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mobrienfl posted 11-05-2007 09:44 AM ET (US)   Profile for mobrienfl   Send Email to mobrienfl  
I am purchasing a 20' Outrage with a 200HP Mercury 2-stroke, both are 1997. The boat has been in storage in VT and we are trailering it to south FL. I am grateful for any feedback on this boat and motor. My last Whaler was a 17' Sport with a 90HP Mercury.

Martha

rumrunner posted 11-05-2007 10:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for rumrunner  Send Email to rumrunner     
I have a 1997 Outrage 20, with a 1998 175 Merc EFI.
It is well-equipped, with raw water washdown/stern livewell/dual batteries.
I use it for cruising, family activities, and fishing in coastal New England waters.
As far as the hull - I think it is fantastic, at least for my uses. While not considered a "classic", the lines still pre-date the later BW designs and it still has the basic looks of a classic Whaler. Mine has never had bottom paint, and is in phenomenal shape.
While the ride is improved over the earlier Outrage 20', it is still a bit "gruff". Overall it is a dry - and more importantly - safe ride. The hull is VERY solid, and with a full tank of fuel it really plows through the sea.
Decent storage space and hefty fuel capacity are two benefits. Mine had o.e.m. trim tabs which are a plus in both popping the heavy hull up onto a plane, and lateral compensation while underway. They make a huge difference in my case.
I wasn't thrilled with the Merc at first, but after a lot of t.l.c. (as in a new powerhead) it has proven to be reliable. However, it is thirsty. I average about 2.6 nmpg during a season. I do have my eyes on a Suzuki 175 4-stroke, but for now the Merc soldiers on reliably.
I have a ton of other bells and whistles (I highly recommend the automatic charging relay), and the bottom line is that for my uses, it is an excellent boat.
I guess my biggest disappointment are the cheesy plastic through hulls (all seven of them). I will be changing them out, as they are an achilles heel in what is otherwise one solid boat.
Any other questions, feel free to ask.
phatwhaler posted 11-05-2007 10:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
I have the same boat with a 150 EFI merc.

My top speed os 43mph and I can get just under 3mpg at 25mph cruise.

I have had my boat for 6 years and it has been all over the state of Florida for fishing/cruising. I took it to Bimini in the summer of 2003.

These 20 Outrages have a great console with doors on both sides and a electronics box. The new Whalers just have a flat space of fiberglass to mount your electronics. If you are running in the ocean I'd get some trim tabs. These boats have a tendency to porpoise.

If you have the fishing package with the leaning post/live well and the tray table deal by the splash well, there isn't too much space in the back of the boat.

The motor you are getting could be considered the small block Chevy of outboards. Very reliable and cheap to maintain. However these motors aren't known for their economy.

This should be a great boat for someone boating around South Florida.

Later.

mobrienfl posted 11-05-2007 10:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for mobrienfl  Send Email to mobrienfl     
Thank you so much for the information. I appreciate the offer of future advice and will keep you posted!
phatwhaler posted 11-05-2007 10:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
These boat do have many thru hulls.

1. Bow compartment
2. Port Fish Box
3. Stbd Fish Box
4. Port Scupper
5. Stbd Scupper
6. Port Splash Well
7. Stbd Splash Well
8. Livewell Drain
9. Fish Box Drain
10. Bilge drain.
11. Port quarter compartment
12. Stbd quarter compartment
13. Seacock.

Mine are all looking OK except for the flappers for the drains are looking old.


rumrunner posted 11-05-2007 11:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for rumrunner  Send Email to rumrunner     
Phatwhaler reminded me of quite a few thru hulls that I forgot! I concur on the top speed, mine about 44 mph (not sure of the the prop stats of the top of my head).


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mobrienfl posted 11-05-2007 11:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for mobrienfl  Send Email to mobrienfl     
We are putting a hitch on the truck for trailering...do you have an idea of the weight for the boat, engine, and trailer?
mobrienfl posted 11-05-2007 12:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for mobrienfl  Send Email to mobrienfl     
Sorry for the dumb question - it looks like 2200 lbs for the boat, 1200 for the trailer and 437 for the engine: 3837
where2 posted 11-05-2007 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
Good luck with the tow to florida. Give me a shout if you decide to bring it up around the Palm Beach Inlet area. I'm in North Palm Beach. Watch Boston Whaler's website mid-spring for details about the Owner's Event in Stuart.

My father has a 1997 20' Edgewater which is very similar in design to the 20' Outrage. I suggest getting a full sunbrella cover for the boat to keep the leaves, rain, and sun out of the boat when its not in use, unless you're going to store it inside an in-out storage facility somewhere.

where2 posted 11-05-2007 08:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
Another weight to add to your towing equation: How much fuel is remaining in the boat currently? Add roughly 7 pounds per gallon... My father's 20' Edgewater is 4500 pounds on its trailer on a freight scale with a 200Hp Yamaha, aluminum double axle trailer and 90 gallons of fuel.
drd posted 11-08-2007 07:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for drd  Send Email to drd     
Martha, Ihave a 1998 20 with a 200hp merc offshore. As I responded in another post I love my outrage. I bought the boat about 3 summers ago. I have gone over the complete boat since then and replaced/imporoved a lot of things, including the gas tank. I added a t-top, and new electronics, and dual axle trailer. The boat is pretty basic, its easy to maintain and trailer etc. I would agree with rumrunner with his coments on ride. the boat defiantly needs trim tabs especially if gets a little bit rough out. I don't exactly know my fuel burn numbers no meter, but with an 87 gallon tank, gas really is never an issue for me and what I do with the boat. The mercury is a soild engine. my top speed as per GPS was in the low 50s withouth the t-top, with t-top and enclosure up its in the high 40s. I don't know prop specs at this time. I have never weighed boat and trailer, but have always assummed it to be about 5000lbs loaded up. I use the boat in the long Island sound of CT. for what I do the boat is perfect, it gets fairly shallow, and is seaworthy if gets a little sporty out.
boatdryver posted 11-09-2007 08:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for boatdryver  Send Email to boatdryver     
drd, I was a little surprised to read that with a 1998 boat you had to deal with the fuel tank. could you tell us what the problem was and, if you had the work done commercially, what the rough cost was to get at the tank and fix the problem?
Fuel tank problems that are undetectable at the time of purchase are one of the areas that keep me holding on to my old Montauk, even though I really want to move up to a larger Whaler with a V hull.

