for a whaler. I went to check out [the 2007 Boston Whaler 190 MONTAUK] at the local MarineMax last week and was amazed at how big it seemed for a 19-footer.

I'm thinking of heading down to Sarasota this weekend to see [a 2007 Boston Whaler 190 MONTAUK] in the water.

Nemored, do you have any photos of the boat?

-Pete

sheikofthesea posted 05-23-2007 08:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for sheikofthesea  Send Email to sheikofthesea     
Dear folks:

I have lots of pictures of my 190 Montauk. [Inquired into how the website hosts digital images--please use the META-Discussion for this topic--jimh.] I love the boat. It is huge, open, simplicty in itself, great for fishing and taking my beautiful wife out for a little sunbathing. Onyl problems I have had so far are a little hum in the anchor locker and some issues with the the buttons on the control panel. Other than that, this is my super skiff. I maxed out at 36-knots at 6,000-RPM with the Mercury motor trimmed right. I get a nice 29-knot boat speed at 4,700-RPM engine speed.

nemored posted 05-23-2007 10:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
Sorry no pictures, I'm not in the digital word yet.

I will fish it tomorrow. I will be after Salmon and Rockfish here on the Oregon coast. The rear bait tank will be perfect for holding crab.

PCB posted 05-23-2007 10:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for PCB  Send Email to PCB     
[Responded to inquiry about how the website hosts digital images; please use the META-Discussion for this topic--jimh]
320OR posted 05-24-2007 05:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for 320OR  Send Email to 320OR     
Just think, for 08' [probably does not mean 8-feet, but intended to write "'08" a contraction for 2008, which would have saved one character but now has caused confusion between a year and a distance measurement--jimh.] you can get a Verado 135 on [a Boston Whaler 190 MONTAUK].
PCB posted 05-24-2007 09:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for PCB  Send Email to PCB     
Is that true about 135-HP in 2008? If so, the folks at Boston Whaler must be reading this site! Though it's funny because all the people who own or have driven the Montauk 190 say it has plenty of power, and those who haven't speculate it must need more power.
Whaler_Jack posted 05-24-2007 09:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler_Jack  Send Email to Whaler_Jack     
Ok! I did it. I traded my 170 for a 190! It certainly is great--much bigger--boat. Power is OK. Doesn't jump out of the water like the 170 but does a respectable job. Wide open throttle, two people, full fuel, 100-lbs of stuff, about 38-knot boat speed, just about like the 170. [The 190 MONTAUK] handles bigger water much much more nicely. [In chop} I felt comfortable at 15-knot in the 170, but I can do at 25-knot in the 190. Much more storage, very very smooth Mercury 115-HP motor, idles very quietly, and moves in and out of gear very smoothly. The downside so far is it will NOT fit in my garage and I can't move it around like I could the 170! Am I getting old or is it the boat?
Mudkap1 posted 05-25-2007 09:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mudkap1  Send Email to Mudkap1     
I also moved up to the 190 from the 170. I love [the Boston Whaler 190 MONTAUK]! I actually raised the door jam by 8-inches of my garage and [the Boston Whaler 190 MONTAUK] fits in nicely now. Storage is super, I even added extra tackle boxes under the back seats. Enjoy!
nemored posted 05-26-2007 09:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
Mudkap1

How did you put in tackleboxes in the back? Thanks for any comeback.

jimh posted 05-27-2007 12:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
What engine does "this boat" have on it?
Mudkap1 posted 05-30-2007 07:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mudkap1  Send Email to Mudkap1     
With respect to the tackle boxes in the back, I had my dealer install one three-box fishing tackle compartments under each of the back corner seats or steps. There was the circular face plate originally. We ordered the same tackle boxes that are in the center console except with one box more. The dealer had the catelog. He cut the opening just a bit wider, slid them in, mounted, and completed. They work very well. I am certainly pleased. I take some picture this upcoming weekend if you are interested. I am sure it is not a difficult job to do on your own. I just had them do this before I even took delivery.
Eastportnut posted 05-30-2007 05:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eastportnut  Send Email to Eastportnut     
Just finished the break in period here on the Connecticut River with our new 190 Montauk. I've owned 7 or 8 different Whalers over the last 30 years and must say that we are having the most fun with this one! Awesome ride, super roomy, easy to traler, 42-MPH on GPS at 6,100-RPM. This one is a keeper!
nemored posted 05-30-2007 07:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
Pictures would be great of those tackle boxes.

