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alfred posted 03-26-2008 10:06 AM ET (US)   Profile for alfred   Send Email to alfred  
I can across a near new 190 Outrage, the owner has had it for only 3 months but for the first 2 months (since he took delivery), the boat was in the water with no bottom paint. He has since hauled it and it sits in a trailer and has bottom paint on it.

Should I walk away?

Tohsgib posted 03-26-2008 11:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
No...why would you? Last I heard water has never hurt a boat.
Feejer posted 03-26-2008 11:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
You can try to tell him he's done a few thousand dollars of damage to the gel coat and if he wants to sell the boat to you he'll have to drop the price. LOL
K Albus posted 03-26-2008 11:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
Alfred - Sitting in the water without bottom paint should not hurt a boat. Unless there is visible marine growth on the boat's bottom, or visible osmotic blisters, it should be no problem, and should not affect the value of the boat in any manner.

Nick - Water has never hurt a boat? Are you serious?

Feejer posted 03-26-2008 02:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
At the least the bottom will have a stain, which can be removed. At the most you might have some growth that will need to be either scrubbed or scraped off. It really should be no big deal. Buy the boat and let us know how you make out.
erik selis posted 03-26-2008 03:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Was it salt water or fresh water? A huge difference if you ask me. I left my Whaler in salt water, unpainted, for 2.5 weeks during a summer vacation on the Med. All I can say is that it took me weeks to get the surface of the hull smooth again. Another week and I think there would have been damage to the gel-coat. Then again, if he painted it meanwhile, he probably would have sanded out all the bumps in the gel-coat.

Erik

alfred posted 03-26-2008 05:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
The boat was in salt water in the Maine area for 2 months, lots of bottom growth when hauled, but I dont know if there were any blisters. I think that somewhere in the BW owner's manual it says that if you intend to leave the boat on he water for more then 24 hrs, it should be bottom painted - that's why I wanted some input.
Feejer posted 03-27-2008 06:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
If your really thinking about buying the boat spend the 200 dollars and have a marine surveyor look at the boat.
lakeman posted 03-27-2008 09:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for lakeman  Send Email to lakeman     
I can tell you that leaving a boat in the water any where fresh or salt can have serious effects, sometimes even with bottom paint. I can tell you that the clear fresh water lake I live on does more damage or problems to my boat after 2 weeks in the water than most salt water areas. Do as Feejer says pay some one to survey the boat and go from there.
alfred posted 03-27-2008 04:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
Thanks for all the responses.
srec1 posted 03-27-2008 07:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for srec1  Send Email to srec1     
I have a 1967 nauset that spends 3 months a year moored in an inland lake in michigan. I take it out, scrub off the algae, and we are good for the next yeqr.
Feejer posted 03-27-2008 08:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
So Alfred, what are you going to do?
alfred posted 03-28-2008 03:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
Have passed on it and will pick up a new 2007 190 Outrage. Checking now to see if the motor is Gen 1 or 2. I think that it will be Gen 1. Is it worth getting an 08 for the Gen2?
alfred posted 03-28-2008 03:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
My 18 Outrage will be up for sale when the new tub arrives!
JoeyP posted 03-29-2008 09:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
alfred,
I am opting for an 08 instead of a leftover 07. The difference in price just wasn't a game breaker. I also wouldn't mind having a Gen II Verado, which to my undrstanding is not available on any 07's.
alfred posted 03-30-2008 04:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
Joey - What are they asking for 07s and 08s? I have a hard time as I am doing this long distance and will not get to see the boat before purchase!

Have narrowed it down to 4 boats but the sellers kinda of have the advantage as I do not know what the real market value is like. I put up a post trying to get some advise and info and I am surprised that no one responded. Sigh!

JoeyP posted 03-30-2008 09:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
Alfred:

The 2007 was about 37K. You can order an 08 for 39K
(150 verado). What prices are you getting?

alfred posted 03-31-2008 05:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
Have come across a few dealer demo units with between 10-40 hrs on them for around 33-35K.
JoeyP posted 03-31-2008 02:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeyP  Send Email to JoeyP     
Dealer demo units.......wow, I didn't know they even existed. Is that a boat that BW is floating on the floor plan or a deal that went bad. I did find a 2006 190 new at a dealer this winter that was of a result of a deal that went bad. He was selling it for about 32K. It had a 135 Optimax.....no thanks.
alfred posted 03-31-2008 06:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for alfred  Send Email to alfred     
I am not in the US so I take it that the demo boats are boats that dealers use to give potential buyers a sea trail? I intend to confirm this when I speak to them again.

I hope some of the more experienced folks can help with more info.

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