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New 205 Conquest
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posted 05-01-2008 05:28 PM ET (US)
I'll post a review after I get her dirty; for now she is clean and at my dock. A big thank you to Ed McCarthy at McCarthy's Marine in Brielle. He couldn't have made it any easier, and he is still going above and beyond to get me rebated and warranties etc. He is a swell guy. And thanks to Janis at Magic Brush for the graphics.
I love this weather curtain set, and how rigid the bimini is.
posted 05-01-2008 05:53 PM ET (US)
Great looking boat Sal. Good luck!
posted 05-01-2008 06:23 PM ET (US)
Great boat, nice mooring.
I’m green, don’t get to look at my Outrage 210 till Saturday.
Interestingly your swim platform/boarding ladder is almost a mirror image of the 210’s, that’s got me thinking.
|Casco Bay Outrage||
posted 05-01-2008 07:06 PM ET (US)
Would love to see more photos and look forward to the review.
C B O
posted 05-01-2008 07:37 PM ET (US)
posted 05-01-2008 08:12 PM ET (US)
Nice ride Sal .......
posted 05-01-2008 08:17 PM ET (US)
Thanks guys. I'll take more pictures on Saturday. I should also thank Ed (liteamorn), who gave me very keen input on this boat.
Glen, the DTS was just a term to me before today. Unreal.
posted 05-01-2008 08:54 PM ET (US)
SAL! Congrates to you on your new "Mary Alice" Shouldn't that be the Mary Alice II, or III or IV??? Are you allowed to rename her with out adding the II or III or whatever?
To funny, you change boats like some people change underware! You know I'm funning with you.
I wish you a wonderful boating experience with your new Whaler and I hope you and yours have many years of fun on her:)
My BESt, Henry AKA THE YIDDIL
posted 05-01-2008 09:00 PM ET (US)
Nice looking Whaler. Let us know the fuel consumption when you learn it.
posted 05-01-2008 10:36 PM ET (US)
Great looking boat - love the graphics!
posted 05-02-2008 02:36 AM ET (US)
Great looking Whaler Sal! Congratulations!
I didn't know you had bought a new Whaler. What a pleasant surprise. I guess I don't have the time to read many of the articles here anymore.
Your setup is exactly what I am planning on buying some time in the future. Looks great.
Good luck and safe sailing for you and your family.
posted 05-02-2008 03:28 AM ET (US)
Congratulations Sal, she looks great. I'd love to see pictures of the inside of the cabin.
Please post some performance numbers too when you get a chance.
posted 05-02-2008 08:29 AM ET (US)
Congrats, Sal. I love the graphics, which I hope to see in person on the bay this season. You can't blend in with those Parkers at Tices anymore.
posted 05-02-2008 01:05 PM ET (US)
Congrats and good luck with her Sal. Hope to see you out there this year.
posted 05-02-2008 01:33 PM ET (US)
She's a beauty! They did a nice upgrade to the seats,it looks like they second as leaning posts. I wish you years of luck, perhaps we'll meet up on the briney some day.
posted 05-02-2008 02:24 PM ET (US)
Sal, great looking Eastport...I mean Conquest (I'm partial to the old-style names). The 205 is one of my favorite post-classic Whalers, and as always, yours is a very sharp looking specimen. I'm looking forward to seeing your review of the boat and motor.
posted 05-02-2008 03:00 PM ET (US)
SSSSWWWWEEEEEEEEEETTTT - Congrats
posted 05-02-2008 06:32 PM ET (US)
Congratulations on your purchase. I am jealous.
I spent quite a bit of time speaking with Ed at the NY Boat Show earlier this year. I thought him to be a gentlemen. I am glad to hear of your positive experience with him and his dealership.
Perhaps we'll see you on the ater one day.
posted 05-02-2008 09:27 PM ET (US)
Congrats Sal !!
Can you tell us what kind of deal you got on her?
posted 05-02-2008 10:50 PM ET (US)
posted 05-02-2008 11:57 PM ET (US)
Looks great Sal!
Your kids will love the cuddy.
Will you stay with the blue and black or trade for the blue and grey? ;)
posted 05-03-2008 06:16 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the congrats everyone; I will be on her later today and give some more feedback.
I will say that regarding the deal, I am sure I didn't dicker as much as I should have or could have. Ed was a pleasure to deal with, and that had something to do with it I am sure. To give an idea of Ed's nature, he called me and told me that as the boat was a leftover and sitting for a while, he stripped a lot of deck caulking and put fresh caulk. Now that is just dang cool. He didn't have to go that far. He also delivered the boat to my dock by water. He also gave me a sweet deal on my trade-in. So, all in all, its hard to parse out the elements of the price I paid, and give out useful feedback, except that I am happy. Email me ridgerunner, and I will give you more details. One last item regarding this purchase. I did not want to alienate the dealer, knowing full well I had a black bomb on the back (kidding!)
Ken, I have enough grey now; I'll try this black magic.
posted 05-03-2008 10:19 AM ET (US)
Sal - The Mary Alice is a beauty! I wish you the best of luck with her.
posted 05-03-2008 02:12 PM ET (US)
Sal, today was a great day for sea-trialing out there.