Thank You

jimh posted 05-30-2007 07:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Please give some details of the motor on the 190 MONAUK. What type of motor is it? How much horsepower?
highanddry posted 05-31-2007 03:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Not an expert on the BOSTON WHALER MONTAUK 190 but the only engine available on that boat at this time--the only engineis the: 115 EXLPT EFI FourStroke Mercury® engine STD.

That would be the engine they are talking about on "THIS BOAT" which per the title of this thread is a BOSTON WHALER MONTAUK 190.

H&D

erik selis posted 05-31-2007 05:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
I took a test ride in the 190 Montauk with the new 115-hp, EFI Mercury 4-stroke engine in April. The engine is very quiet at low rpm's and I guess it has just enough power for 2 passengers with some light gear loaded. But...just as with the Nantucket at the time, also with the 115-hp, 4-stroke Mercury engine, it takes forever to get up on plane with 4 to 6 people on board.
I was in the 190 Montauk with J├Ârgen De Vos and 4 other people and the boat eventually got up on plane after maybe 15 seconds. Granted, six is a crowd but the boat has a capacity of 8. A 150-hp Verado would have handled this task easily. The boat would be well suited for this combination.
Again Boston Whaler will loose customers for this type of boat because everyone in the boat during my test run said the same thing. The wouldn't want it underpowered as it was.
Other than that the boat is fantastic.

Erik

Eastportnut posted 06-01-2007 08:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Eastportnut  Send Email to Eastportnut     
The Merc 115 EXLPT 4 stroke is an all new 4 pot Verado without the supercharger. This block is a beefy unit built to withstand 200 hp. This should prove to be bullit-proof. Underpowered, no. With 4 200 lb guys it will not "jump" out of the water but will plane off in 6-7 seconds. My wife and I are usually the only passengers. The whole package; boat, motor & trailer does a great job at meeting the price point Whaler has targeted. If I was a serious fisherman and took out more than 3-4 passengers routinly, I would have gone for the Outrage with the 150 Verado.
nemored posted 06-01-2007 10:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
I'm not sure what the agenda is with the posts of this boat being underpowered. This is my fourth Whaler and I've also owned two Arimas. I speak from over twenty years of boating experience. THIS BOAT IS NOT UNDERPOWERED, PERIOD. Why does it seem that everyone who thinks this, does not own one?

Again, good hole shot. Does 40mph with two people with 60 gallons of gas. If I wanted a speed boat I would not have bought a Whaler.

By the way, I just used my Garmin 440s for the first time. Great unit with a very clear screen. Its like looking at a TV set!

highanddry posted 06-01-2007 10:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Well, to answer your question, most boats this size are rated at greater power and similar sized Whalers are rated at more power and because of the lack luster performance of the original 115 horse Nantuket whch is a similar sized boat as well to the Montauk 190 and because most people who purchase boats in this size range expect to be able to carry four to five people, payload and full fuel and get up on plane and get going and because the extra performance is usefull and important in some sea conditions and certainly useful if you have diving gear or camping gear or whatever. (purposely run on sentence)

That said, with the costs of fuel and boats and related expenses these days boats in this size range with more emphasis on economy and price point will become increasingly popular. I think it a bit funny over on the THT listening to guys asking each other about their fuel economy on their 26-30 foot twins when just a few months ago these same people said they did not care at all about fuel costs---yeah--right. People are going ot learn to make do with smaller boats and engines in the future and the future is here now.

They will soon offer larger engine options for the Montauk 190, count on it.

Don't let other poeple rain on your parade, if your happy, what else might matters, but don't ask a question if your not seeking an answer you might not agree with.

H&D

erik selis posted 06-02-2007 03:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Nemored,

Sorry if my post may have offended you but I am just giving my honest opinion about the test run I did with the 190 Montauk. No agenda here and no offense intended.

I made the same remarks about the Nantucket at the time and it also struck a nerve with the folks that bought this boat with the 115-hp EFI 4-stroke. Ok if there's only 2 people in the boat but a different story with 4 fishermen and fishing gear. The funny thing about it is that some Whaler friends, that owned the Nantucket with this engine, have re-powered with more HP. I guess they know why.

