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2004 Nantucket Prices, Assessment of Condition
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posted 02-16-2008 07:52 PM ET (US)
I'm looking at a 2004 Nantucket with a 115-HP Mercury. The boat overall appears to be in very good shape. The thru-hull fittings in the transom are made of the material that looks like plastic. Is this true for all Boston Whaler boats? The outside of some of these seem to be dry rotted and one is actually broken off. All of the material that is going through the hull seems intact. Is this a problem? Is it a big deal to replace? Can they be replaced with something other than plastic? What is the likelihood of water intrusion? Can a boat surveyor check for water intrusion and if so what kind of equipment would they use? His asking price is $20,500. What are they really worth, or selling for? I'm going to use the boat for family cruising and offshore on good days. Would this boat or a 190 Montauk be better? Can a trolling motor be added to all of the Montauk models?
posted 02-16-2008 08:45 PM ET (US)
The 2004 Nantucket with 115 Hp Merc is a bit under powered but still a decent boat. If you are serious about this boat my advice to you is have it looked over by a professional surveyer. It will be worth the money and anything that is less than satisfactory can be used to help negotiate a better price as long as it is not a major problem with hull or motor. You should still have a hull warranty with the Nantucket which is transferable for $50.
posted 02-17-2008 08:48 AM ET (US)
I don't know where you are located but that price seems really low. I just saw two listed the other day in Pennsylvania and Maryland. Both had 150-HP motors and both were close to $30,000. I think one was Sal's old boat.
posted 02-17-2008 10:19 AM ET (US)
Would the thru-hulls be covered with the hull warranty?
posted 02-17-2008 10:26 AM ET (US)
Feejer--That price sounds about right with only a 115-HP engine. A 150-HP engine is a much better match, no?
Buying at a price arond $9,000 less than the same boat with a 150-HP engine will probably allow a re-power at a break even cost.
Depending upon Doc's boating plans a 190 Montauk or a 16 to 18 Dauntless could be a much better choice.
posted 02-17-2008 11:18 AM ET (US)
Lots of variables. The condition of the boat? Options? Trailer? Assuming a 115 Merc 2 or 4 stroke, trailer, swimstep/ladder, and sound hull, the price is aggressive.
If the hull had dings everywhere, a neglected motor, signs of abuse, water intrusion, etc., then the price is not so good. The plastic thru-hulls were always something I didn't like on my boat, because I always worried that four seasons could make them brittle and crack. That said, a dealer should be able to fix that under warranty I imagine; you should call Chuck Bennett at Boston Whaler to be sure. I have also seen many people replace their plastic ones with brass ones as well (if you are interested in instructions, then email me and I will send you to a link that details how a friend of mine did the replacement on his Parker).
I know I may be in the minority, but I am loathe to buy a used boat unless I am pretty sure it was cared for. If there were obvious signs of abuse, I am the kind who would rather buy new, pay more, get the warranties, and piece of mind. Or pay up for a quality used vessel. I don't want a steal on a boat, and I don't want a 50 cent hamburger.
posted 02-17-2008 11:23 AM ET (US)
If you like the 190 Nantucket/190 Outrage hull, and possible the 190 Montauk hull, your options seem to be:
New 190 Outrage with a 150 at about $40,000
If this is a long term boat for you, and you are not prone to outgrow and flip it (like me unfortunately), pay up and enjoy the peace of mind.
posted 02-17-2008 12:16 PM ET (US)
I think Boston Whaler recommends periodic replacement of all through hulls. Yes, they are the plastic type and I have been told but have no opinion on it that the plastic ones are less prone to leakage but of course don't last as long. I don't know.
posted 02-17-2008 06:35 PM ET (US)
Went to look at another used Boston Whaler boat today, a larger one. It's a 1999 Outrage 21 with 1999 Merc 200-HP OptiMax and an aftermarket T-top. The GPS antennae is mounted on the center console and the VHF antenna is mounted on the gunwale. Boat was dirty but hull looked like it was in great shape. You would think that the owner would have washed it. No bottom paint. No trailer. No trim tabs. Porta-potty in console, a plus for wife and 2 daughters. Asking price $21,900. I'm not a Mercury fan and would probably repower it with a new 175-200 Suzuki. Any idea about how much it would cost to re-power the boat, not including the cost of the engine? Maybe better off to suck it up and buy a new one. (More money, piece of mind due to new wiring, gas tank, still get a merc, lose the toilet). Any thoughts?
posted 02-17-2008 08:35 PM ET (US)
I have a 2006 190 Outrage (same hull as the Nantucket) and still love it like the day a brought her home. This boat is easy to launch and load by myself. I have the Mercury 150 Verado which I'm still impressed with every time I take it out. I would be very surprised if you test drove the Verado and didn't immediately decide this motor was for you. Why so eager to change from the Mercury 200 OptiMax on the Outrage [you are] looking at? I don't remember Mercury engines being that bad.. Good luck in your quest for the new boat.
posted 02-17-2008 08:52 PM ET (US)
By now considering a 1999 Outrage 21 (you're talking a real boat now) you are getting into new territory involving a nine-year-old two-cycle DFI motor, tow vehicle capacity and ease of launching if you are going to keep the new boat on a trailer.
I have just spent four months searching for my next Boston Whaler boat. I started out looking at the 190 Montauk, then the 190 Outrage, then a used Outrage 21 and a used Dauntless 22. My rods and cones nearly wore out. I wound up buying a model I hadn't considered at first.
I'd be happy to talk to you about my experiences and what my thinking was and is. My use is similar to yours.
I'm not a good enough typist to cover everything here.
Call me if you'd like.
916-451-4410 after noon Pacific time tomorrow through Wednesday
posted 02-18-2008 06:11 PM ET (US)
To discover if the through-hull fitting replacement would be covered under the original ten-year hull warranty, I suggest you contact Boston Whaler customer service.
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