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Envy for 190 MONTAUK
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posted 02-18-2008 08:38 AM ET (US)
I went to the Ocean City Boat Show yesterday and they had a 190 MONTAUK so I camped out in it for a while. I saw one in Annapolis last year, but the difference just did not fully register with me until yesterday.
Man, what a difference. This is a nice boat. I envy you guys that got one already. The room around the boat is really incredible. Fuel cell, live well, storage in the cockpit. I see they have a trolling motor option for the bow but you can't get the bow rail. Anybody done this? Not sure I could be without the rail.
Hell with the money part, I am going to trade my 170 as soon as can swing it. I hate having addictions like this. Sigh.
posted 02-18-2008 09:11 AM ET (US)
It is a beautiful boat. I had a wonderful first year fishing and boating on it. The room to move around on it is truly amazing. And its versatility as a back bay boat that go out on rough open water can't be beat.I am chomping at the bit to get the DeBunker back on the water.
posted 02-18-2008 10:23 AM ET (US)
How easy/manageable is it for a one person launch and recovery (that was one of the main reasons I wanted a 17 footer). Had my M170 less than a year and love it, but that 190... I'm with REM on the addictions.
posted 02-18-2008 11:44 AM ET (US)
I'm coming up on a year and about 80 hrs. with my 190 which I traded in a 2004 170. It certainly is a nice boat. I can not get into as skinny a water as the 170 but, I'm working on that (raising the motor) first. It does very well offshore within reason for a 19' boat, great range and very stable, lots of storage, very economical fuel wise (same as the 170). As far as launching it compared to the 170 it's about the same however, I can't move it around as easily as the 170. It will not fit in my garage so man handling it is not really an issue. I would say the monthly cost for me anyway are about double the 170. The insurance is higher, storage and the higher payment. Good Luck
posted 02-18-2008 01:08 PM ET (US)
Get the bow rail and put a Honda kicker on it like I did!
posted 02-18-2008 01:37 PM ET (US)
BlueMax, I owned a 170 Montauk before I purchased the 190 Montauk. No difference to me to launch the 190 by myself,which I do the majority of the time. Recovery is actually easier, especially in windy conditions when I drive it on to the trailer. The extra beam and weight makes the boat much less susceptible to the wind.
posted 02-18-2008 03:06 PM ET (US)
80 hrs on mine and just a great boat and very capable i all types of water. Very impressive and very well built. Nineteen feet doesn't get any better.
posted 02-18-2008 11:01 PM ET (US)
We bought a 190 Montauk just over a month ago, and just love it!
It's quiet and very affordable to run. The 8' beam is great, especially the fact that it's 8’ wide up to the bow. The reverse chine makes for a stable fishing platform; it doesn't rock as much as a deep V hull.
Trolling motor option:
We have never had an electric trolling motor, but has anybody looked at putting one on the swim platform or in the rear of the boat?
posted 02-19-2008 07:17 AM ET (US)
Have any of you gone with the Verado 135? Any thoughts on this motor on the boat?
posted 02-19-2008 08:33 AM ET (US)
Yes, I have the 135 Verado and am very pleased with it. It has ample power to carry three fisherman, gear and 60 gallons of fuel and get you there and back with little effort. The boat planes with the load I described under 4 seconds, cruises nicely at 25-27mph under 4000rpm's, and depending on wind and sea conditions will hit speeds in the 45mph range . Overall, I think I burn about 4gph. The 135 comes with Smartcraft gauges which provide good operations feedback and DTS throttle which after some time to get familiar with because of its sensitivity, I really like. Having said all that, the price differential between the 135 Verado and the 115 is $4500. You decide. It was worth it to me.
posted 02-19-2008 09:04 PM ET (US)
We went with the 115 over the 135 mainly because of price and that we only fish inshore. Where we fish, just off the ICW there are 25 MPH maximum speed limits.
If we fished offshore, and the price difference was $4,500 (you really get a lot of stuff, not just 20 HP) for that price difference we would buy the 135. I personally believe that the 135 will also help when it's time to sell the boat.
We are going in a different direction; we want to go slower and quieter. We are eager to hear answers regarding the electric trolling motor and where people have installed them on Montauks (especially at the rear of the boat).
Hope this helps,
posted 02-19-2008 10:08 PM ET (US)
I put my 8hp Honda kicker on the starboard rear. I had a motor bracket installed. You could do the same with an electric right on the boat's transom with a pad. I changed out my main 115 Merc with a Honda 90 after 25hr , beacause of problems with the Merc. I have a better hole shot but lost 5mph at the top. I get 1/3 better gas mileage. The weight is perfect now with the kicker and main Hondas. If you want a picture I can email you a few.
posted 02-20-2008 09:02 PM ET (US)
I would love to see a photo.
posted 02-21-2008 11:13 PM ET (US)
My email is firstname.lastname@example.org . Send me yours and I will send you a few.
posted 02-22-2008 06:18 PM ET (US)
Sorry, I forgot.
We went and saw a "specialist" today that is well known in South Florida for rigging e-motors on fishing boats and he strongly suggested that we pull the boat rather than push it from (the rear).
Now this has opened a whole new can of worms...
Does anybody know?
posted 02-22-2008 09:03 PM ET (US)
The Montauk can be ordered from the factory with the trolling motor package. It has all of the wiring and breakers necessary for a 24 volt bow mount trolling motor. It also deletes the bow rail. There is a small tunnel that runs from the bow to the console. The front navigation light also uses this tunnel for its wiring. The electric trolling motor works much better from the bow especially on a heavy boat.
posted 02-22-2008 10:03 PM ET (US)
Check out pages 2-13 and 2-14 of the Owners Manual - http://www.whaler.com/Rec/pdfs/manuals/2008_Manuals/190Montauk.pdf
posted 02-23-2008 12:32 AM ET (US)
I am potentially interested in adding a bow mounted trolling motor to an already built 190 Montauk that is not pre-wired for a trolling motor from the factory.
Can wires for an add-on trolling motor fit down the tunnel (from the bow light to CC)?
posted 08-03-2008 11:01 AM ET (US)
Interesting thread. I'd also like any information about an electric trolling motor in the front. I'm considering an 07. Did they make any changes to the 08 model?
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