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About an 18 Ventura
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posted 11-26-2007 06:43 PM ET (US)
I guess it never fails. Now that I finally have my classic Whaler, I'm thinking about a a larger boat to handle bigger water. It's a disease, I know it!
Given the type of boating we do, we're looking for a cruising boat that allows us to venture out into the Chesapeake Bay enough to explore other Rivers. The Ventura seems to be a good all around comfortable boat with the bowrider type of configuration and the adequate fishing set-up.
Most likely we'll start with a nice used (1998-2003) and decide if it is a good fit.
Any Ventura owners out there that would like to share the good, bad, and ugly about this model?
BTW - We plan to keep the Sport!
posted 11-27-2007 06:53 PM ET (US)
As JimH would diplomatically say "CW has an excellent search engine..."
Try searching Ventura and see what pops up.
I like mine - better than anything else I've seen.
posted 11-28-2007 06:53 AM ET (US)
Resale for the Dauntless line is better and the boat imo is better suited for all around family use. It is one of Whalers better sellers for the reasons I mentioned earlier. In fact I do not see many listed when searching for other 18 foot Whalers. I am biased owning one for the last 6+ years of course. The Ventura is fine boat as well and others will more than likely chime in. By the way I believe the deadrise on both crafts are the same at 15 degrees.
posted 11-28-2007 09:12 AM ET (US)
Ventura is DC while the dauntless is a CC unless you go back 10+ years. Ventura has higher freeboard and is an all around great family boat, I had both the 98 18' and a 01 21'.
posted 11-28-2007 09:14 AM ET (US)
P.S. The 21' is based on the old Outrage hull and has a deadrise of at least 20*.
posted 11-28-2007 11:55 AM ET (US)
As an owner of a 210 Ventura since July 2005, I have nothing but praise. We added the weather curtains this past season for even more functionality. Very deep and heavy, she rides well. Don't underpower, no matter what model you end up with. I boat on a large NJ bay, and take her fishing out to about 15 miles off the coast comfortably. Performs equally well for both cruising and fishing, IMO.
posted 11-28-2007 12:51 PM ET (US)
I have a 1998 Ventura 18. In general I think it is a great boat. But as with just about anything, there is always room for improvement. It greatly benefits from trim tabs.
It gets pretty heavy in the stern after adding a 15hp kicker motor and bracket and dual batteries. I wish Whaler made a rigid T-top for it.
posted 11-30-2007 03:16 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all of the comments. I've even started looking at the pre 1998 Dauntless DCs for my eventual purchase. Any major differences in ride and performance from the newer Venturas?
posted 11-30-2007 04:31 PM ET (US)
I have a 2002 210 Ventura powered by a 225 Optimax. I look at Ventura models as the SUV's of the Whaler fleet. It can be setup as a fishing or family boat. Ninety percent of the time I use mine as an offshore fishing platform. By offshore, I mean 50 miles to sea. The 210 carries 92 gallons of fuel, 10 gallons of fresh water, has an onboard head, a great forward area for relaxing, but must off all it's built like a tank and ride rock solid.
It has an 8' 4" beam, a 20 degree dead rise at the transom, and 25" gunnels which equates to a very stable and safe roll pattern in 3 - 5 foot seas. I've had mine in some pretty tuff conditions and it's never failed to get my wife and I home safely. It's easy to trailer plus I can launch and recover it by myself with ease.
Here's a link to our web site so you can see her in action. There is embedded videos on the site so click on the links to watch. If you have any questions please don't hestitate to ask. Tombro who posts here also is the proud owner of a 210 so I'm sure he'll give you some insight from his perspective.
Great area for relaxing up forward.
Two of a Kind
My helm area.
Easy to set up for fishing.
Easy to trailer.
You can enclose the aft area for cold weather use
There you go.
posted 12-01-2007 07:47 AM ET (US)
I can't add much more to Tom's nice summary (Umm...possible Cetacea page...?). I first became aware of this model at the NY boat show in 2004, and was impressed with the high sides and beam, and thoughtful layout. After googling a bit more on this site, we decided it would be a great move up from our then 150 Sport. In July 2005 we took delivery of a brand new ordered 210 Ventura. Since that time I have had her out about 50 trips a season, and have clocked 355 engine hours. Still very happy with our purchase, and continue to upgrade and customize each season.