JimL

drd posted 11-09-2007 09:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for drd  Send Email to drd     
JImL, I was very surprised to have it happen myself. I had my boat for about 2 years. after having the boat in the water for about a month, I was about to leave on a normal fishing trip when I noticed my gas gauge was low. Funny since I had about 1/3 of a tank the day before. I opened the bilge to find it full of gas. Turns out My gas tank had a small approx 1/4" hole in the bottom of my tank. the cause of failure was due to the rubber pads under the tank becoming loose. I ended up repalcing the tank myself after getting outrageous qoutes(up to 10K) to have it professioanlly done. Turned out to be a relatively simple job. I had to first remove the t-top which was just installed a month previous. The tank cover unscrews from the hull, and gives you complete access to the tank, and bilge. What had happened was the tank pads were installed with a very small line of adhesive. as a result they became loose and the tank lost support and failed. Occassioanlly over the last year I would find these rubber pads floating in my bilge. So in hind site I should have known that there was an impending disaster. the worst part of the whole project was waiting a month for the tank to be made. I have many pictures of the project, and if I ever get time I want to post it.
onlyawhaler posted 11-19-2007 06:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for onlyawhaler  Send Email to onlyawhaler     
Hi Martha

I have had a late 90s 20 outrage this summer up here in Utah and Colorado and I couldn't be more pleased. I had an 18 classic I had to sell awhile back which was very tough and while sitting out for a while I re-thought my next re-entry into my next Whaler.

I chose the 90s era 20 outrage because it is available out there in the market place and if one looks, you can find nice ones. My wife and family enjoy this one more because of the nicer, more supportive captains chairs with the footrests on the console, rear quarter seats and lots more storage than our previous classic.

It has more seating room when taking out scouts and friends. The wide gunnels are extra handy and the foward anchor locker area sits up high and it is perfect for fly casting or any casting standing up there braced against the bow rail.

The center console has lot more wind protection and the lockable electronics box is really handy.

Ours has a 225 Yamaha two stroke OX66 which really makes the boat. Up here at altitude it will hit 46. I can't comment on your Mercury, I haven't owned one.

It seems solid and rides well. Trim tabs help for uneven loads and the boat had a slight tendency to porpoise when stern loaded with people.

I am considering the electric Lenco trolling tabs for next spring for sneaking up on trout in the back bays quietly and striper boils down at Lake Powell

Follow my profile for a few pictures. I hope you are happy with yours. We love our new Whaler. It has been a big hit

Onlyawhaler

go_fish_in posted 11-19-2007 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for go_fish_in    
I currently have a 21 CC with a 97 Merc 200hp (carbed). I've had several 2-strokes over the years and this motor has been very reliable and starts easily. It's a little rough at idle speeds and seems to foul plugs quickly. I noticed when I got the boat that it was a little sluggish getting on plane, replaced the plugs and problem solved.
boxers posted 11-25-2007 09:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for boxers  Send Email to boxers     
Congratulations,

We have had a 1998 20ft Outrage for the past 5 five years. After buying it we immediately re-powered to a Yamaha F225 (much quieter and no smoke). WOT = 46-48mph. What a difference a foot(and another 110HP) makes. My previous 18ft with 115HP could barely get on plane with 4 adults. The OR-20 is a dream boat with 225HP as it is rated for 9 people and can carry 6-8 comfortably. No issues with the tru hulls...but I did replace the plastic covers covering the tru hulls to the port and stbd. fish boxes. Another helpful item was to add 12 X 12 trim tabs. With the large fuel capacity 90+ gallons and a heavy Four stroke on the back the scuppers do sit just above the water level at rest. The console is much nicer than the newer whalers in that the electronics are enclosed and the design will allow for locking. The boat also has wide gunnel's that can serve as a seat if someone wants to sit along side the two persons at the helm. Our boat has very comfortable seats that are just the right height if you want to drive the boat sitting down. They also adjust fore and aft so you can lean on them for support while in a standing position(esp. in rough seas). Other boats that I have been in have the seats too low so you must stand or you cannot see above the CC. The anchor locker is another plus and large enough for two anchors. We keep our second anchor in the stern opposite the live bait well-which serves as a really great head for the kids...when not being used for its intended purposes. The grab-rails are of excellent quality and nicely extend over the top of our CC (no T-top). We have a twin axle aluminum trailer which is probably really designed for a 21-22 ft boat. If you factor in fuel/oil batteries and anchors ect. the boat probably weighs 3400-3500 plus the weight of the trailer. You should have many great years of boating from your newly acquired 1997 OR-20 and the 200HP two stroke should make the boat very responsive (at 2200lbs hull weight). All the best for your maiden voyage mobrienfl.

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