I managed 4 blues on a foggy, windswept Barnegat Bay. Deserted out there today.
posted 05-03-2008 08:31 PM ET (US)
I really like those storage units/extra seats that the helm chairs are mounted on. I'd like something similar for my 25-Revenge. keep us posted on how you like them.
posted 05-04-2008 11:06 PM ET (US)
Congrats. I like your seats.
I have the 205 Eastport with a 200 optimax. It's a good rig. Enjoy!
looks like you may have added trim tabs.
Let me know how you enjoy the the new boat.
posted 05-07-2008 10:44 AM ET (US)
Sal, I am really looking forward to your evaluation. I have decided that the 205 may soon be my next boat and want to hear an evaluation of how it performs; how seaworthy it is, is it a stable fishing platform, ease of launching and retrieving, and any other pertinent observations that you make. I read your comments about the stability of the bimini, but I want to go with a t-top on my next boat which is not offerred with the 205 pkg. I cannot locate a wood diagram, but if you have one, does it indicate that there are pads/reinforcement to install an aftermarket t-top ? Thanks.
|L H G||
posted 05-07-2008 04:47 PM ET (US)
Forget the Whaler - I want to know how the 175 Verado compares to your previous Yamaha 150 FourStroke (if there is any comparison at all)!
posted 05-07-2008 07:07 PM ET (US)
I bought my little whaler from Ed last year - the group at McCarthy's is pretty colorful and they really know their stuff. I was looking at your boat in the yard last fall and seeing it now with the curtains is quite remarkable - it's stunning! Good luck and I'll give a shout your way if I see the Mary Alice out and about.
posted 05-07-2008 07:40 PM ET (US)
David, Tom, others...
Thanks for the well wishes. I am quite excited about this boat. A few points I'd like to mention.
1) The seats are comfortable and extremely well designed in terms of their ability to act as a leaning post. The foot rests are also well designed. You appreciate it coming from a lesser designed helm space.
2) LHG The Verado is a little more quiet than my Yamaha F150's. The horsepower increase is not noticeable really; I am sure the Conquest with the 200 Optimax has 5mph plus on my boat. It is much more smooth however. My F150's clunked into and out of gear. This Verado clicks in effortlessly. My F150 was clumsy in adjusting acceleration in small increments. The Verado is smooth and precise. The DTS is remarkable. Now, will it be as error free and reliable as the F150? I sure hope so. I would gladly trade MPG's for the Verado smoothness if in fact it is reliable. And I have no reason to think it won't be aside from a prior irrational bias against Mercury.
3) David I think you can get a hardtop by a custom fabricator. There are a few reinforced areas on the diagram. I can scan it for you if you like. A hardtop would give you the ability to have a rocket launcher on its back, and a place to put a radar dome. But that would come at a cost. You had better get the 200hp Verado if you add that weight and air drag, and maybe bigger tabs as well. The flexibility of the well designed and firm bimini is pretty cool; consider it in person. Besides all electronics mounts are getting smaller and more advanced; you might find a neat place for them without a hardtop.
4) This is a big 20 footer. I think it would fish three big men in the cockpit comfortably, and one up front. I felt like I had all the amenities and usable space of my Parker 2520 (well not quite... the Parker's deck was a dance floor), more refinement, and the ease of handling of my old Nantucket. I can't wait till Sunday, when I'll get out on her again.
posted 05-08-2008 12:07 AM ET (US)
The deck is a great fishing platform. I can comfortably take three of four guys trolling on Lake Michigan. I usually bring one deck folding chair for seating (aft seats are not very comfortable)
The 200 optimax is a good performer but fairly loud.
posted 05-08-2008 02:06 AM ET (US)
Sal, if only Boston Whaler would make a 20-25fter with an enclosed wheelhouse like the Parkers. It could extend my season in the cold north a month.But on the nice summer days the 205 will be way better than the Parker. Always trade off`s I guess.
posted 05-14-2008 11:11 PM ET (US)
Whaler just came out with a "move'em out rebate" they have $4,000 on the Conquest 205. Just an FYI if you didn't get it.
posted 05-15-2008 12:12 AM ET (US)
Thanks Ridge Runner.
posted 05-18-2008 11:27 PM ET (US)
I have the Eastport 205 (same as the Conquest 205).
I am considering the optional helm station cover. Did you buy this canvas?
I wonder if it covers the eletronics/wheel or it it also covers the seats.
posted 05-19-2008 01:05 PM ET (US)
David, I believe Whaler charges $900 for that cover. I'm sure you can get a much better price from a reputable canvas man. The only thing is he would need your boat to fit it.
posted 05-20-2008 12:49 AM ET (US)
I noticed the price on their website and had the same thought.
I might get a price to have one made. There is a local canvas company hungry for business. It may not take that long to get it done and it might be far less hassle than than the cockpit cover.
The option is to leave the bimini and the curtain set up to protect the console from dirt/rain and some sun.
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