I have a teenage daughter. When she decides to grace us with her presence, she brings a friend or two, and they hang out in the bow and listen to music. My wife and I have the cockpit, and tend to snooze at anchor with our Lab on cruising days, and swim a LOT. When not on a family outing, I fish with friends. This boat is truly ideal for the dual use, and rides like a dream. We are often out in snotty weather and a rough inlet (Barnegat, New Jersey). With my new enclosure, it is rather comfortable out there, and I have kind of a mini express. The first thing I added was another pair of rodholders for trolling. This season we got full canvas (also have a mooring cover), and I put a SS destroyer wheel with powerknob on the helm. Next spring I am upgrading the helm chair with a Pompanette seat.
If possible, I think you may want to go for the 21, as you get the enclosed head, and quite a bit more room to stretch out. Best of luck, and keep us posted on your purchase.
posted 12-01-2007 11:06 PM ET (US)
The 210 has a large compartment just forward of midships on the starboard side under the helm area that provides a large storage area plus terrific access to the batteries and electronics. It is actually large enough to get into and sit to work on wiring/electronincs or if necessary to get out of the elements. Adjacent to this compartment on the port side is an enclosed head that has a large underdeck storage area. Forward of these two compartments under the port/startboard seating cushions there is additional storage. All in all it's a very designed boat.
Starboard storage compartment.
Port head compartment.
posted 12-04-2007 12:30 PM ET (US)
I think the original question was regarding an 18 footer.
posted 12-04-2007 12:38 PM ET (US)
Never hurts to move up a notch. Lot of great deals out their.
posted 12-05-2007 04:39 PM ET (US)
Hi All. I have an 2005 180 Ventura with a 130-HP OptiMax and have put 100 hours on it in the last year and enjoyed every minute. The [fuel economy] is good. With the enclosure on I [am] happy in most weather conditions. I may add a dodger up front and try camping!
posted 12-07-2007 09:52 AM ET (US)
If your boating area involves rough enough conditions that you would want to stand up while running, I'll chime in here.
In a previous thread a Ventura 18 owner pointed out that with the usual canvas attached across the windshield there isn't enough headroom to stand unless you are well under 6 feet. You could always have custom canvas made but it would look funny.
He also said, I believe, that the wheel is so low on the 18 that it would be hard to reach the wheel comfortably anyway while standing.
Although I've not been aboard a 21 Ventura, I've gazed longingly at one here and it looks like it is a large enough boat for these two things to be a non problem. You gotta love that interior freeboard for rough water drift fishing-so much to lean against. The porta-potty would be great as long as someone else empties it! ;-(
posted 12-09-2007 07:47 PM ET (US)
Bay2 I have a 1998 Ventura 20 that is in great shape and am considering moving up bigger. It is a great family boat with lots of seating and a good dry ride. I seem to want to fish offshore more than cruise and this boat does both well. My boat has a johnson oceanrunner 175 that matches the boat well. The 98 and 99 venture model is quite different than the 2000 models.My model doesn't have a head in the side console and has lower sides than the newer ones. It does have the changable bait table and ski pole, bow cover and moring cover. If you would like more info or experiences feel free to email JGFD1HS@aol.com Jay
posted 12-09-2007 08:20 PM ET (US)
As far as standing while running in an 18 Ventura...I stand to operate mine the majority of the time and this is with my factory bimini top up. I do have the tilt hydraulic helm, so I can adjust the wheel angle to optimize for standing or sitting. I much prefer standing...especially in rougher water. There is plenty of clearance under the bimini...I am 5ft. 10. Visibility ahead is also much better when you stand. My wife always stands while driving when she is pulling me skiing...and she has never complained. She gets pissed whenever I mention wanting to sell the boat for something smaller like a 15 Sport....she loves this boat! I guess I do too, but I've always wanted the Whaler Sports Car...the 15!
posted 12-10-2007 05:02 PM ET (US)
Actually, the person referred to by Boatdryver is probably me. I'm 6 foot and my boat has a Mills bimini that gives me excellent headroom. They made an Eisenglass front panel that zips to the bimini and gives me a dry ride. The standard canvas from BW listed 5'10" of headroom.
The Mills setup looks factory - they used to supply canvas to BW - and it fits perfectly.
AFA running standing up: sosmerc runs his comfortably. I only stand to back up or dock. Otherwise, it feels cramped. Steve and I have the exact same boat, so YMMV.
I installed a seatpost that's about 6" taller than stock and it allows me to get my feet under me for rough water. I discovered a gizmo called a Wind Away that clamps to the windshield frame and completely ends the watering eye problem. Google them.
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