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paddyt111 posted 01-21-2008 12:21 AM ET (US)   Profile for paddyt111   Send Email to paddyt111  
I'm delighted to make my first post as a new Whaler owner!! I recently purchased a Ventura in Florida and will be trailering my boat to Newfoundland Canada to use in our bays. I'm sure it will see it's share of icebergs.
It is a 2005 Ventura with a 225HP Verado, 128 hours, covers, no trailer, great condition, VHF only, Stereo, Fishing package. I paid $40,000. What do you guys think of the value? I priced a bunch of them at considerably more.....Look forward to other opinions. Pat
Sal A posted 01-21-2008 06:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
Conratulations on your new to you 210 Ventura!

It is nicely laid out, battle ready, versatile boat. Tombro and BlueWaterPirate on this site each have one and sing its praises all the time. I have seen that boat priced in the mid40's by me, slightly used, with a 225Optimax.

I think your price is fine, and more importantly you won't care about whether you paid $40k or $50k once you start enjoying your boat's fine qualities.

paddyt111 posted 01-21-2008 06:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Thanks, I thought it was a reasonable price. I can't wait for the winter to be over. Interestingly enough, I was just at the Toronto boat show and saw the 225 Verado on the back of a Whaler that was on display. I couldn't believe the size, WOW!!!

I'm very impressed with the weight (3300 lbs), I hope it translates to a very stable boat in rough water.
Pat

bluewaterpirate posted 01-21-2008 08:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Paddy ........

Welcome to the Ventura Club .... your going to love your boat. It's a terrific crossover boat that is designed & built to handle just about any thing you want it to do or throw at it. It is a very stable boat & safe boat that will give you many years of service but must of all memories.

You got a great deal! Congrats on your new family member!

Tom

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/show/external/243051/323254/ 14392990/file.jpg

mattrix posted 01-21-2008 09:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for mattrix  Send Email to mattrix     
Congrats - you will love her! I just picked up my 2002 last week.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jomatt/sets/72157603719384955/

Enjoy!

tombro posted 01-21-2008 10:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
Congrats! I'm sure you will love her as much as we love ours. In your neck of the woods I would be adding the full enclosure, pronto!
paddyt111 posted 01-21-2008 11:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Tombro....Do you use your full canvas regularly? Is yours from BW? From the photos I've seen, having the top and sides on with the back open strikes me as a great cool day set up? Any photos of your set up? Lastly, when you leave yours at the dock, do you use the enclosure or do you use the bow and cock pit cover.
Pat
tombro posted 01-22-2008 08:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
See below for a photo.
Yes, I use the enclosure all the time, with the back open. I put up the back cover when away from the marina. Mine is aftermarket, and is a combination of Sunbrella and Strataglas. We are very happy with it. The OEM mooring cover gets little use now, except for the bow canvas, which keeps you toasty in combination with the three sided strata.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e127/lanoka/010_16_0001.jpg

bluewaterpirate posted 01-22-2008 11:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Here's a picture of my enclosuer. This is a copy of the Whaler curtains that come with Ventura if ordered. The guy did a nice job for me.

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/show/external/497108/695627/ 32626670/file.jpg

Tom

paddyt111 posted 01-22-2008 01:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Thanks guys. The fact that you took the time to send me photos is terrific.

I met a BW dealer the the Toronto Boat Show who said he would sell be the sides and back. Are you guys OEM fans? or after market fans? Both look pretty close with the exception of the window in back stern cover.
Pat

bluewaterpirate posted 01-22-2008 01:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
The stern window is how the OEM curtains are designed. I feel is a must when using the curtains underway. You have to be able to see astern of your boat.

Tom

paddyt111 posted 01-23-2008 06:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
I just learned that my Ventura has a full set of OEM weather curtains. Thankfully! I was looking at the photos you provided of your curtains, It appears when you have the rear curtain installed you loose a fair amount of space (not that you are using it all that often?

I had friends wintering in Florida to take my Ventura out for a test drive (you'll remember I haven't taken delivery yet), they were very impressed with the boat. Both my buddies are Crab Plant owners here in Newfoundland and have been around boats all their life. Some their comments included; loved the 225 Verado - said it was the nicest outboard they had ever experienced - quiet, high tech and went like stink. Loved the electronic throttle. Felt the boat was the BMW of boats - the hardware was heavy and all recessed. Boat made great use of space. The 3300lbs weight gave the boat a sturdiness only felt in a much larger boat. They moved around the boat while the boat was doing 40 miles an hour and found she didn't move or shift. They were disappointed that the weather was so calm as they were ubable to test the boat in rough water. Lastly they said that this Boston Whaler Ventura 21 reaffirmed the comment that YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. I got the feeling, they were a little envious!

bluewaterpirate posted 01-23-2008 08:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
paddy .......

You loose some space in the back but you'll be warm as toast. Your friends are right, the boat is rock solid and rides like a tank. As you know I fish mine offshore in the 50 - 60 mile range and I can tell you from experience the boat will get take anything your throw at her. As Tombro pointed out it's one of the forgotten Whalers but it's also one of the best ever designed!