It's true, I don't own a 190 Montauk but I know what I feel when I operate a boat. Any boat. These test runs are designed to seduce and convince buyers to take the bait and buy the boat. If it takes 15 seconds (I timed it) to get up on plane with 6 people in the boat I feel the boat is underpowered. I wasn't alone with this feeling. No doubt in my mind that this boat can easily handle a 150 or even more horsepower. Sure, if you never have 6 in the boat this engine may be what you want, but having enough power is also safer. Try boating in strong currents where there's a lot of commercial ships making huge wakes and you'll see what I mean.

The question that rises here is why Boston Whaler doesn't offer a larger engine as well is this 115. I know I would be interested in this 190 Montauk if it had the 150 Verado on it or the 150 Optimax. No doubt that the boat can handle it.

Erik

highanddry posted 06-02-2007 10:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Just as comparison, with four people, four scuba tanks, full gear for two divers, full fuel and picnic lunches plus some fishing gear, the Opti 150 with four blade Revoulution 4 gets the Nantucket (Outrage 190) up on plane in a matter of seconds and your eyeballs have to catch up with you, it goes like a scalded cat with it's tail on fire. And at that, I still think I could use another 50 horses, myself. Each person is different. I am usually heavily loaded, I need more power Scotty.

I don't know why Boston Whaler sells their boats with such lower power options, it makes no sense. Some people will want the smaller engines and feel it is a perfect match but others will not purchase the boat because they will thiunk it needs a 150. It isn't for speed, it is for instant repsonse, hole shot and getting big loads up and going. We get up to and evem more than 5 MPG so I think a 150 Opti/ETEC etc would be a great match to the Montauk 190.

nemored posted 06-02-2007 10:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
Okay you guys win. I'm going to trailer my boat from Oregon to the east coast of Canada to the Bay of Fundy. Then I'm going to launch my boat with eight people with lots of gear while the tide is running full against me. I will then post my boat is underpowered and needs twin 300 hp (supercharged of course) motors.

P.S. I forgot to tell you guys I was a smart aleck :)

Sal A posted 06-03-2007 06:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
Everything I have read about the 190 Montauk is positive; I'd be proud to own her. I was one of the early Nantucket owners who got defensive when comments were made that the boat was underpowered with the 115 4 stroke. After all I owned the dang thing and thought it was fine.

PS. I repowered with a Yamaha F150 :)

Best of luck with your 190 Montauks, and please post pictures when you can!

ray20 posted 06-11-2007 04:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for ray20  Send Email to ray20     
I have test this weekend my new 190 montauk with the 115 mercury. Boat is great, but Motor top RPM is only 5600 and 29 knots. With 4.000 RPM boat speed is 19 knots. What can i do to a motor trimmed right and get 6.000 RPM and a top speed of 36 knots as sheikofthesea have posted?
Thanks.
nemored posted 06-11-2007 06:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
Either your information is incorrect or the wrong prop is on the boat. This boat does 36 knots (41mph) at 6100 rpms. I just did those speeds again last week with a full tank.
Mudkap1 posted 06-11-2007 08:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mudkap1  Send Email to Mudkap1     
Ditto,
My 190 Montauk does 40 mph, full tank, two people. I am surprised that you left the dealership with a boat that does 29 knots. What does your dealer say to this?
ray20 posted 06-13-2007 05:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for ray20  Send Email to ray20     
I have checked the propeller and it is the same of boston whaler performance data.
Any idea about why only 5.600 RPM top ?

nemored posted 06-13-2007 07:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
Trim?
Whalerdog posted 08-13-2007 09:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
I have just run my new Montauk with a 115. Running it with three people isn't bad two is better and one is great. 150 would be neat but I would bang up the boat more in rough water. Not sure what it runs with bottom paint guessing high 30's. Trimmed out it runs 6100 rpm.

I have about 15 hours on it now. Gas mileage is decent compared to two strokes I used to race. I can still get my thrills running in rough water near 40 mph. Great boat bit strange to me as it just stays near level in rough water. I banged it fairly hard in the rough water. I was running in some 4' swells with some 2-3' chop on top in the inlet.

