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Dauntless 16 Livewell
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posted 02-24-2008 08:04 PM ET (US)
I have a 2001 Dauntless 16 with comfort package. Didn't get the livewell installed under drivers seat and now wishing I had. Curious if any of you have any experience installing livewell, where to get materials, and how complicated it is. Second questions is whether it is easier, more practical to convert the cooler in front of the center console.
posted 02-25-2008 05:53 PM ET (US)
The 16 Dauntless livewell installation is indeed under the pilot's seat, although my boat doesn't have one. The livewell requires the installation of two thru-hull fittings, one for the pickup through the bottom of the hull in the aft starboard bilge, and one in the portside transom for the drain. I don't recall seeing any special molding area in the hull for the pickup thru-hull, and I'd certainly be nervous about drilling through for an installation. The transom shouldn't be too difficult.
See the diagram at http://www.whalerparts.com/Diagrams/2004/160%20Dauntless/ PB160DA04%20Model%20(1).pdf for the 2004 Dauntless 160. Earlier ones *should* be similar, but I wasn't able to bring up the diagrams for the earlier models on the computer I'm using right now.
posted 02-25-2008 07:08 PM ET (US)
Storage being in pretty short supply I was not going to give up my under seat storage or my cooler for bait on my Dauntless 16.
Perhaps I'm lucky but for live bait I find shrimp to fill the bill 95% of the time and bull minnows for the other 5%. Both species keep well year round in a five gallon plastic bucket with pair of C cell batteries driving an aerator. Even on a hot summer day the bait remains lively for several hours.
I've found that while fishing three men from my boat the five gallon bucket can be moved about as needed to serve all of us.
I've also heard of a similar setup using a small tank of compressed oxygen which is reported to really keep the bait fired up. If I come across a compressed oxygen system system at a reasonable price I plan to try it.
posted 02-26-2008 08:54 PM ET (US)
I would try to use the cooler( you can buy kits to add a spray bar) or a small portable livewell. I followed the plumbing down once to see where the pump was and I believe the fuel tank partially obstructs the pump from above. I have used my livewell many times and it works great, have kept bass and bait fish/shrimp in it. If you are using it only as a baitwell it would not be worth the trouble to install.
I would prefer the extra storage instead in the long run as I keep items stored in there when I'm not using it to fish. Extra life jackets, a drift sock and anything that gets wet can be stored in there as long as the spray nozzle is closed.
posted 02-27-2008 01:51 PM ET (US)
I have a 2001 with the under seat baitwell. The location works out great for me. The only issue I have is the heavy seat you have to open each time to get your bait. And riding in sloppy seas your pants will get wait. I plan to install some sort of hinge support to hold it open. I'll try to get over to the boat soon and take some photos soon of the location of the fittings and the through-hull fitting. I've drilled a few holes in mine for other reasons (motor bracket, etc.) and it really was not a big deal. Then again, I'm a little crazy and pretty good with tools.
posted 02-29-2008 10:08 PM ET (US)
OK I have a Dauntless 14. My boat uses the same livewell setup as a Dauntless 16.
I installed it myself. My boat didn't have the livewell when I bought it but it was prepiped. The pump was already installed thru the bottom of the boat and the tube was plugged. Wiring was hooked up. The aft drain tube was installed but plugged. To run the tubing, I had to remove the floor. It may be possible to do it without removing the floor but you would probably have to have 5 foot long very skinny arms. To remove the floor you have to first unscrew the center console and tip it forward. Remove all the screws from the floor and remove all the caulk from the seam. I was going to do this anyway to run my locator wires on the left side of the boat. (I was getting interference from the wire harness on the right side.) It was pretty time consuming but not hard and somewhat fun. At least I didn't have to drill that big hole in the bottom of my boat, it was already there. When its all set up I put some foam rope in the groove of the floor and caulked the seam. My caulk bead looks pretty good but later I found out its better to mask both sides of the joint before caulking. It makes a nicer bead.
The livewell works pretty neat. When you are underway you can fill the well without using the pump. The intake on the bottom of the boat is like a little scoop that forces water from the forward motion of the boat through the pump and into the livewell without the pump running. There is a valve/sprayer thing in the livewell. Make sure that its off if you have towels or lifejackets or a camcorder in the livewell when underway. One of the first times out in the boat after installing the livewell we inadvertantly filled the livewell and our beach towels got sopping wet and weighed about 30 pounds.
When sitting still you can fill the livewell with the pump. It will drain by itself if you pull the plug or take out the overflow tube. Whichever you are using at the time.
Check your boat to see if it is prepiped. Is the pump already there like my boat and is the drain through the transom like mine? Otherwise you have some drilling to do.
I got the whole livewell package from Twin Cities Marine in Two Rivers Wisconsin. It included the livewell tub, all tubing, clamps, wire, pump, thru-hull fittings, a splash collar thingy that goes inside the well to prevent splashing and some extra stuff.
The tubing was NOT the same size as all my prepiped fittings. I got some adapters from West Marine that worked fine.
It was good to do it myself. Took about a weekend. It was good to see what was under my floor, fuel tank, wire harness, etc. I now know I can fix anything under there.
Now the kicker is I don't remember getting any instructions for the install. I save every piece of paper and documentation and I can't find any info or instructions. You can get a pretty good idea how to install by looking at the parts diagrams and parts lists at www.whalerparts.com
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