Enjoy your Ventura and all the great memories she will give you!

Congrats!

Tom

bluewaterpirate posted 01-23-2008 02:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Here yo go paddy ..... till you getr underway on your Ventura.

Two videos ........

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/album/556377/782055#imageID=11242788

Enjoy.

Tom

tombro posted 01-23-2008 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
I also like to think of this hull as a "wolf in sheeps clothing". ;)
paddyt111 posted 01-24-2008 05:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Tom, the videos were a real fix while I wait for delivery of my new whaler. I can see how you guys are so proud of your boats. Thank you for sharing this with me. I promise to post videos of my new Ventura running around a bunch of magnificent icebergs in late May early June (off the coast of Newfoundland). They are truly a sight to behold. Some of them the size of small islands! Having said that, if I get a moment later today, I'll find a couple of photos we took last spring and post them.

I plan to be in Florida for a week the beginning of April. I plan to take the boat out in the Sanibel area for a day or two. Are you guys on the coast or the gulf?

I noticed the life jacket your wife was wearing, what type was it? It was small and not cumbersome.

mattrix posted 01-24-2008 06:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for mattrix  Send Email to mattrix     
My boat is kept in Dania near Port Everglades on the east coast. Sanibel is great forboating, good fishing also.
bluewaterpirate posted 01-24-2008 08:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Our life jackets are made by SOSpenders ...

http://www.sospenders.com/dyn_prodlist.php?k=76831

Tom

bluewaterpirate posted 01-24-2008 09:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
I'm in North Carolina and fish out of Morehead City.

btb posted 01-24-2008 11:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for btb  Send Email to btb     
A Genuine question from a relative Newbie:

I currently own a 1991 16 SL - a dual console Whaler with a 90 hp Yamaha, and it has a 22 gal gas tank. I have done a round trip to the Coronados and back of 66 statute miles which is about my range limit without taking extra gas.

I m planning to move up sizewise to a) get a better ride and b) get more range.

Up until now I have been considering only an Outrage, which seems to be the most typically recommended offshore fishing boat. I am currently looking at all newer 18 to 21 footers, but doubt my budget will stretch to the top end of that range.

But now I am wondering - what about a Ventura?? These posts indicate the Ventura has a good ride - is it on a hull similar to an outrage? The freeboard looks similar to the Outrage. And its still good for "family" trips, or showing visitors the bay etc...

I really like the storage space in the twin consoles of my 16 SL, and I am betting the Venturas also have a lot of stowage space - the outrages have way less storage.

Anyway, given I will use it almost exclusively for fishing, want to go offshore, around say San Clemente island and to some of the banks out of San Diego, do you think a Ventura would be a good choice?

Tohsgib posted 01-24-2008 12:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I have always found that dual consoles or cuddies have more room than center consoles. The downside is you can fish AROUND the boat. For those who do not fight fish like that, why not have a giant deck area instead? I prefer more deck area, seating, and storage that a CC does not offer.
bluewaterpirate posted 01-24-2008 02:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
The 210 Ventura is built on the old 21' Outrage hull. It is a boat that can do it all plus it has terrific storage areas. It's built like a tank and can handle anything you throw at it.

This is how mine is set up for offshore fishing.

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/show/external/556377/782060/ 11641416/file.jpg

The helm area gives you lots of options when it comes to installing electronics. Here's a picture of my helm area.

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/show/external/354225/491483/ 22580052/file.jpg

Here's a video taken 50 miles offshore on one of our offshore fishing adventures.

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/album/556377/782056#imageID=14655540

Hope this helps.

Tom

paddyt111 posted 01-25-2008 08:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
Great photos of the electronics.

I have to trailer my Ventura from Florida to Canada. Do you feel I should consider having the boat shrink wrapped to stop the boat from getting dirty. How much?? easy to have done??

I had a friend trailer his boat up last year...what a mess when it arrived in Newfoundland, it looked like the hull was dirt grey with growths all over the hull. The canvas and the hull was a bugger to clean. Any thoughts on how to keep the boat reasonably clean on a six day tow??

paddyt111 posted 01-25-2008 08:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
bluewaterpirate....do you have two GPS's on your boat??
paddyt111 posted 01-25-2008 08:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
bluewaterpirate....do you have two GPS's on your boat??
bluewaterpirate posted 01-25-2008 08:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Yes .... backup with XM weather.
btb posted 01-25-2008 11:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for btb  Send Email to btb     
Obviously you will check out the trailer etc before towing your new boat that far - also check the tires - not necessarily for wear but for age - "they" recommend changing tires every 6 or 7 years. Tires with little wear can look ok, but can be brittle with age - check the DOT codes on the tires, and replace them if they are near the recommended replacement age - you don't want a flat on that trip.
paddyt111 posted 01-26-2008 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
My comments about the mess referred to the boat not the trailer, thus my question, if you had to trailer a boat 6 days from Florida to Newfoundland, would you consider shrink wrapping the boat to avoid it from getting filthy?? pat

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