Snapped the straps for the bimini in rough water. I'll take it off next time.Inspection plates popped out, front hatch opened up. I could have went with a 08 and 135 for another 7+ which I didn't think it was worth it. Still think I made the right decision for my usual two people running with not much gear. If insurance wasn't a problem I'd bolt a light weight 200 V-4 on it. I would tear up the boat with it so it may not be a good idea.

nemored posted 08-14-2007 12:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for nemored  Send Email to nemored     
Remind me to never let you borrow my car!
Eastportnut posted 08-18-2007 08:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Eastportnut  Send Email to Eastportnut     
Now that our 190 Montauk is fully broken in, the Garmin 440 read 40.7 mph with 400 lbs of people (wife and I, I'm the big one) 200 lbs of gear, no bottom paint, no wind, almost smooth water. Few little problems: ign. switch fell out into console, some fasteners backing out of rails, etc. Great boat , we love it!
wood duck posted 08-18-2007 06:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for wood duck  Send Email to wood duck     
I picked up my 2008 montauk 190 with the 135 verado on August 25th. I have about 70 hours on it. Fantastic boat. Great midrange power with the 135. Top end has been about 48mph....cruises effortlessly at 40. Very stable ride in rough water. Previously owned a 2006 montauk and liked it very much...but needed the additional space of the 190.
wood duck posted 08-18-2007 06:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for wood duck  Send Email to wood duck     
typo...picked up 190 montauk with 135 verado on JULY 25th..
Perry posted 08-18-2007 07:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
48 MPH is good top speed. Is it measured by GPS?
highanddry posted 08-18-2007 07:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Now we are cooking with gas, Verado 135---zoom, zoom.

wood duck posted 08-18-2007 08:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for wood duck  Send Email to wood duck     
yes, by gps. forgot to mention that i like the smartcraft gauges, especially the troll control. i have to get used to the DTS elecronic throttle, it is so smooth that it is difficult to control when boat is bouncing in rough water and you are trying to make a speed adjustment.
Whalerdog posted 08-18-2007 10:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
48 is faster than I thought a 135 vs. 115 would go. Must have a nice punch to it. I was thinking 44 range. Congratulation! 48 would have been worth the extra money for me I guess. I was tightening some rail bolts today also. Added a grab handle to the dash area. I bought the BW 9" handle as used in other areas of the boat. Now just need my GPS and VHF.

How about an anchor mount is one available or should I just wrap it to keep it from damaging the compartment? They also put on a new bow light as it didn't work. Hope the gas gauge works better. They said it worked when the took it out and moved it up and down. It read full before I dropped 20 gallons it in which is not good.

Can you get some bow lift with the 135?

wood duck posted 08-18-2007 10:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for wood duck  Send Email to wood duck     
not sure i can explain bow lift....but this 19' with the 135 does not porpoise like my 17' montauk with a 90hp
highanddry posted 08-19-2007 12:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
A float type sender will never read correctly in a long narrow tank as used in the hull tunnel inmost boats including Boston Whalers. An aircraft type capacitence system is far better and actually accurate nadslightly greater cost. The best solution is just to learn your boat and whta the guage means--ie--full does not always mean full.
Whalerdog posted 08-19-2007 06:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
Like any car you do learn the gauge but to have 20+ gallons gone which is 1/3 and still read full underway or at rest is crazy. I'll see how it works today.
Whalerdog posted 08-19-2007 09:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     

Nemored iI beat the car below :>)

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wood duck posted 08-19-2007 11:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for wood duck  Send Email to wood duck     
i have the same issues with the accuracy of my fuel gauge which is a digital readout off of the smart craft system.
wood duck posted 08-19-2007 01:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for wood duck  Send Email to wood duck     
any thoughts on a t-top for a 19 montauk....stability, functionality, appearance..?
highanddry posted 08-19-2007 02:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
It may be SmartCraft but the signal is coming from a float with a pot on it. Such a system can NEVER be accurate,especially in a boat with a longnarrow tank that the fuel can slosh around in.
Liteamorn posted 08-20-2007 11:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Liteamorn  Send Email to Liteamorn     
The Smartcraft guage on my Eastport is dead on, the secret is to read it when your not under way, in as flat as the conditions can be (as in at the dock). The instructions that came with my boat refers to that (and the oil tank guage).
wood duck posted 08-23-2007 07:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for wood duck  Send Email to wood duck     
thanks, liteamorn, it reads accurately at calm
CAKGT posted 08-24-2007 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for CAKGT  Send Email to CAKGT     
Looks like the 135, 150, 175, and the 200 hp Verado all weigh 510 lbs. Who will be the first to try more HP? Any takers? Wish I had the $, I would trade in my 170!
bwhaler01 posted 08-31-2007 11:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for bwhaler01  Send Email to bwhaler01     
Hey guys. I was wondering if any of you 190 Montauk owners can tell me what the height of the boat is when on the trailer. I am hoping that it will fit through my garage door...

