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SJUAE posted 08-10-2007 02:03 AM ET (US)   Profile for SJUAE  
I am currently contemplating purchasing either 180 Montauk (most likely) or a 180 Dauntless (The 170 maybe a little to small for my use and I dislike the 2 open fuel tanks, sorry to those who like this).

Given that I currently reside in the Middle East Gulf, when I repatriate back to Europe I will need to ship my boat back.

Both the Montauk and Dauntless are 8’-00” wide and the clearance inside a standard shipping container is 7’-8”. Therefore, I would need to rotate the hull on the trailer (assuming the trailer is slightly narrower than the hull without mud guards on) and support it on custom made chocks.

I can’t seem to find a suitable diagram/drawing to enable me to check if this is feasible. Any suggestions, comments or help would be appreciated.

Additionally we are fortunate here and can get the boats without the standard engines. It seems most note in the forums that BW are slightly under powered and the transom may take slightly more than stated.

What would be your recommendation for a 4 stroke OB make/size?

TexasWhaler posted 08-10-2007 02:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for TexasWhaler  Send Email to TexasWhaler     
I haven't personally shipped a Whaler overseas, but I recalled an article, with photos, from someone who did, in the Cetacea section on this site.

Not sure if it it'll help or not, but here's that page:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage75.html

bigjohn1 posted 08-10-2007 08:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigjohn1  Send Email to bigjohn1     
I am not literate on the dimensional differences between Montauks and Dauntless but I can tell you my experience. I shipped a brand new 170 Montauk into Guam from the factory and can say with certainty the 170 Montauk will indeed fit inside a standard 20' ISO shipping container (8x8x20). I wish I had taken pictures when we opened my container at the delivery dealer but I did not. The hull sat on a specially fabricated and angled wooden "rack" made from 2x10's or 2x12's and also 4x4's. This "rack" was fabricated by the freight forwarder my dealer contracted in Oakland, CA. A shipping company picked the boat up at the factory in Florida and trucked it to Oakland delivering it to the freight forwarder. The forwarder built the rack, slid it into the shipping container, completed all the customs and export documentation, and delivered the container to Matson Navigation who loaded it on the container ship and brought it here. The Oakland forwarder's Guam agent unloaded the container from the ship locally, completed whatever paperwork the Government of Guam required, and trucked the container to the dealer where they unloaded it and prepped the boat for delivery.
Casco Bay Outrage posted 08-10-2007 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Casco Bay Outrage  Send Email to Casco Bay Outrage     
That link is very helpful. Don't forget to click on the thread. It has great information on details, prices etc.

Good luck!

CBO

SJUAE posted 08-11-2007 01:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Many thanks thats completely put my mind at rest to see Walk-Around 21 in a standard container, with the engine still on.
TRAFFICLAWYER posted 08-11-2007 04:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for TRAFFICLAWYER    
Yamaha F150 Four Stroke should do nicely.
Mambo Minnow posted 08-11-2007 04:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mambo Minnow  Send Email to Mambo Minnow     
SJUAE - It's been a few years since I have been to Dubai, but what's the price of gasoline there now?
SJUAE posted 08-12-2007 03:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Mambo Minnow

Cost of US Gallon is around 6Dhr which is 1.63US.

I was in Dubai for the weekend, the sea was at least 33Deg C no chance of any decent fish near to land

jimmy c posted 08-13-2007 09:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimmy c  Send Email to jimmy c     
You can ship the boat open...without a container(cheeper) by shrink wrapping it on the trailer.
I just shipped a 170 Montauk that way to the UK with great success...no damage ,nothing stolen.
JohnKaloper posted 08-14-2007 01:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for JohnKaloper  Send Email to JohnKaloper     
As a freight forwarder I can tell you that 9 times out of 10 it will be cheaper to ship a boat in a shipping container then flat rack or breakbulk. There might be a rare occasion when you can find a breakbulk or RORO ship to carry your cargo but rarely is it cheaper and in most cases considerably more money then a container.

John

nats posted 08-15-2007 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for nats  Send Email to nats     
I work on the piers at the port of Baltimore, for the largest roll on roll off carrier in the world. Go to the Wallenius Wilhelmsen WWW.WALENNIUSWILHELMSEN.COM website for shipping info. They do go to the middle east. We ship recieve boats (in cradles& on trailers Everyday.
SJUAE posted 08-17-2007 03:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Thanks Guys

It would probably be a 40ft container, you know:

19ft for the BW
1ft for LCD TV, Hi Fi and my stuff
20ft for her handbags and shoes

I think the BW dealer here quoted around 6K US for shipping a new boat from US to UAE plus 1.3K port fees, thankfully they are tax free.

I just needed to be see if someone had rotated and shipped a hull before I bought a 8" wide boat. I don't expect to go back home to Europe/UK for sometime yet.

Now the 2008 Montauk 190 comes with a 135 it's looking good I think the Dauntless maybe a little pricey incomparision

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