The BW brochure states the bridge clearance to be 5 feet. I was thinking (guesstimating) an additional 2 feet when on the trailer for a total of approx 7 feet.

If any of you have measured it or have slipped it through a standard garage door, please shed some light the subject matter.

Thanks.

Whaler_Jack posted 09-01-2007 11:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler_Jack  Send Email to Whaler_Jack     
I believe the height from the ground to the top of the console is between 7' 6" and 8' depending on the height of the tongue on the factory trailer. I tried everything to get it in my garage(standard size) but no luck!! You'll really need an 8' door and 24-25' depth. It's just too big!

Jack

Whalerdog posted 09-01-2007 12:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
I'll see how much it cost in the spring. If going for a 135 why not a 150 same weight and so on 175 or 200. I would probably just bang the boat up worse with more power. I had a blast in Jones inlet running up some big cresting / breaking waves yesterday and then surfing them back in. Water would just be gone from the bottom of the boat as I came off the waves. They were a blast! 115 burns like no fuel I love it. Amazing how it stays level just keeps going. Darn boat is so dry riding I think I'm in a car. If I was riding with 4 or more people a 135 would be better. I was very leary about the 4 stoke but so far at 25 hours it is great.
bwhaler01 posted 09-04-2007 01:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for bwhaler01  Send Email to bwhaler01     
Has anyone had any luck with manipulating the 190 Montauk to fit it through a 7 foot door opening?

Does anyone know the actual height of the 190 on the trailer? I though it might be between 7'2" to 7'4".

Thanks for your time. If any of you can measure the actual height, that would be great.


Whalerdog posted 09-04-2007 07:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
I may have mine out of water this week end to put the name on it. I will measure it and post it here. If he makes the name sooner I will get it up here.
Mudkap1 posted 09-04-2007 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mudkap1  Send Email to Mudkap1     
Hang on for the measurements. I re-did my garage door opening height to fit the 190 in. I will go down to the beach house this weekend a measure it for you. It was a std. door and I did have to open it up more. As for the depth, I just moved forward the winch stand and pulled the boat forward 8". It did the trick
bwhaler01 posted 09-17-2007 07:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for bwhaler01  Send Email to bwhaler01     
Did any of you have time to measure the 190 Montauk height on the trailer??

Thanks

Whalerdog posted 09-17-2007 07:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
the guy never made my name so I didn't pull it out. If I do I will be sure to post it. I may go by the dealer so I can measure there's if I go.
Whaler_Jack posted 09-17-2007 08:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler_Jack  Send Email to Whaler_Jack     
I've measure my 190 several times. Depending on the tongue height it is 7'6" to 8'. You will need at least an 8' door. I have mine in a storage unit that's 13x26 and it fills it up. If you collapse the tongue you would save about 3'. It sits very high on the trailer and I experimented moving the tongue up and down, talked to a few boat canvas and t-top guys to modify the grab rail and windshield for a quick disconnect and even talked with a trailer builder to possibly lowering the boat but, just decided to get a storage unit for now....But I have not given up! Just have to convince the wife that i need to rebuild the garage:) Good luck!

Jack

highanddry posted 09-18-2007 07:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for highanddry  Send Email to highanddry     
Why not just keep it under a boat cover during the season and in the winter put it in the garage. My Outrage 190 will not go into the garage. I remove the winshield,about 5 minutes, I remove the front two bolts fromthe console bar and loosen the rear two and lay i back--5 minutes. Now I remove the spare tire from the tongue---1 minute and drop the tire pressure down-- 2 minutes and it will jsut squeeze in with about .5 inch to spare. I lift the tongue will up also and you can put the tongue on a dolly or use your Kubota tractor to provide the muscle nad the bucket to drop the tongue to about 6 inches from the ground.

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Mudkap1 posted 09-18-2007 08:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mudkap1  Send Email to Mudkap1     
I was able to measure my garage door opening for the 190. It is 8'2". I make it by 2-3" on height. The depth is 23' of my garage. I moved the boat forward on the trailer and saved 6" and I make it into my garage by a total of 3" with the swing tonque. I hope that this was helpful.

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